Sorry----this is not about the Grateful Dead Band----and only “loosely” about Jack & Jill in the shower----and certainly not about them being in the shower together.

     Once again I am going to venture into the never ending world of water heaters. 

     Put on your seat belt for this one Barbara Duncan, this is perhaps the most difficult thing I have ever had to explain to people about water heaters.

     Water Heater “DEADBAND”

     The question varies, but it usually goes something like this.  Jill asks, “How come some times there seems to be plenty of hot water for both me and Jack to take showers----and other times there is not?”  

     Well Jill, it is probably due to “deadband.”  While deadband can be an issue with gas water heaters it is very common with electric water heaters.  You see, the thermostat on your water heater has a range at which it turns itself off and turns itself on (Jill could not help but think about how this might apply to her and Jack in other more interesting ways).  It is this “range” that causes the problem (how true, how true, thinks Jill).  Some water heaters are worse than others (DEFINITELY true, thinks Jill). 

     Let’s say that Jill starts out with a fully heated water heater at 120 degrees Fahrenheit.  She takes a nice leisurely, relaxing shower and uses most of the hot water----but not quite enough to get to the low point of the thermostat to make it kick back on to heat more water.  Now Jack comes along an hour later (after the lazy butt sleeps in)---all set to take a nice long hot shower (Jill is thinking cold shower)----only to run out of hot water as the thermostat finally kicks in to heat more water.

     To simplify things, I have drawn a little graph to help visualize the basic concept. 

Water Heater Deadband

     So what is the solution?  There really isn’t one that doesn’t involve keeping the heater at higher than safe, recommended temperatures (120 degrees Fahrenheit). 

     Keeping the heater at higher temperatures (so that there is more water to dilute) also means that the thermostat’s low range is always going to be higher than what is a satisfactory temperature for a nice long shower.  Installing tanks with more storage capacity is another solution as well. 

     Perhaps the best solution would be to install what is called a “tempering valve.”  This is a clever device that allows you to have the water heater set at say 130 degrees Fahrenheit and mixes a little cold water into the stream whenever you use hot water so that you don’t ever get more than 120 degree water out of your faucets.  This also protects the heater from the growth of bacteria in the tank that is encouraged by 120 degree water.    

     Sounds like Jack will be in plenty of hot water now.

     Now you can crank up the other Dead Band when you are in the shower----with or without your sweetie.

Charles Buell

 

 

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24 Comments on Jack & Jill----Singing along in the shower----to the Dead Band

NOV
11

This sounds like the dead zone.  The second one taking the showere is going to want to kill the first for using all of the hot water. 

11:00am • #1
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Charles - I don't know anyone who could make this stuff interesting besides you, my man.  Impressive.  The tempering valve sounds like a nice solution that will help avoid any "unnecessary" cold showers.

11:15am • #2
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Theodora, it happens all across America every day:)

Jason---yup---always good to avoid the cold showers:)

11:43am • #3
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In the land of 110 degrees, the ground warms the water enough to avoid a cold shower. But try washing clothes on cold. Ain't happening.

Kate www.weather-r-us.gov

12:19pm • #4
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Hi Charlie,

How about if people get those dime machines that regulated showers in the parks--it sure makes folks hurry up!

12:41pm • #5
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Kate, that is an interesting dilemma that we don't think about here---for sure

Leslie---that would work:)

12:55pm • #6
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Another great post by our friendly Inspector Charlie!!!  Thanks Charlie.

4:13pm • #8
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I must have my husband read this, he is into the hour shower.  I am always the last one in and the quickest to get out!  Very informative, thanks:)

5:14pm • #10
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Dear Mr Charles,

I am thinking that maybe your DeadBand could open for my when I play the Blue Moon in Seattle next week. My career is now very hot. I never knewed that making money would be so sinful.

Wheatloaf Wallenda, cousin to Nutsy S. Wallenda

9:08pm • #12
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Wheatloaf, when you do get to Seattle how often DO you get mooned?

9:10pm • #13
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Reminds me of a bumper sticked I read once:  Conserve Water:  Shower With a Friend

 

9:33pm • #14
NOV
12

Dang nabbit, Charles!  Just learned something new. Again. 

Thanks!

12:18am • #16
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Paul, thanks----it is an interesting phenomenon

8:30am • #17
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Mr Charles,

Please do not be mean to cousin Wheatloaf. You would love his music.

Nutsy

8:48am • #18
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I love the Dead Band...the musicians not the water heater. I have a tankless coil from the boiler with a very necessary tempering valve. I never run out of hot water.

9:48am • #19
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Charlie - I love a man who doesn't mind that he has to take an occasional cold shower.  

1:08pm • #20
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Nutsy----if he could sing

James---those always do the trick

Carol---comes with the territory:)

1:15pm • #21
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And here I thought the dead band keeps the water heater from falling over during earthquakes...

6:05pm • #22
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Jay, me thinks your "head-band" might be a little too tight:)

6:07pm • #23
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Great information Charles.  I had never heard of this.

9:25pm • #24
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Reuben, if you google it---there is more good info out there.

9:30pm • #25

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