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17 Comments on Forget Code, Bathrooms Need Fans.
Thanks Reuben! Great information....
~Deb in Cape Coral, FL
Thanks for sharing. Bathrooms really do need fans. However, many older homes do not have them.
Reuben,
I viewed a townhome and notice the exhaust fan from the downstairs bathroom vented into the living area. not exactly the best way if one had company over and everyone was in the LA!!!
Reuben,
I agree with you that bath fans are important. There are older homes here that dont' have them and you can tell the moisture just hangs out. I didn't know about the length of the duct being an issue but it seem pretty logical.
That is what the window is for. Just open it up and the moisture goes away NOT. Thanks for the info.
Reuben, so true----and crank up the heat in there too while you are showering.
Debbie - thanks for reading.
Roy - I'm trying to change all that.
Pat - What's the point? Better to have no fan at all!
Brian - I can definitely 'feel' when a house has a moisture problem right after I walk in the door sometimes. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Gene - especially not during the winter.
Charles - yeah, whatever you can do to get more moisture in the air, right?
Hi Reuben, very enlightening post. I am suprised that there is not more fans in a home to pull the moisture out.
I totally agree, a fan should be required in a bathroom. A window is useless as ventilation.
Hi Reuben,
Terrific post! Thank you for sharing the information with us!
Chris
Joyce - me too.
James - they're nice in the summer if you don't have the AC on... that's about it!
Chris - thanks for reading.
Note this comment you included; "When people take showers and baths, moisture gets pumped in to the air. During the winter, this moisture condenses on windows and walls, and often makes it's way in to the attic space through attic bypasses, where it will create frost.
What I find ironic is 90% of the homes I've inspected have the fan exhaust terminate in the attic, many times buried in a foot of insulation, instead of to the exterior. This is true with high dollar homes as well as average priced. Unable to comprehend the reason builders choose this method.
How many of you (inspectors) write this as a defect?
I do.
Christopher - you've gotta be kidding me! If the bath fan doesn't have an insulated duct that's tightly connected to a functional dampered roof cap, I write it up. What does your local building code require?
One thing that can help is to turn on the forced air furnace blower (if the thermostat is set up to do that). It won't help over all humidity in the house, but it will keep it down in the bathroom. I personlly use both. I also use the furnace blower to filter the air (use a good filter), keep air circulating and distribute heat from solar or wood heated rooms to the rest of the house.
Ralph - yes, using the furnace's blower fan will do all those things. Not very well... but it works. A device that is actually made for doing this is an HRV. I'll be writing a blog about those soon.
I turn the fan on and then go searching for them. Frequently, in homes that are 20 years old or more, the outlet has no duct and it terminates directly into the loose fill insulation. In this instance, with a homeowner performed basement remodel, it was neither mounted nor ducted.
Hank - I do the exact same thing! I start every inspection by walking through the house and turning on every fan, dryer, and anything else that removes air from the house. Then I go outside and verify they're all working as I inspect the exterior. I find a ton of what you pictured above!