In case you missed it, Ken Harney had a great article in the Washington Post at the end of September and anybody in the Real Estate Industry, especially mortgage professionals need to take note of what is coming down the pipe.

Starting last week, it just got a lot more difficult for borrowers to lie about their income on their mortgage applications.  The Internal Revenue Service has announced that it is overhauling a key income verification tool used by lenders.  It is now going to be much easier to pull up electronically a borrower’s confidential income tax information.  This new process will revolutionize and replace the current process that most lenders use to verify income, the IRS Form 4506-T. 

Most Lenders currently require a borrower to sign a form 4506-T at application and at closing.  This form allows the lender to request a copy of an applicant’s Income Tax Transcripts, in order to compare them to what is submitted at application.  In practice though, this process takes so long that most lenders don’t use it for anything more than auditing and quality control on their inventory of closed loans.

The new electronic process though will be quick, easy and affordable for lenders to get borrower’s income information from the IRS.  What used to take weeks, can now be obtained in as little as 2 days.

In the past the biggest problem facing the mortgage industry might have been predatory lending, but currently rampant mortgage fraud has dwarfed any other issues in the industry.  You can’t even open a newspaper or turn on the television without hearing about another case of fraud, and these are only the few that get crooks who get caught.  It is a problem from the top of the industry to the bottom.  Earlier this week, the Detroit News reported about a multi-million dollar fraud scheme that rocked Fifth Third Bank in some of Michigan’s priciest neighborhoods.  Banks are constantly changing their processes to help curb fraudulent behavior before it happens.

One of the most popular mortgage products these days is a loan known as a “stated income loan.”  When used properly, these loans can help a self-employed borrower or borrower with another unique situation qualify for a loan, but when used improperly, these loans encourage low or moderate income borrowers who live on a fixed hourly or salary wage to “lie” about their income in-order to afford a loan.  Many industry critics (I count myself in this group) have long urged that these “liars-loans” are the most significant factor to the current rise in foreclosures.

The FBI warns that mortgage application fraud is a multi-billion-dollar-a-year problem and falsified income tax filing, W-2s and pay stubs are a contributing factor.  The new electronic verification system could be huge in spotting and preventing mortgage fraud up-front.  But until lenders end or severely limit the process of stated income loans (read blatantly lying in order to get a loan) then we are still far away from fixing the growing mortgage problem in this country.

 

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I wonder if this will affect the no income no asset verification mortgage.
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Great post Josh, but I would tend to think it will not change much in the moretgage industry for a little while.

Right now, mortgage fraud is definitely getting worse.  I follow Identity Theft and Mortgage Fraud fairly closely.  The reality is that most Stated Income loans (at least the vast majority of the ones I do) are by viable people, typically owning small businesses who can easily pay the mortgage, but get very aggressive in their tax deductions.  I fall into this category.

The problem with full doc loans on these types of people are when it comes to the tax returns, it looks like they can't survive or don't make enough money.  The reality is different though.  These are the people the loans were designed for.

Yes, there needs to be some sort of controls in place to minimize mortgage fraud.  Yes, there are some people who abuse the system.  But eliminating it will not be the solution and it has to be done in a way that protects those who don't lie and need it.

8:34am • #8
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Great information!  But in my opinion it is a dual edged sword.  Too Much private information is out there now and all too frequently under educated "Professionals" make decisions based on inaccurate interpretations which if they would have taken the time to clarify an issue would have resulted in no problem.

Stated Loans likewise are a dual edged sword.  Good people who make good income independent of an institution have found this to be a grand tool.  But the sleazy folks who are out to make a quick buck, pull one over on someone have also found it to be a great tool for fraud.  So the governments typical knee jerk REACTION is to restrict the activity.  Thereby penalizing the many for the actions of the few.  To me the logic of that type of action is counter productive and lacks action to benefit the many.  The course I would suggest is to aggressively punish all offenders, giving them no way to skirt their just deserts but the hardway... No plea bargains ... no parole.... just real long time and restitution through assest liquidation and confication.  I know that sounds extreme but having practiced as a Clinical Behavioral Psychologist for many years prior to getting into Real Estate I can assure you consequences drive all behavior whether they be negative or positive.  And in these instances strong consequences need to be required.

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Excellent post and on point.  We had a Buyer recently who was "qualified" by the Builders lender for a loan based on "stated" income, which would have put their payment too high.  They declined to "lie" on the application.  The builder tap danced for a couple of weeks, then grudgingly agreed to return the earnest money.
9:39am • #10
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Wow, Amazing what is coming down the pipes. We can all contruibute this information to computers making our lives easier

10:31am • #11
I happened to have missed this article.  Thanks for the post Josh. 
11:33am • #12
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I will be interested to see how many 4536's get signed at loan app.
11:40am • #13
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I am already seeing this a couple of lenders have changed their stated income gudielines. 
12:04pm • #14
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I am already seeing this a couple of lenders have changed their stated income gudielines. 
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Of course when I am talking about the evils of stated income loans....I am refering to W-2 stated, or stated income for people on fixed income like retirement and SSI.

Stated Income loans are great for what they were intended for.   somebody who pays all their bills, but is self employed and cant show income on their tax returns,

Somebody who has two jobs, but only a 2 year history for one of them.

Somebody who works in a predominantly cash business like waitress, hair-dresser or bartender

or somebody who might have a spouse that will be contributing income, but can't qualify credit-wise.

It is only a problem when you make a certain salary, its right there, you don't make more than that, but a dirty loan officer convinces you to lie in order to qualify for a home you can't afford anyway!

2:10pm • #16
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It concerns me that the FBI is getting involved.  Big Brother is always watching. 

It is very imporst to ensure, for our customers, that the 4506 is completed in it's entirety

2:28pm • #17
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I'm happy to hear the FBI is getting involved in enforcing laws on the books.  Just imagine what it would be like without enforcement.
3:13pm • #18

Great Post!  I think this is a good thing for those of us that are using the programs the way they were intended to be used.  I have see lenders rolling out more No Income No Asset programs lately.  It seems if the borrower qualifies for a loan that doesn't require income documentation and they are your everyday W-2 employee these are a legitimate alternative.  This seems to be a hot topic in the mortgage industry lately and many lo's are concerned about the effects.  Some fear they will not be able to qualify borrowers without stating income.  I think it's important to bear in mind that as mortgage professionals we aren't doing borrowers a favor by putting them into a payment they can't afford.  It's just too bad that there are people in our industry that take actions which require this kind of a watchful eye.  Great post!

4:42pm • #19
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Solid post Josh!  In the middle of a post (actually 2) re: Stated Loans.  The new 4506 is a solid step in eliminating False Stated Income loans.  Riddle me this...How can a lender warrant a loan to a 'Stated Wage Earner'?  
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Good one Josh - Things do get stretched a BIT to far sometimes.......
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Josh...great post.  Just go No Doc..... lol  Yes, this has been a problem. And I have even lost a few deals because the other loan officer was taking it to the next level. Yes, fraud....but to me, it's not worth it for such a little price. When the bigger picture could cost more than what I made on that loan and possibly jail time....

 

 

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Jeff you forgot to mention going no ratio lol

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