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An Angry Consumer is a Formidable Opponent

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Real Estate Agent with Integrity Real Estate

I received an email recently from a woman who had read my Active Rain posts.  From her message, I gleaned that a lender had taken advantage of her during a refinance transaction.  I receive similar emails fairly often, but somehow this one was different.   The lady's name is Paula and she wasn't looking for an elixir to somehow solve a serious problem.  She had already taken a stand and had decided to make a difference.  Paula had written to tell me about her newly launched web-site. 

That's right, a site hosted by an angry consumer who is fighting back.

Before reading more, consider these points:

  • Consumers are intelligent.
  • Many consumers are tech savvy or know someone that is.
  • Consumers have the ability to educate themselves on-line.
  • We can expect to see blogs hosted by people who are angry at their real estate agent, loan officer, etc.
  • Consumers will mention names on their sites.
  • SEO can be used against real estate professionals.

Will blogs hosted by BITTER CONSUMERS compete against REAL ESTATE BLOGS  in google searches?  

 

What happened to  Paula?

Paula's home is in Baltimore's northern outskirts not far from my own.  She refinanced last year with an out-of-state lender.  Her closing, or signing rather, was conducted in her home by a mobile notary.  I'm not sure why Paula questioned the terms of her loan after it's consummation, but she did.  Paula learned that the value used for her refinance had been grossly inflated.  

As is often the case, she has been unable to obtain a copy of the appraisal even though she had paid for it.  Maryland statute clearly requires a lender to provide a copy of an appraisal upon the request of the borrower.

Paula also learned that an undisclosed Yield Spread Premium of mammoth proportion had been charged.  I won't elaborate on her specific YSP since it was discussed on the phone, but will tell you that I often see settlement sheets with YSP's equaling $20,000 or more.  Last year, I meet a woman named Chris who asked that I look at her loan documents the day before closing.  Her settlement sheet reflected a YSP of nearly $30,000.   Additionally, the lender was charging  $9,000 in points and fees.  Chris, had impeccable credit and an LTV that would make most people envious.   She settled a week later with a different lender, reasonable broker fees, a much lower interest rate, and no YSP.

Now, back to Paula's story.  It turns out that the mobile notary worked for a company that was owned by a title insurer.  Most people don't realize that there are only five sources of title insurance left in this country.  Paula had been overcharged by nearly $1,000 for recordation fees by a national title insurer who was non-responsive to her repeated requests for reimbursement.  She eventually received the money back, but it cost her considerable time and effort.

A consumer advocacy site hosted by an intelligent and concerned consumer

I'm simply amazed at the size and scope of Paula's web-site.  It's not a blog, but I noticed that new information is added frequently making it blog-like.  It's a virtual information center for disgruntled real estate consumers from across the nation.  Paula designed the site herself based on her own experiences and very comprehensive research. 

Through the power of the internet, Paula has become a veritable expert on the mechanics of a real estate transaction. 

A consumer wouldn't have been able to accrue so much information five years ago. 

There's one more thing that I eluded to earlier .  Paula mentions names on her site.  She's not worried about defamation suits because she's telling the truth.  You can't sue someone for telling the truth.

Paula's site, Lender Liability Law, is worth visiting.

Comments (36)

Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Carol

You're very welcome.  I'm glad you liked the post. 

Jun 28, 2007 12:29 PM
Cheryl Johnson
Highland Park, CA
Wow.  She really did do her homework.  I am forwarding this link to a few of my lender firends.
Jun 28, 2007 01:47 PM
Bob Carney
Taylor-Made Deep Creek Vacations & Sales - Mc Henry, MD
Licensed MD/PA Real Estate Agent
Go Paula, Its your birthday...Man, she has some information going on in there...I am glad I didn't pee in her conn flakes. 
Jun 28, 2007 03:20 PM
Jennifer Walker-Derby
Re/Max Westside - Marietta, GA
Real Estate Extraordinaire

Kudos to Paula.  I love it when I see someone fight back.

remember, hell hath no fury...

Jun 28, 2007 03:26 PM
Tony Gallegos
Cognicorp Mortgage Banking Advisory - Marietta, GA
Wow, she put a lot of work into gathering and putting this information together. I don't know the answer to solving this problem. Is it more legislation, maybe, but I'm very concerned it will protect a few and hurt the masses. It boils down to basic business ethics. Sounds easy, but the solution is waiting for us to resolve.
Jun 28, 2007 05:11 PM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

To everyone who responded:

Thank you.  I believe, ultimately, it's the consumer, not the regulator, that will change our industry for the better.  I suspect that we'll see a consumer blog before long that receives a great deal of traffic and attention. 

Jun 28, 2007 09:13 PM
Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent
Ed, it looks like Paula was one driven consumer.  I am amazed that she hopped behind the wheel and built a whole website.  Amazing.
Jun 28, 2007 09:59 PM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Hey Chris

This lady is far from finished.   I spoke to her at length on the phone and would describe her as pissed and just getting started.

Jun 28, 2007 10:24 PM
Susie Roscoe
Signature Realty Associates - Brandon, FL
Real Estate Specialist | Brandon, FL
Wow!!  This woman is angry...educated...and on a mission!  I only hope she's as positive about the great service she receives when it comes her way. 
Jun 29, 2007 01:45 AM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Susie 

A great point to consider.  Thanks. 

Jun 29, 2007 02:14 AM
Debi Braulik
www.roundrealestate.com - Maple Valley, WA
Selling Maple Valley to Fife WA Homes For Sale
That looks like quite the site. I had only a few moments to look it over, but all I can say is good for her. And consumers everywhere.  I too am amazed she turned her anger and frustration into a website, but she has a good voice and I am sure she will go far to educate consumers.
Jun 29, 2007 06:20 AM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Debi

I suspect that we're going to hear a whole lot more from the consumer before long. 

Jun 29, 2007 06:22 AM
Fran Gatti
RE/MAX Integrity - Medford, OR
Managing Principal Broker - RE/MAX Integrity

Ed,

Thanks for the education.  I read up on YSP in wikipedia.  It was very interesting and enlightening.  You can never have too much knowledge in this business.

Fran

Jun 29, 2007 12:28 PM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Fran

The Wikipedia explanation of YSP is outstanding.  I'm glad that you found this post helpful. 

Jun 29, 2007 12:34 PM
Jeff R. Geoghan
Coldwell Banker Realty - Lancaster, PA
REALTOR, Marketing Manager
Thanks for this post, Ed.  I'm forwarding it to my lender partners to check out.  There is a lot of good info and real-world stuff there.
Jun 30, 2007 05:10 PM
John Occhi
AZ Veteran Notary Services - Marana, AZ
Mobile Notary Public/Certified Loan Signing Agent

Ed, great post.  I just spent close to the last hour on Paula's site.  You are right on the money - she has taught herself everything there is to know about our industry - I'll bet she knows more than a lot of us know.

I can see her now on a speaking tour with you...Doing a city version of her website and providing links to consumers all over the country.  You know what they say, "If you want to dance, you have to pay the piper".

Thanks again,

Now Have a Blessed Day,

John Occhi, Hemet CA REALTOR
Mission Grove Realty

Jul 13, 2007 05:19 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi ED,

It's a damn shame that good people have to be taken advantage of. YSP has it's uses when dealing with "know-it-all"s and people that want everything "free."

A fair commission on an average loan is 1 or 2 per cent. Fees have to be fair also. The idea behind the HUD-1 is that borrowers will be able to see what they are charged and this will keep the prices down.

Unfortunately, most people can't or don't read the HUD-1. There are too many numbers and too many ways over-charge the unwary.

Investors (lenders) that permit over-charging by brokers/loan officers are as guilty of this travesty as the LOs.

Bill Roberts

Jul 13, 2007 04:21 PM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Jeff

You're very welcome.  I'm glad you found the post helpful 

Jul 15, 2007 08:56 AM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

John

Thank you.  Paula has impressed many with the size and scope of her site. 

Jul 15, 2007 08:58 AM
Ed Rybczynski
Integrity Real Estate - Havre de Grace, MD
Your Source for Local Real Estate

Bill

I agree, there's definitely a place for the YSP in residential financing, but it's abused far too often.  Great point about the ultimate funders contributing, in a sense, to the foul play at the retail level.  Thanks for stopping by. 

Jul 15, 2007 09:03 AM