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Closing Docs 3 Days Before Closing REQUIREMENT H.R. 4229

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Mortgage and Lending with Equity Resources NMLS 67179 Licensed in NC

The Borrowers' Right to Inspect Closing Documents Act of 2009 H.R. 4229 is currently in the House Finance Committee for Review.Home Buyers Have Expectations

But it brings a HUGE question to mind:

"Are we ready to make mortgage lending so precise that we can meet 8 different disclosure dates within each transaction?"

THREE DAYS BEFORE CLOSING???  Mandatory?  Seriously?!?!

Maybe this is another job creation effort by Congress?  Most mortgage companies are so lean, that in order to meet Realtor expectations of closing in 20/30 days (or less), almost ALL mortgage companies would need to hire an extra person for every 10 transactions (IMHO)... or maybe we just need to get REALLY efficient?

I'm trying to figure out where those 3 days are going to come from!  I just made a list of places that might be spots in our office where we might be able to squeeze a few hours -but for the most part underwriting is what sucks up time.  And if you think about the fact that an underwriter can only really look at a new loan every 45 minutes to an hour - you can see why it takes a while to get through there...

I don't know how we will all change systems to adjust to this latest twist (if it passes) - but I can tell you this much about Mortgage Lending in 2009 and 2010...

Mortgage Lenders deserve an AWARD for being the most flexible industry on the PLANET!

Comments (34)

Todd & Devona Garrigus
Garrigus Real Estate - Beaumont, CA
Broker / REALTORS®

Sorry lenders, but you're a tease!!! It may not be your fault, but can we get some closings on time?!?

Dec 15, 2009 08:43 PM
Tom Burris
NMLS# 335055 - Baton Rouge, LA
Texas/Louisiana Mortgage Pro - 13 YRS Experience

I like the idea.... it forces operations dept to get docs out on time.

No matter how clean of a file I submit sometimes.... No matter how EARLY I turn it in to underwriting....I always seem to get booted to the back of the line for rush files. Makes me mad.

 

Dec 15, 2009 08:48 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

well, the Realtors can stop, if they haven't already, writing those 30 day (or less) contracts as in most cases those dates can't be met and it's getting worse.

24 hours, for hud review, is sufficient, if enforced. 

Dec 15, 2009 09:51 PM
Debbie Summers
Charles Rutenberg Realty - New Smyrna Beach, FL

It's going to mean longer times between contract and closing...  Educating sellers on the buying process will also help to keep deals together!

Dec 15, 2009 10:59 PM
Home Loan Search.Online
Home Loan Search Online - Newnan, GA

I completely agree with Terry and Debbie. We've got to educate realtors and consumers that it will take a few extra days before closing. 

Dec 16, 2009 12:10 AM
Douglas Clark
Wells Fargo Home Mortgage - New Bern, NC
Home Mortgage Consultant- NMLS #561149

In the past several years the one thing that has been consistent in the Mortgage Industry is CHANGE, and I'm sure we will see more in the months and years to come.   

Dec 16, 2009 12:28 AM
Karen Pannell
Real Living / Home Realty - Owensboro, KY
Owensboro KY Real Estate -270-903-2167 Homes, Cond

January 2010 is going to be interesting.  The new GFE's and rules regarding GFE cost disclosures are going to add to the chaos.  We'll get through it though!

kp

Dec 16, 2009 12:49 AM
Michael Regan
The Regan Team Home Loan Group - Petaluma, CA
Home Loan Extraordinaire

If this passes realtors should start thinking about writing 45 day contracts.  That way there would be plenty of time.  Getting FHA loans out in 30 days almost always is last minute because inevitably the borrowers have some issues that have to be resolved, and the lender has to wait on many other people to do their job before they can get docs out.  This is going overboard....

Dec 16, 2009 12:59 AM
Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

I want to know who's gonna retrain all the Moving Co.'s and truck rental people to become more fluid ?

Dec 16, 2009 02:37 AM
Dawn Nuzzi
'Til Dawn Real Estate - Raleigh, NC

Wow, three days does seem excessive. But if I have a buyer who wants to close in a short time frame, I double check with the lender first to make sure it's even do-able...

Dec 16, 2009 02:52 AM
Jason Potrzeba
Home Loan Investment Bank - Warwick, RI
Senior Account Executive

Respa, The Final Rule and the new Mortgage Disclosure Information Act already will provide enough delays; I don't think we need another Act to get in the way of our clients closing in a timely manner. There are so many disclosures and re disclosures these days, I don't think anyone really knows what they are signing anymore...

 

Jason

Dec 16, 2009 04:22 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Yea well who in Congress came up with that one. Obviously someone who doesn't understand the lending process.

The buyer doesn't need 3 days to review.

24 hours would be more than enough time. Justsayin'

Dec 16, 2009 04:35 AM
Jason Potrzeba
Home Loan Investment Bank - Warwick, RI
Senior Account Executive

Good news Missy, RESPA already requires that the HUD be made available within 1 business day of settlement if the borrower requests it.

Dec 16, 2009 04:45 AM
Jason Howe
Prudential Bob Yost Homesale Services - York, PA

Maybe three days is extreme but consumers need time to review these documents and we as Realtors should be glad to get them early so between us and the mortgage pros we can explain any questions or discrepancies there may be.  Will make settlements that much less stressful IMHO.

Dec 16, 2009 06:25 AM
Eleanor Thorne
Equity Resources - Cary, NC
Advantage Lending 919-649-5058

Jason is right - the borrower has the right to request to review the HUD, Note and DOT 24 hours prior to closing, but most borrowers are not aware of this requirement from RESPA... If they FORCE that to be a "standard" - I'm with Missy, that should be time enough!

Dec 16, 2009 06:45 AM
Al Murray
Prudential Ridgeway Realty - Waldorf, MD

Thanks for sharing. This might hold up a quick settlement.

Dec 16, 2009 08:15 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Is it three days before signing or three days before closing?  Here in California, it's not uncommon to have three days between docs/signing and close.  Are they looking for a recission period like on a refi?

That said, I think there's enough bureaucracy and big government in the industry already.

Dec 16, 2009 02:29 PM
Mike Jones
SUNSTREET MORTGAGE, LLC (BK-0907366, NMLS 145171) - Tucson, AZ
Mike Jones NMLS 223495

Eleanor,

Someone commented that the realtors will just have to build in an extra three days on the contract.  With the TILA requirements, that's not going to be a panacea.  Can you tell that the folks who write the law (about anything) haven't a clue as to how it works?!

Mike in Tucson

Dec 17, 2009 11:36 PM
Lee & Pamela St. Peter
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices YSU Realty: (919) 645-2522 - Raleigh, NC
Making Connections to Success in Real Estate

Congrats on the Eleanor's shiny new star!  What a topic - on one hand I'd love to see the HUD anytime prior to the morning of closing or AT the closing table.  Even invoking the right to see it 24 hours in advance for my client does no good.  I for one am tired of scurrying to get done all that we (mostly my clients) have to do prior to closing only to sit and WAIT for the package to get to the attorney's office.  It's frustrating and unnecessary.  But my question is; IF the 24 hours "rule" which we have NOW isn't being enforced what/who thinks this 3 day rule is going to happen...

Dec 18, 2009 12:29 AM
yanni raz
hml investments - Los Angeles, CA

I wanted to share some more information.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac make it harder for home buyers and real estate investors with mortgages on Condos. It's hard to really understand why these giants corporations are tightening their regulations while the government is trying to fix the economy. If you're a condo home buyer or a condo home seller you should read this article because it might change the way your realtor presents your property.

These days most real estate purchases are done by real estate investors. This is a great time for all investors to put the money they've saved in the past years in real estate, but purchasing condos is a little different animal I guess unless if you will purchase the property cash. Condos are a little different than single family residents by all means, also by the way they've getting financed by banks or the government.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have said in march that they will no longer guarantee mortgages on condos in buildings where fewer than 70 percent of the units have been sold. They've created controversy, this may drive the condos market down because they are one of the main investors in America to land money on real estate. I'm thinking how the first 70% of condos will sale if home buyers and/or real estate investors can't get a loan to purchase them.

While I'm thinking about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's new regulations and thinking about the real estate market and the economy crisis in the world I discovered another new reason why Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will not land money to new home owners: "delinquency in home owner association dues. I really don't know why it's so important that while a home buyer with a great credit comes to purchase a condo in a building that other homeowners weren't responsible enough to pay the Home owner association dues will not qualify for a mortgage.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac said they will not guarantee mortgages to condo buyers if 15% of the homeowners in the building are delinquent on the homeowner association dues.

That's what I wanted to talk about today just to give you readers some general information about the market.

Good Luck.

Dec 24, 2009 09:10 AM