Ar_home_b_search
 

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "BAD HOME INSPECTION".

HOME INSPECTIONS ARE IMPORTANT FOR HOME BUYERS, HOME SELLERS, LISTING AGENTS AND BUYERS' Home InspectorAGENTS. 

THE HOUSE WILL BE UNDER A MAGNIFYING GLASS.  A good home inspection means that the home inspector examines every "nook and cranny" in a house and tests all systems and components. 

A HOME INSPECTION IS USUALLY A CONTINGENCY ON THE CONTRACT.  If the home inspector discovers and documents serious structural, systems, etc. defects, the seller is usually given an opportunity to cure or the buyer can void the contract.  If the home inspection finds the home in good condition with no structural or system defects, the contingency will expire or the buyer will remove it. 

HOME BUYERS BENEFIT FROM A HOME INSPECTION by learning about the condition of the various components of the house from the top to the bottom and all features included in the structure and grounds. 

HOME SELLERS BENEFIT FROM A HOME INSPECTION when unknown defects are discovered and not passed on to an unawares buyer.

LISTING AGENTS BENEFIT FROM A HOME INSPECTION by avoiding the risk of not knowing of a significant financial, health or safety defect that would affect the buyers before, during and after closing. 

BUYERS' AGENTS BENEFIT FROM A HOME INSPECTION by making sure that defects are discovered and the seller given an opportunity to cure or the buyer isn't forced to accept the property with significant financial, health or safety defects. 

DON'T BECOME A DEFENDANT.  Home inspections provide risk reduction for real estate agents.  Many lawsuits involving buyers and sellers are related to property defects discovered after closing.  When buyers litigate property condition and lack of disclosure of defects, the agents are usually included in the litigation as a defendant.

FAR TO MANY SELLERS BELIEVE THAT "IF THIS HOUSE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU".  Sellers also too often believe that the house has no defects unless the buyer finds them.  Giving some sellers the benefit of the doubt in that they have delayed maintenance to systems, roofs, appliances, etc. for so long, they fail to realize that most contracts require that the house be sound and the systems operate normally. 

FAR TO MANY BUYERS BELIEVE THAT, IF A DEFECT IS FOUND, THAT THE SELLER MUST MAKE A REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.  Not so.  The buyer can inspect.  The seller and agree or refuse to repair.  If the seller doesn't repair serious defects, the buyer doesn't have to take the property. 

NOTE.  If a material defect is discovered, the seller and their agent may, by law, be required to disclose that defect to future buyers. 

EXAMPLES OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE

(1)  An air conditioning system that will not cool a house below 85 degrees is not "operating properly" although the system is running and probably running and running.

(2)  A roof that has three layers, is missing tiles and leaks on rainy, windy days is not "operating properly" although it may not always leak. 

(3)  A basement foundation that is only wet on rainy days is not "operating properly" although it may be dry when the buyers toured the home. 

(4) A furnace is not "operating properly" if the filter has not been changed for the past 4 years.  The strain on the furnace has caused it to lose significant life and merely replacing the filter doesn't provide better functionality for the motor.

WHAT DID THE SELLER DISCLOSE??

Defects (1) through (3) above are simple to address.  Red Flags

     (1) The mere "servicing" of such a system is not adequate because the wear and tear on the system by overworking it while it is not operating properly has caused the system to lose value.  Did the seller disclose to prospective buyers that they have not had the 20 year old air conditioning serviced for 11 years. 

Tip:  If a seller is using several fans in the property on warm days, this is a RED FLAG.

    (2)  A roof that is not leaking when the home is inspected is a difficult matter to address in a home inspection notice of defects.  Although the missing tiles may be replaced, that doesn't make the roof newer or remove the old roofs. 

Tip:  When a roof clearly is beyond the useful life, condition the Contract of Sale on the seller replacing the room prior to settlement.  New roofs are often difficult to negotiate in a repair addendum.  It's often better to simply make a new roof a condition of the contract unless, of course, the house is a good buy and the buyer is financially prepared to replace the roof following settlement.  Tiles of several different colors, curled and swollen tiles should be a RED FLAG.

     (3)  Sellers may disclose that the house has water penetration on rainy days, but rarely disclose the degree.  Sellers also do not usually disclose structural defects that would cause water penetration because they may not understand the cause.  Since much water penetration is caused by poor grading of the grounds surrounding the house, trying to address the cure for a wet basement may be difficult. 

Tip:  Home owners with empty basements, stored items on shelving, or "high water marks" on the basement walls, or freshly whitewashed basements may be a clue that water penetration has been a problem.  A "high water mark" is always a RED FLAG.

DEFECT (4)is more difficult, but a serious defect nonetheless.  Unless a buyer is prepared to replace a heating system following settlement, when the home inspectors documents that the heating unit needs "servicing", it's a good idea to determine if the unit has been properly serviced in the past. 

Tip:  No service tags, dirty or missing filters, cracked furnace walls, rusty inner parts, etc. should be a RED FLAG. 

Time and space doesn't permit the elaboration of other "tips to deferred maintenance" such as

Ovens whereby the "self clean" feature doesn't work.  No person should have to clean an oven in the 21st Century.  Oven/Range replacement is usually the only cure. 

Improperly wired panel boxes.  This can be a serious SAFETY HAZARD.  Write it as such and make sure that any work is done by a licensed electrician.

Loose stair railings.  VA and FHA appraisers will often cite this serious SAFETY HAZARD.

Home buyers in rural areas should always require documented well and septic permits, inspection, acceptable GPM for water and maintenance records for septic systems.  These systems are critical to the functionality of the home and expensive to repair. 

Tip:  The seller "doesn't know" when the septic tank was last pumped.  The seller "doesn't know" the GPM output for the well.  The seller "doesn't know" where the drain field is located.  All RED FLAGS.

WHAT IS A GOOD HOME INSPECTION??  IF A HOME INSPECTOR DISCOVERS ANY OF THE DEFECTS ABOVE OR OTHERS, that is a good home inspection.  It may avoid the seller being sued after settlement.  It will surely

The last thing that a seller, buyer's agent or listing agent needs is to discover a MATERIAL DEFECT after settlement. 

Tip:  If the home inspector discovers an undisclosed defect, roof, system, structure, etc. THE SELLER SHOULD AMEND THE PROPERTY CONDITION DISCLOSURE TO REFLECT THE FACTS AND KNOWN DEFECTS IN THE PROPERTY. 

WHAT ABOUT THE LISTING THAT SAYS "AS IS".   All resale homes are sold "AS IS".   Notice that the term "AS IS" isn't referenced in any of the above subject to terms and conditions of the home inspection contingency.  Don't let a seller or listing agent rely on the crutch of "AS IS" to avoid responsibility for property defects.  "AS IS" is conditioned on a satisfactory home inspection. 

If a property is technically an "AS IS" sale, as are most REO, foreclosure, bank owned and short sale properties, the "Property Condition" paragraph in the Contract of Sale will be deleted by an "AS IS" addendum.   Often these contracts permit a home inspection "For Buyers Information Only".  Buyers need to know the difference.

  • FOR HOME BUYERS.  Enjoy your newly purchased home, but first, know what you're buying.
  • FOR HOME SELLERS.  Maintain your home and there shouldn't be any surprises from a home inspection.
  • FOR LISTING AGENTS.  Known defects must be disclosed in most states by the seller and their agent.
  • FOR BUYER'S AGENTS.  Don't avoid tough home inspections.  Buyers don't need to buy a Pig in a Poke.

Courtesy, Lenn Harley, Broker, Homefinders.com, 800-711-7988.  Serving home buyers in Maryland and Northern Virginia


_______________________________________________________________________________________________________


Want to learn more about Loudoun County, VA? Join Loudoun County, VA on Facebook!

 
Post is included in group: AR Twitter Users
Post is included in group: Club Chaos
Post is included in group: Loudoun County New Homes
Post is included in group: Realtors®
Post is included in group: The Thousand Blog Club

94 Comments on THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "BAD HOME INSPECTION", IF THE INSPECTOR FINDS THE DEFECTS IN THE PROPERTY.

JAN
03
2010

The more the inspector finds the better for the buyer.

8:13am • #1

The more the inspector finds the better for the buyer.

8:13am • #2
706,583 Points 36 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, As usual Great Advice to both sides of the fence, I am not a fan of forced repairs on sellers, So I caution buyers that the home inspection is essentially their opportunity to find out if they can live with the results or walk away from the deal. You can always ask for repairs but an inspection doesn't imply the seller has to contribute...failing a meeting of the minds the seller does have to return the buyers deposit and that is motivation enough to consider repairs (But not Guarantee repairs - such as bank owned or short sales -as is).

8:19am • #3
668,706 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Lenn,

The "Bad" home inspection is the one by the inept inspector, and there are plenty of them out there.

8:27am • #4
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Judi.  Absolutely.

Steve.  Right you are and I just added a couple of sentances to cover that.  Thanks.

Mike.  There are also good ones and they are easy to find and most agents know them.

 

8:29am • #5
288,572 Points 38 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Everyone under the sun knows you should get a home inspection - frankly I think it should be mandatory. And if the cost is the reason you are not getting one, then there is no way you should be buying a home.

8:34am • #6
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Steve.  Indeed.  If a person can't fund a home inspection, how are they going to maintain their home??????

8:39am • #7
668,706 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Lenn,

Oh, yes.  There certainly are good ones.  I know several and am comfortable with recommendations I make to my clients for inspectors.  I also field some "Bad Inspection" reports, "bad" in terms of inspector competence and coherence, from buyers agents from time to time.

8:49am • #8
733,659 Points 231 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn... again, some great information. A home inspection should be great for both the buyer and seller. Stephanie Somers wrote about this a week ago. ANd I agree with Steve's comment 110%....  it could be extremely costly down the road, no matter what you think.  And as someone mentioned, just like any service, you just need to be careful of who you choose as your home inspector.

jeff belonger

8:49am • #9
1,154,466 Points 116 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Ratified a contract last night and the seller decided to "throw in" a new roof.  Of course now I'm suspcious of what else the home inspector will find while we wait for the new roof to be installed.

8:50am • #10
1,224,322 Points 262 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn...

I thought about writing about this. Fortunately you have stated the facts more eloquently than I ever could have!

It's simple, everyone benefits from having all of the facts laid out on the table. Period, end of story!

8:51am • #11
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Mike.  As a buyer's agent, I do, indeed, recommend MY home inspector.  He's tough, thorough and I use him on my own homes.

Jeff.  The home inspection is so important.  I can't figure why so many agents no longer attend because of "risk".  HA!  I believe the risk is in putting one's head in the sand.

Cindy.  Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. 

Richard.  Write it.  I barely scratched the surface.

 

8:57am • #12
3 Featured Posts

I can't believe there are still buyers who will try to "save" money by waiving a home inspection. I still seen that happening. The more the inspector finds...the better. 

9:05am • #13
Outside Blog

My husband and I are dealing with this as we speak. Although we did have a home inspection before we bought our home and the few necessary repairs were made, our green metal roof began to peel six months after we moved in. These roofs are supposed to have a 30 year warranty. This was either not checked or overlooked when the inspector looked at the roof. Now were are investigating our options as far as who is responsible. I advise all my clients to not only have an inspection but to be present and observe the inspection and above all else ask questions!!!!

9:18am • #14
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Maria.  I have purchased homes with no home inspection.  However, I'm always prepared to make any repairs and I want to negotiate a good price, which I do.

However, for consumers, always, always advise a home inspection.

Krista.  Sounds like a warranty matter. 

9:33am • #15
1,302,074 Points 313 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn - pretty risky to not do home inspections, even more so in these das of short sales and REOs. I always recommend. THis is great stsuff and I would like to link to this article in my First Time Buyer Blog if that's OK?

Jeff

9:38am • #16
780,386 Points 71 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn a very nice put together summary of the importance of a home inspection from ALL angles!

10:49am • #18
218,115 Points 4 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Lenn- I agree.  Disclosure, disclosure and more disclosure.  

Re-blog......

10:54am • #19
1,103,493 Points 45 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Len,

The bad home inspection is not going to be the one that goes into detail. It will be the one that misses major issues -- like a wet or pest infestation in the crawl space. Those are the litigious ones in our bug infested northwest.

11:02am • #20
748,916 Points 98 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Great stuff Lenn----with the Internet today and the number of good agents to ask----there really is no excuse for ending up with a "bad" inspector----I see it happen because of short inspection contingency periods.  Better home inspectors are often busy----3 day inspection contingencies often push buyers toward inspectors that are not as busy.  Some of those inspectors are going to be the ones that are less experienced as well as "bad."  I do think they are slowly getting weeded out with better education and licensing and continuing education.

11:04am • #21
224,700 Points 38 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

Hey Lenn--Do I get any "Brownie' points for putting this idea into your head?

best,

Elliott Topkins

 

11:04am • #22
742,537 Points 3 Featured Posts

Lenn,

That was a very comprehensive post with lots of good advice.

Recently, a home inspector who undertook a bad inspection had to compensate the buyers for his negligence.

Brian

11:06am • #23
330,547 Points 8 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Good Morning Lenn: 

Today I decided to take out my notebook. Thank you for addressing such a timely and appropriate subject.  It was just yesterday I had a conversation with a potential client about home inspections.  She and her husband purchased a home, they were not represented by a REALTOR, and after closing everything that could go wrong, went wrong.  They are now thinking about cutting their losses.  

This is quite a comprehensive list Lenn, hope you don't mind if I incorporate come of it into the one I currently use with my clients.  Thank you    

11:10am • #24
3 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Great post Lenn! I agree with everything you said.  Inspections are a GOOD thing!

However, there is such a thing as a bad home inspection.  Several years ago I ran into the worst home inspector EVER!  He inspected the roof by standing on the back patio and shining a flash light on it (on a 95 degree day at 2:00 in the afternoon).  His kitchen inspection consited of running the faucett (never looked under the sink fro leaks or damage), turning on stove burners (never checked the oven), he checked the hindges on a cabinet door, made a bunch of notes on his report and then went on to the next room.  He never even turned on the lights, or ran the dishwasher, or checked outlets (no GFI by the way).  Finally, I pulled the buyer's aside and got their permission to ream this guy a new one (he was their inspector)!  I gave him a choice, do a propper thorough inspection, or walk away with no fee.  Amazing how much better he got!  The buyer's couldn't thank me enough for being there.  Rare case, but here's an inspection that cold have been all kinds of trouble.

11:11am • #25
254,681 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router

A good home inspector is worth their weight in gold. I always make sure that my buyers still to him like glue, it is the best opportunity they will ever have to learn about their new home.

11:16am • #26
1,138,635 Points 76 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Lenn:  I was in a class not too long ago where the instructor, who described himself as a buyer's agent said that, "My buyers really don't need to pay for home inspections.  After seven years in the business and attending many home inspections, I pretty much know what to look for."  A chill ran up my spine when I heard him telling a classroom full of 100 students.  Let the professionals do what they do.  I don't like putting myself in that GIGANTIC position of liability.

11:21am • #27
730,477 Points 143 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

A bad home inspector is one that creates fear confusion when it is not necessary. They don't explain items objectively. A stupid and inept home inspector is worse than having an inspection in some cases. A buyer who walks away from the home of their dreams because of "bad information" is a pathetic and sad scenario. I'd rather they bring uncle johnny the know-it-all than listen to some clown.

11:24am • #28
1,478,852 Points 275 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, while I generally agree with your thesis, there are some bad ones - really bad ones.  There is a guy in DC who nit picks stuff that is totally unimportant but misses huge things like leaking shower pans, gas leaks in the furnace line, and serious issues with electrical systems.  I guess that what I'm saying is it's bad when they put the magnifying glass over the wrong things and miss stuff that's going to cost my clients money down the road.

11:32am • #29
788,846 Points 47 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, your blog is the A B C of a properly flowing transaction. For me a good inspection is when the inspector takes the time to differentiate  between problem areas and areas that a buyer should understand as requiring periodic maintenance.

11:32am • #30
152,192 Points 1 Featured Post

I'm with Mike (#4 & #8). I have seen a lot of bad home inspections. Also, bad lawyering, crappy title work, and mortgage underwriting to name a few of the caveats in real estate purchases.

11:34am • #31
141,604 Points 11 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Chris Ann - that comment gave me chills too! Oh my!

I love my inspectors and oftentimes if my buyer is goofy enough to tell me they want to save the money, I'll ask how much they'd be willing to pay for an inspection, and subsidize the rest for them, in some cases I've paid for it myself - I just do not believe anyone should be without one.

Great post, as usual!

11:34am • #32
154,308 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, a home inspection does not guarantee you will uncover everything but it is sure the best chance you will have.

11:37am • #33
278,556 Points 15 Featured Posts

I totally agree when the inspector is competent and you confirm wiuth licensed people where necessary. About 5 years ago we finally got inspectors licensed in Oklahoma. Before that it was chaos.

11:37am • #34
113,853 Points

Good post Lenn, as you said you barely scratched the surface!

I would say that "bad" home inspectors are just about as common as "bad" real estate agents.  They come and go with the wind. 

11:42am • #35
936,580 Points 361 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, I agree home inspections are important. However, I disagree that there are no bad home inspections. I just had one. An inspector that voices his opinion about what needs to be done before the transaction closed is bad inspector giving a bad home inspection. For example: "Roof seems to be at the end of its life. We recommend having the seller replace the roof prior to closing"

That's word for word from an inspection report I received this morning. The roof is not leaking. There were repairs done after the hurricanes in 2004. The seller disclosed the repairs and even provided the invoices prior to the buyer making an offer. The property is being sold "as is" with right to inspect. The inspector is giving his opinion of what needs to be done PRIOR to closing. The buyer is now asking for a $5,000 credit. The seller is getting ready to tell him to go take a hike as we already have a back up cash contract on the table.

I am all for thorough inspections. I am 100% against inspectors opining about the solutions to the problem. Especially since they have no idea what was negotiated  in the purchase contract.

I have also had inspectors break the AC system, put holes in the wall, tear out the shrubbery because he thought it was too close to the house, fall though the ceiling because he weighed over 300lbs, rip the plumbing out of the wall, leave the burners on and set off the smoke alarms after they left etc etc ect.

There are MANY bad home inspections.

At this time there are ZERO licensing requirements to be ahome inspector in Florida. This needs to change.

11:52am • #36
338,076 Points 27 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn - I agree with everything you have said but your title is confusing.  If the points that you discuss are missed or glossed over, then obviously it's a bad inspection.  A bad inspection can mean that many defects were discovered thus dooming the sale, or very few defects were found when if fact they were there.

11:56am • #37

Great post and informative. I agree Lenn, you just scratched the surface. Always get an inspection. Knowledge is power.

11:58am • #38
283,206 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn,  You hit the nail on the head with this post.  I love an inspection to give us more data for the buyers.  Also, I found that all of my sales for buyers this year were on homes that were very well maintained.  It's hard to put an obvious value on that when buying, but can make a big difference to the new buyers over the next few years they own the house.  All the best, Michelle

12:31pm • #39
771,849 Points 92 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

I've had sellers who were victims of a bad home inspection. In one such instance, the home inspector told the buyer the entire foundation was failing, the house needed to be jacked up and all the girders replaced. Freaked the buyer out so badly that the buyer wanted to cancel the transaction.

Fortunately, I brought in a foundation engineer who assured the buyers that the home inspector they had hired was flat out wrong. One of the girders had a crack, normal in a home that age and easily replaced. But the buyers almost lost that home because of a faulty home inspection report. And the sellers almost lost their sale.

A home inspection is only as good as the home inspector performing it. I refer many of my buyers to a home inspector who is called upon by the court as an expert witness. He charges more than some of the others, but he's worth every penny. The last thing anybody wants or needs is for a transaction to unravel after closing.

12:34pm • #40

Oh yes, indeed, there are bad home inspections. They are the ones that wind up with the Seller, Buyer, both Realtors, and the home inspector in court!

12:40pm • #41
425,348 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Hi Lenn~ One thing that is bad about a home inspection is opting to NOT do one.  I can't believe that there are buyers that actually chose NOT to do a home inspection.  New or old, all homes need to be inspected!

12:42pm • #42
293,956 Points 2 Featured Posts

there is no such thing as a bad home inspection but bad home inspector that is another matter.

12:54pm • #43
685,841 Points 83 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

The home inspector I 'highly recommend' to clients is someone who has been working in the industry for over 15 years, with over 4,000 inspections under his belt.  He's great!  A good real estate agent knows good people.  In Dec. I had a potential client ask if they could use someone they knew -- can't remember if it was someone licensed, or not.  Shutter.  They can use whoever they want, they will not get the SAME RESULTS as the 'highly recommended' inspector I could refer. 

12:56pm • #44
200,080 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lenn, nice article. I think it is imperative for the buyers to be present for the inspection. The inspector can elaborate on the older items, and why an older home is not up to code. Lets remember homes that are foreclosures have probably not been maintained.

1:06pm • #45
145,416 Points 21 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lenn, more often than not an inspection labeled as "bad" has less to do with the actual inspection and more to do with the agents who did not educate their clients about how the process works. A buyers agent lets the buyer ask for "everything" regardless of whether or not the 'repair' falls into the perview of the contract or a sellers agent doesn't explain that some items will require disclosure if the home has to be put back on the market should the seller adopt a hard nosed attitude toward the repair negotiation and lose the buyer.

Generally, inspections are snapshots in time and no two inspectors will find the exact same things. They are great protection for ALL parties! Great post as ever!

1:06pm • #46
214,759 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

Lynn this is really good information for all parties concerned.  I always push having a home inspection.  Its helps give a buyer a clearer picture on what they are purchasing. I want to thank you for letting me re-blog this information for my home blog.

1:43pm • #47
Localism Sponsor
I think an inspection should/would be a must for all buyers.
1:58pm • #48
Localism Sponsor
I think an inspection should/would be a must for all buyers.
1:58pm • #49
412,093 Points 1 Featured Post

Not having a home inspection is stupid.....It's life insurance, when you need it...you've got it!!

Patricia/Seacoast NH

2:42pm • #50
412,093 Points 1 Featured Post

PS...I do think that "there are those" buyers that will take advantage of the situation and try to negotiate the he... out of it!!

Everything within reason should apply.

Patricia/Seacoast NH

2:44pm • #51
412,093 Points 1 Featured Post

PS...I do think that "there are those" buyers that will take advantage of the situation and try to negotiate the he... out of it!!

Everything within reason should apply.

Patricia/Seacoast NH

2:44pm • #52
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Bill G.  Thanks.  I really didn't scratch the surface, it's such a complicated and important function.

Mark.  Indeed.  Disclosure helps but I surely don't rely on it.

Steven.  The pest inspection is a whole "nuther" subject.  I could write reams.

Charles.  A 3 day contingency is not reasonable.  That said, I've surely done them.  I'm ready to write at the end of the inspection.  I also recommend a home inspector who writes his summary at the end of the inspection and explains each item to the buyers.

Elliott.  Indeed.  We could actually write another couple of posts each just to cover the basics. 

Brian M.  And that isn't the first or last one.  BTW, the matter of the home inspection contract is the subject of which a post should be written.  There's case law about the "limits of liability" included in most contracts.

 

 

 

 

3:05pm • #53
811,189 Points 91 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Many times on a resale home the items that come up that will cost the seller are routine items that were not found because they did not have the home inspected when buying.

4:00pm • #54
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Broker Bryant.  What is meant by "BAD" home inspection is, in the eyes of many agents and sellers, a home inspection that does what it's supposed to do, reveal defects. 

As for the home inspector who wrote or said:

Roof seems to be at the end of its life. We recommend having the seller replace the roof prior to closing"

That is a bad home inspector.  Their job is to document defects covered by the "property condition" paragraph of the contract (in my area).  Their job is not to recommend how to handle the inspection NOTICE.  That's the agent's job.

HOWEVER, you reinforce my point where I said that just because a roof is old, that does not mean that it isn't performing as it should, meaning keeping the rain out. 

Roofs are very difficult to handle in a home inspection unless a buyer is in the house while the rain is pouring on his head. 

That is precisely why, when a roof is clearly "beyond it's useful life", if my buyer wants the house and isn't prepared to replace the roof after settlement, we condition the Contract of Sale on the seller replacing the roof prior to settlement. 

That way, if the seller isn't prepared to replace the roof, he doesn't accept the contract and we continue looking unless the buyer wants to take the roof as is.

Roofs are one of the most difficult things for many agents to try to get covered in a home inspection.  I just do not rely on a home inspection for roofs.

If it ain't leaking, it's performing.

 

 

4:00pm • #55
207,484 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

You made some great points as usual, Lenn.  As a listing agent, there are always some inspectors we dread because they are "deal killers."  When we are buyers agents, guess who we call :)

4:05pm • #56
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Margaret.  FIXED!  Thanks.

Chuck.  Agreed. 

Michelle.  Indeed.  A poorly maintained home will cost the buyer in the future.

Elizabeth.  You are "spot on".  The home inspector I recommend also does "forensic" work.  He also teaches and consults nationwide.  He's expensive but worth every dime.

Russell.  You're right.  However, I believe that most after settlement lawsuits were by purchasers who failed to get a home inspection. 

Vickie.  I wouldn't go that far, but for homes with basement foundations, large older homes, etc. I agree. 

Andrew.  You're eloquent.

Carla.  Buyers don't know what a good home inspections is.  Most agents do.

Frank and Jodi.  I don't expect a home inspector to inspect for "code".  Only a municipal code inspector is licensed to do that. 

However, what I do find helpful is a home inspector who can identify homeowner "improvements" that may not have been properly done.

SarahGray.  Agreed.  It's our job to inform the buyer of the limits of a home inspection. 

Diane.  Thanks.  Reblog away.

Trisha.  I wouldn't go that far but they're important for most properties.

Patricia.  Most buyers will benefit by a home inspection.  The contract is already accepted and the earnest money deposited.  The home inspection is a separate metter.  That said, a seller can credit the buyer in lieu of repairs if it's better for all parties.

Jim. I've seen that too. 

 

 

 

4:17pm • #57
1 Featured Post Outside Blog Hit Router

The good inspectors in our area are always careful to state that they recommend a qualified roofing company inspect the roof if the inspector has the opinion it's on its last legs.   Same for structural issues.   They may note a foundation issue, but recommend a structural engineer make the final determination.   AND the good inspectors do NOT attempt to repair any items they find to be deficient.   They leave that to the professional repair contractor.     BTW Texas home inspectors are licensed through the Texas Real Estate Commission and must carry errors and omissions insurance, as well as complete regular continuing education classes.   

5:06pm • #59
427,560 Points 5 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Lenn, you get an A+ on your homework! Home inspections are critical even on new construction. The inspections can't find everything but they do turn up a lot of issues that need to be corrected.

5:29pm • #60
104,294 Points 6 Featured Posts

As a former government building code inspector, I always tip my hat the home inspectors. They have a very tough job, that needs to be done to keep us all moving in the right direction. Full disclosure is so important yet so difficult under the pressure of a transaction.

5:42pm • #61
396,245 Points 30 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Lenn, you have made some very good points.  I always advice my buyers to do a home inspection.  It gives them necessary information about the home and helps if it is necessary to re-negotiate.  You handled this subject so thoroughly, I'm going to re-blog it.  Thanks.

5:44pm • #62
102,339 Points

Lenn, I recently found myself in a position when my buyer did not use any of the inspectors I recommended and picked  another out of the yellow pages, and who offered her the best price.  She was going under the misguided premise that the real estate agent would probably recommend an inspector who would not be overly critical in order not to blow the deal.  The inspector she chose was not very familiar with how heating systems operated, a key component when living in the Poconos, and also left a big item uninspected - the oil tank located in the basement.  He had difficulty getting the furnace to work properly during the inspection, and finally tinkered with it enough to get it to produce while we were at the house.  The inspection made me cringe, and I had to be very tactful when my buyer asked me my opinion of the inspection in order to let her know that he had some deficiencies, without disapproving of her judgment.

The heating system did break down with our first cold snap, and she had to have it repaired.  This was an item that could have been addressed prior to closing if the inspector was truly qualified (despite what his certifications may have said).  His inpsection report passed the heating system.

The home inspection is extremely important, and essential to it is an inspector who knows what he is doing, what is important, and what is not, as per Ed Silva, #30 above.

This is a great post.  Thank you for all the time and detail that went into it.

6:06pm • #63
191,893 Points 5 Featured Posts

Lenn, great observations. We really need to know what is going on with the properties.

6:39pm • #64
923,009 Points 97 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, excellent, excellent points.

I tell Buyers all the time when I am meeting with them for a Loan, that even though the Home Inspection is not a requirement for them to get the loan, that it will be the best expenditure that they will make in the process of buying their home.

6:43pm • #65
1,004,393 Points 36 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master
Sometimes an inspection is not what you might hope , but I agree they are very important for discovering potential problems.
7:15pm • #66
278,885 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

Lenn ~ Brilliant mind as usual. The home inspection is crucial for all parties involved. Happy New Year!

7:17pm • #67
865,261 Points 50 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

I've run across two types of inspections that I would consider bad... 

  • Inspectors that find things, but fail to find all of the important defects. 
  • Inspectors that blow things out of proportion. 

It takes educated buyers. 

8:08pm • #68
238,963 Points 2 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Great post Lenn!!!!  Irrespective it is a new construction, foreclosure, short sale or a traditional sale power of home inspection can ever be under estimated.

8:34pm • #69
147,462 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Great post Lenn!  A home inspection is a MUST for any buyer who wants to feel confident about the home he/she is purchasing!

9:28pm • #70
Outside Blog

Hey Lenn,

I think your post is excellent, and fully covers what we as home inspectors are trained to do. In every profession and trade there are some bad apples, so being careful is a must. The best way to find out about home inspections, and what to expect is doing research.

 Agents, buyers, and sellers will do well to visit the websites of two of the largest home inspection organisations which are: www.nachi.org, which shows all the training for home inspectors. Also visit www.ashi.org Click on "about ashi" at the top, this will inform readers about the home inspection industry.

The saying is true - "an informed client is the best client."

9:58pm • #71

This is another great post and should make it obvious to anyone wanting to buy a home why you need a home inspection. Everyone should read this.

11:04pm • #72
158,238 Points 1 Featured Post Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

Great post.  There is no such thing as bad information from a home inspection.  

11:19pm • #73
530,827 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Great information Lenn.... Home inspections are so ever inportant and every home sold should have one.

11:22pm • #74
JAN
04
2010
524,985 Points 33 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Wow how good is this?  This is a fabulous post to forward on to all our clients - thank you~

1:40am • #75
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Mary Ann.  MD inspectors are now licensed too.  However, there are many who were grandfathered in if they got in at the early stage of licensing.  Nevertheless, it was a move in the right direction. 

As for inspectors recommending further inspections???  Nothing is more infuriating to me than when a buyer finds a home inspector in the phone book or on the Internet who will not give an opinion but merely recommends further inspections.  What the * ^ $ (  is the inspector there for???  He/she is there to inspect and render an evaluation about what is there, not pass the buck to an unknown higher level of inspection. 

Betty and John.  I agree that home inspections are helpful for new construction.  That said, it is a completely different type of inspection.  For resales, we need to know the condition of systems, heat, cool, roof, etc. that have been in operation for years to determine the present condition.  For new construction, the buyer gets new warranties. 

Frank.  Indeed.  The only thing more important than full disclosure is prior maintenance.  With good maintenance of homes, we'd hardly need inspections.  But. . . . .

Tammi.  I don't use the home inspection to re-negotiate the contract.  I use it to get defects repaired or give my buyer the opportunity to void the contract.  If the home was worth the negotiated price and a defect is discovered in the home inspection, the home is still worth the negotiated price once the defect is cured.

Renee.  Sad indeed.  The heating system (and cooling system) are two of the most important components of a home for which we have the inspection.  Sometimes, if a home is clearly in good condition but the heating/cooling doesn't show signs of maintenance, I recommend a heating/cooling contractor give an inspection. 

Nick.  You bet. 

George.  Probably a good idea, but I'd check with the agent first to see what conversation has transpired re home inspection before venturing into that contract matter. 

Christine.  Folks shouldn't enter into a home inspection with pre-conceived ideas of what it should be.  It will be what it will be.

Monique.  Indeed.  Often the agents don't realize how important the home inspection is for their risk reduction.

Lane.  Right you are.  I'll add one.  Inspectors who render opinions about the value of the property.

Ritu.  I agree.  Home inspections, if nothing else, give buyers a sense of security that they at least know what they're buying.

Emily.  THAT is the reason for most home inspections, buyer confidence. 

Eric.  I have more confidence in the ASHI inspectors.  That's based on experience.

James.  Thanks.  I want agents to welcome home inspections too, for their own risk reduction.

Dawn.  Right.  Bad information from a home inspections is often GOOD.

Roland.  Depending on the property and the buyer, they are usually a good idea.  Smart cash investment buyers can often get some fabulous buys by foregoing the inspection.

Liz.  Thanks.  Pass it on.

4:01am • #76
974,044 Points 17 Featured Posts Hit Router Called Shot Master

Thanks Lenn, great post with some interesting comments.  I've reblogged this one.

6:05am • #77
1,048,706 Points 177 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Quite often, I hear the statement from a novice buyer, Does it mean that the inspection FAIL???

Then, I would have to go into explaning - There is no pass or fail. It just tells you the property condition as it exercise our Texas Option - the unrestricted to terminate.

6:08am • #78
115,577 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

In our area we often have the seller get inspections so the buyer knows what he getting before he writes an offer.  Make the process go a lot smoother.  Buyers are encouraged to get their own inspectoin also as a second opinion.  Seems to work very well.  A few of the potential costlier repairs are not always immediate apparent and an inspection can discover these issues early in the game so everyone knows what they are dealing with.

6:42am • #79
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Loreena.  Excellent.  Inspections are to FIND, not to KILL.

Frank.  What I don't understand is why the sellers don't fix things BEFORE listing the house for sale.  It's been clear to me for years that THERE ARE NO DEFECTS if the BUYER CAN'T FIND THEM.

 

6:46am • #80
859,394 Points 75 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

You could blog this every week, Lenn, and make sure buyer's agents, seller's agents and consumers understand. I re-blogged it to get it to my outside blog. Excellent advice.

7:25am • #82

Super blog Lenn....covering inspections from all sides....

7:29am • #83
JAN
05
2010
3 Featured Posts

The value of a home inspection is priceless.  Even items that are currently satisfactory may have a short life span remaining and it is nice when a buyer knows they should be saving some money for such things in advance.

6:00pm • #87
JAN
06
2010
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

ERica.  Good for you.  Reblogging is a great way of syndicating both our AR blogs.

Diane.  Thanks.

Andrea.  YOU ARE RIGHT.  Far too many purchasers believe that a resale home needs to be in new home condition when they buy.  Not so.  However, a good home inspector and BUYER'S AGENT will advise them on the need to "set aside" money for future maintenance.

 

4:21am • #88
428,056 Points 71 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

It's interesting to hear all the different views on good and bad home inspectors. What I see in the industry is continuing improvement in the general competency and professionalism of inspectors. Licensing is now a reality in over 30 states and many of the remaining unlicensed states are looking to license inspectors. Licensing is not a cure for incompetence, but provides a higher standard for those in the profession. One organization of which I am a member (ASHI) is a driving force in making the home inspection industry better. ASHI has been a key player in improving the industry and will continue to do so moving forward.

4:37pm • #89
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

James.  You are so right.  I have had the best results from ASHI inspectors.

4:43pm • #90
JAN
07
2010
300,676 Points 55 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Lenn - This is very thorough. I think you covered everything in terms of what a home inspection is and why it's beneficial to both parties.

8:45am • #91
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Carol.  Actually, I've just scratched the surface.  There is only so much room on a post.

3:43pm • #92
JAN
10
2010
1,396,089 Points 109 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Lenn, being married to a home inspector and a very picky one at that, I've learned to look at houses in a "whole different way". 

8:24pm • #93
JAN
11
2010
1,544,332 Points 416 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Judi.  Attending about 500 home inspections has given me a good insight too.

 

6:15am • #94

This blog does not allow anonymous comments

 


Listings

Links

Archives

RSS 2.0 Feed for this blog