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If the Home is for Sale, Please don't keep it a Secret

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Our MLS rules do not allow someone to advertise or promote another agents listing without their approval. It's a good rule because the listing agent is responsible to his/her client and needs to maintain control. But this really shouldn't prevent the listing agent from taking advantage of promotional opportunities altogether.

 

I called an agent this morning and offered to market one of his listings on my website/blog for free, and he turned me down. He said, " it's against our policy ". I asked him if it was his policy or that of the brokerage and he said " I am the broker, and that's my final word ". I called another agent asking the same question and he said send me an email with your proposal, which I did. I still haven't heard from him and his listing has been on the market for nearly two years.

Am I missing something here? Do you think these agents are acting in the best interest of their clients by not taking advantage of free marketing opportunities? Thanks to Active Rain and some consistency on my part, I have been ranking quite high on Google for properties in Kent Wa. If you were to Google Kent Wa golf course homes, I pop up on page one or two. Their listings could be on page one of Google for free and they said no.

Some of these golf course homes have been on the market for well over a year. I don't know what kind of marketing these agents are doing, but it seems to me that they may be able to use some help. If these were my listings, I would be using every method possible to get the word out. Personally I think they are doing a real disservice to their client.

Why do you think these agents turned me down. Would you take advantage of my offer for your client, or just keep the listing a secret?

 

 

JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate

We have a policy here that you have to have an agents permission to advertise a property, but I have only known one agent that will not allow others to market their listings. As for me, I could care less who wants to advertise mine, so long as they have the information correct. Free advertising is always a good thing, and if they can bring me a buyer, then great. I was already going to pay another agent for doing so. I see it as a help to me and my clients when my listings are advertised, so I love it when other agents want to do so.

Nov 17, 2009 08:17 AM
Jim Crawford
Long & Foster - Fredericksburg, VA
Jim Crawford Broker Associate Fredericksburg VA

In most states it is illegal under state license law to market the listings of another broker. It is wise for all agents to check their state's real estate license law to make sure they are in compliance.  It could cost an agent a fine, suspension or revocation of their real esate license. It may be done in inter-office of one company, but may need the brokers permission first before asking the other agent.  Also, a lot of agents in GA were advertising For Sale By Owner Properties and the state has given them warnings.  It is not allowed.  The property have to belisted by the company first. 

Nov 17, 2009 10:12 AM
Russel Ray, San Diego Business & Marketing Consultant & Photographer
Russel Ray - San Diego State University, CA

I read both comments, but contrary to what Jim says, in most states it is illegal under state license law to market the listings of another brother WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL. Try getting their approval, though. It's virtually impossible. Probably an ego thing. After all, if their selling client happened to see their home listed by their agent on your web site, what would they think? Would they even ask their agent about it, or remain silent? I suspect most would remain silent, and it's that silence that can be damaging in the long term.

Also, the selling Client might think that the agent is getting paid for letting the other agent list the property on his web site, again a problem in the long term.

I have found it interesting that there are a lot of ActiveRain members who show listings by other brokers in their blogs here. I've always wondered about that, but I'm not the ActiveRain police or the real estate police, so I just move on.

Nov 17, 2009 11:07 AM
Jane Cross
Homes By Cross serving Charlotte NC Real Estate Needs - Charlotte, NC

Greg, I would say yes to it. Our Carolina MLS has an IDX (Internet Data Exchange) agreement and as long as we credit the listing offices with the listing, we can use those feeds on our web sites, etc.

I have asked agents (in the past) whether I could put their homes in advertisements, and they have always agreed to let me do so...with my contact information on them. 

Our association says to get approval in writing from the listing agent, to make sure you cover your bases. I did this when I was with RE/MAX and Coldwell Banker.

My thoughts, the more exposure that home has, the best shot it has of more showings and an offer.

Nov 17, 2009 11:10 AM
Kathleen Cooper
Kathleen Cooper, Sposato Realty Group - Worcester, MA
Sposato Realty Group - Broker Owner

Hi Greg,

I'm not sure why they turned you down.  How would you go about advertising their listings?  Would you be giving credit to them or would it look like a home you were trying to sell or had listed and would you be using it to capture buyers?  Maybe they are hopeful that they can find their own buyers and get both sides of the deal.  Personally, I'll take whatever free advertising I can get, but I guess it depends on how you present it in your blog.

Good luck!

Sincerely,

Kathleen

Nov 17, 2009 11:18 AM
Sun City Grand Homes Surprise AZ Real Estate Leolinda Bowers Designated Broker Leolinda Realty
Leolinda Realty - Surprise, AZ
Sun City Grand in Surprise Arizona

It's a matter of disclosure.  The advertisement should provide the name of the listing brokerage.  If you do not disclose the name of the listing brokerage, you are possible in violation of Article 2 of the code of ethics.  It is also a courtesy to obtain the brokers approval.  If the broker says no, try another one.  This may be rather difficult since even within each company, the brokers allow agents in the same brokerage to market the brokerage listings only after receiving the listing agents approval.

I just don't understand your reasoning.  If a home has been listed for over a year with no success, why would you like to align yourself with such a listing?  Sellers check out the internet regularly as with buyers.  When a potential seller or buyer sees a listing on your website after seeing the same listing on another website for a year, there is an excellent chance that the seller or buyer will think that your marketing techniques are not adequate.  I would not want to risk a negative perception.

Nov 17, 2009 03:52 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Some agents may not feel it's necessary to have their listings marketed on individual sites since their listings get picked up automatically by other sites that subscribe to the IDX service. And when these listings appear, it will contain the words "courtesy of broker so and so).

It may simply be that the agents don't want to be bothered, or they don't feel inclined to try to keep track of who is marketig their listings.

But try this:

Many REOs don't bother with open house. Why not try to hold an open house for the REO agents? I know of one such agent who does this. He picks and chooses which properties to hold open (naturally, high traffic, good location, high upside potential) an has successfully picked up new buyers He may not have sold the REO itself,but he established a good relationship with the REO agents who were glad to have this kind of help. All the REO agents do, in return, is to post info n the MLS that the home will be open on such and such a date.

 

Nov 17, 2009 04:58 PM
Greg Saffell
Tucson, AZ
Real Estate Professional Tucson, Oro Valley AZ

 JL,

I feel the same way, it's all just free advertising and if it brings a buyer, then great!

Jim,

I would never even think of promoting someones listing without their approval. It's just that I wonder why some approvals are impossible to get, even when the subject property would greatly benefit by the added free exposure.

Russel,

When I have received permission and advertised another agents listing, it includes the listing agents information plainly, no subterfuge. I'm sure that ego's are involved especially with agents whose Internet presence is lacking. I am free to show another agents listing as many times as I want, to as many people as I want, so why the reticence on other promotional activities if it's in the best interest of the client. I just think this gets to be a touchy and personal issue and should be handled delicately.

Jane,

It all sounds so simple, so I don't understand all the difficulties I encounter. Unless of course their are personal jealousies involved, and that is a real possibility. I'm happy to hear that you practice your craft in a more fluid atmosphere.

Kathleen,

I'm on your side, the more exposure the better. As long as the listing agent is credited and all the pertinent information is correct, why not accept the free advertising.

Leolinda,

I would always include the proper credit and information. The only reason that I would want to promote an old listing is if I was working in a particular geographic area and wanted my name associated with that area.. This particular property was on the golf course and was one of many that I was targeting in a promotional campaign.
I'm still a little troubled on why it's so difficult to obtain authorization to market someones property, but this discourse has shown that varying opinions abound.

Pacita,

You may be right about IDX exposure but what's the harm in adding a little more. Enough about that though. I like your REO idea and it seems like a good way to meet buyers. There sure is no shortage of REO's to choose from.

 

I thank you all for your valued comments. When I posted this yesterday there wasn't much interest in the topic so I reached out to my friends for their input. Your time and thoughtful comments are very much appreciated.

Nov 18, 2009 02:43 AM