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100 Comments on "Home Inspectors Are Just Placebos"
Good post Jay. I think Lenn said it best. It's hard to tell someone he is wrong when he doesn't know what he doesn't know. People are armed with so much information regarding real estate they want to come in and teach all of us something. Normally, that's when they get burned the most.
...and, NOOOOO, that Sales Lady wouldn't have any reason to talk the buyer out of a home inspection. Hum....
Wow, lots of discussion here! Not sure I have much to add that hasn't already been said, but I think it is interesting that the comsumer in your example seems to forget that the sales lady works for the builder, of course she is going to say "you don't need it"!
Gary - once on a pre-drywall inspection, the County inspector showed up and asked me what I came up with. I told him and he failed the house and left right away. Didn't even look!
Weichert - I don't know how you could define a "deficient home inspection." Every association has minimum Standard Operating Procedures, with reporting standards that they hold their members to. My report far exceeds anything any association demands. You have had some bad experiences! I do not know any home inspector who talks like that, either! An experienced home inspector, with a comprehensive report, is, in my opinion, due diligence.
Karen - I don't think lenders require private inspections to extend loans.
Richard - as you say, skill, training and experience say it all.
Robert S. - right on, right on, right on...!
Michael - you and Poor Richard say it well!
Mike - that depends on many things - report writing, the inspector's diligence, belongings in the house, how the agreement is worded - I could go on...
Sandy - if not perfect, that would be a great world! I have a blog post called A Golden Rule Business which you might like.
Tina - you are NOT alone! I had a dryer vent the other day I could not find the end to outdoors!
Thank you David!
Lyn - "spew" is a great word! And I love Blog Dog!
NUllenium - when you figure that one out please let me know...
Bill - none of the inspectors I know either! Merry Christmas to you too.
Karen - background and experience really count. Glad your guy is "real!"
Joe - hence, lots of slip between cup and lip.
Bev - I said that too! And you are so right about the sales lady.
Jason - I stuck a burr in most everyone's britches with this one, didn't I!
Jay,
I have sold a lot of new construction over the years. I always recommend the Buyer gets a home inspection on new construction and the inspector almost always finds justifiable repairs, although they are usually minimal. beyond the repairs the inspectors usually have great maintenance recommendations. You guys are well worth the money.
Jay, that's a new one for me too, placebo! And from the builders agent no less! Ahahahahaha
Paul - I had a pre-drywall once where I found such a structural defect that the buyer called the county. The county inspector condemned the house, and all the other townhouses in the development because they had the same defect! Usually mistakes repeat from house to house.
Vanessa - it was a new one for me too, and I have been doing this a long time!
Jay,
I love my home inspectors! They do a great job, are very thorough, and it's NEVER about anything petty!
Great job and great point. The building inspetors in our area are amazingly lax.
That is great to hear Kathy. See you next summer ... again?
Damon - many are here too. It is too bad, but they are not the only problem - it is the professionalism of the worker that is most suspect. I call it 7-11 construction.
Hey Jay,
Just the other day I got into a disagreement with a friend of mine who is a licensed electrician. He states that home inspectors are not qualified to comment on anything related to his field. There are many people in the building industry who feel the same way. They need to get use to us, we're here to stay!
But we are Eric, as generalists! Fer sher...
Jay - I knew knew knew it was going to be the saleslady / salesman in a builders office! I've heard people in that occupation make the same claims many times!
One of the funniest experiences for me was when I found a kitchen fan that was missing the vent cap on the roof (the hole had been cut in the sheathing, so the shingles lifted up when the fan was turned on), a bath fan with a stuck internal damper, improper circuit breaker size for the AC, improperly installed siding, and many other defects.
We went back to the builders office to return the keys after the inspection, and watching the furious buyers call out the salesperson in the office for telling them they didn't need a home inspection was absolutely priceless.
I wonder if the word Warranty came up in the discussion between the buyer, the sales lady and the builder? That could have been a key variable in the purchaser's decision making process.
Definition of Warranty: "A guarantee given to the purchaser by a company stating that a product is reliable and free from known defects and that the seller will, without charge, repair or replace defective parts within a given time limit and under certain conditions."
The problem is, without proper training and experience, would the purchaser have the skills to recognize those defects that existed at the time of construction, and that could later develop within the warranty period?
It is priceless Reuben! Gee, how did you know it was the sales lady?? And you are right, there are things that come up, sometimes not insignificant... Just the image of blowing shingles made me laugh!
Hank - typically the builders offer a 2/10 year warranty on the installation(s) and structure. Some are offering less than that now. A purchaser would NOT have those skills, typically. Some might, but I don't think this guy did!
I respect Eric's resolve in his statement that they need to get used to us. As long as we are accurate in what is called out, there's no reason to be bullied into stepping aside. A code reference to refer to substantiate the report in many instances is invaluable.
Agreed Hank! I know I am a part of the process around here and I suspect you and Eric think so too in your areas. The code sometimes isn't much help... Here's my blog earlier in the month:
http://activerain.com/blogsview/1364087/unthinking-installation
That apparently was to code!
Jay, This is great. Thanks for sharing. I do have to say there are some in our industry that are basically placebos.
Perhaps, Don, but for the buyer to take the sales lady's word for this is amazing!
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