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Are You A Victim Of The Market? Vancouver WA Real Estate

It seems that you can barely turn on the news without hearing about how "The Market" has taken another victim. It seems this market has been indiscriminately targeting sellers and their agents and casting hexes on them. Their homes have been sitting for sale for weeks and months and years without any visits or offers. Certainly, they must be "victims" of the market! Right?

What do we know about victims?

1.  They think that they have no responsibility in their fate. Whatever it is, it has happened to them.

2.  They think that there is nothing that they could have done to prevent the outcome from happening. Their actions did not affect the results.

3.  They always have something else to blame their fate on. (The market, the weather, their agent, their neighbor, etc.)

Vancouver WA Real EstateI hate to be the bearer of bad news but, if you have a home that has been sitting on the market for weeks and months and years without any visits or offers, you either need to start listening to your Realtor® or get a new agent.

The answer to your dilemma is quite simple. You are either over priced or the condition of your home doesn't warrant the price that you are asking. (i.e.; You are over priced!) There are a huge number of homes selling in this market and some are selling in just a few short weeks.

Don't be a victim! If your home isn't selling, then you need to do one of two things: listen to your agent's pricing recommendations or find a new agent! There are no victims of the market. There are only sellers who sold their homes and sellers with over priced homes. Which do you want to be?

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69 Comments on Are You A Victim Of The Market? Vancouver WA Real Estate

JAN
07
2010

I believe there are so many people effected by the market that we don't know about.

8:48pm • #1
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Ha! How many times will we need to beat this horse until it's really dead, Mark? I just wish that folks would listen to reason before it ever comes to that. But then again, that's how we know who the true sellers are...

8:53pm • #2
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Hi Mark,

Good advice as always. The longer a house sits on the market the more likely they are to receive a low offer.  Buyers are savvy and if they have a good agent will be educated on the market and what house are selling for in any given area.

 

8:58pm • #3
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You're on a roll with this series Mark - right on the Mark........hmmm lol

10:52pm • #4
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Mark,

Good points.....and congrats on your feature.  It is true if a home is in good condition and priced well....it will sell...

11:53pm • #5
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You make great points here; just part of our blame it on somebody else mentality in this country.

11:53pm • #6
JAN
08
2010
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Mark, Thank you for telling it like it is. They will get a new agent every other month until they finally decide that they have to listen.  We have a running joke in the office that it is best to be third in line.

 

 

12:30am • #7
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I am always amazed at sellers who will choose to drop their price 10K rather than spend 1K repainting a room or two. Condition sells but sellers don't beleive it.

5:46am • #8
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First problem is that we watch and believe the news to much. Then our clients go out and think they can buy homes like you see listed on all those infomoricials

Tony

6:16am • #9
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It really IS that simple! Condition and price will sell your home! There has never been a better time to SELL your home, with interest rates so low and the gov't kicking in to get buyers spending...waiting for the one buyer, with cash, failing eyesight and no internet access, not to mention a knowledgible agent, is probably not the best selling strategy!

6:19am • #10
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This post hits the nail on the head!  I wish I could send it directly to one of my sellers, who I would like to part ways with!

I like SarahGray's comment above, LOL....waiting for the blind, cash buyer!

9:38am • #11
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I learned this lesson years ago. I was in the retail business in the 70's and 80;s, and when the "market" in Oklahoma turned sour due to low oil prices, my bank went out of business. Because my debt ratio was so high my loan got kicked into FDIC hell. They were evil in their dealings and it took me 3 years to get out of there, but you know, iof I would have paid more attention to reducing debt, I would have never been in a position where I could be treated that badly. I have very low debr today. You have to put yourself in a position to be fortunate.

9:48am • #12
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Mark:

There is a right price for every home.  If the house has been sitting on the market with no showings and no offers, then it is obviously not listed at the right price. 

It is a simple message but one that is critical.

 

10:17am • #13
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I did a re-blog. Good advice.

11:06am • #14
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Mark we ALWAYS can do something. Don't be a victim.
2:07pm • #15
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It always comes down to PRICE,  then CONDITION...... Yes, the longer the house sits on the market for sale the lower and offer might be.

 

Patricia/Seacoast NH

3:46pm • #16
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THanks for the reminder, i've bookmarked it to sent to someone= someone who needs to read this for sure!

Patricia/Seacoast NH

3:48pm • #17
JAN
09
2010
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One of the ironies I've observed in our local market is many local agent consistently overpricing their personal homes.  Yes, I said their own homes are wildly overpriced.  They have access to internet and all the records.  If their waiting for a blind, cash buyer, no wonder so many homes are overpriced.   

8:33am • #18
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Mark, in addition to real estate agents, I guess we must be "brokers of reality." Sellers still don't get it. Agents who over-price to get a listing do a disservice to the seller and cost themselves valuable time and money, better spent I motivated sellers. I've re-blogged this post.

8:45am • #19

Very well-put!  It's true that so many sellers are just hoping to get that unattainable price in this market.  In the meantime, their listings are getting more stale by the minute.

8:48am • #20
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Great blog, but way too truthful for most people.  They would rather blame it on the market, because THEY can't be wrong.

8:49am • #21
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They may be affected by the market, but "victims"....NO!

9:06am • #22
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Everyone has choices (even if they choose not to make a decision) and the actions that result effect their life's and those around them.  

Well written and to the point.

9:10am • #23

Then you have the other side.  When you have a lot of great homes for sale but no one to buy them.  I can't even count anymore how many potential buyers we have lost here due to the credit restrictions that went into place last year and are continuing.  I have some great buyers right now that are trying to purchase a nice home with 2+ acres for only $78,000.  They have great credit but because they haven't had it for a very long time (first time homebuyers, young couple) their credit score is below 620.  So, we have had to work hard to find someone who can lend them the money. 

Our market has a lot of great homes, realistically priced, but we don't have the buyers.  We aren't a large market and we aren't a wealthy market.  All the restrictions, especially taking away down payment assistance has hurt our real estate economy.  But, time will tell how this all works out.  We are patient.

9:13am • #24

Well, why not turn things upside down, tell them what they want to hear and then tell them that YOU can do something for them?

Reduce their mortgage balance.

I am using an administrative process to ASK the lender to reduce the mortgage balance. This is a no risk, no cost option to reduce the balance of the mortgage. When more equity is created the listing price can be reduced to attract offers and you'll be turning victims into happy victims with extra cash in their pockets.

Here is a scenario I am helping a home owner with in Dallas (all payments are current)

List price $640,000

Best offer $550,000

Mortgage loans $410,000

The home owner wants their down payment of $200,000 back. When the mortgage balance is reduced they will be able to lower the listing price to what the market will pay and get back their down payment AND MORE!

My program is a great substitute for short sales. No more begging with the lender.

Greg S

myhousefreeandclear at gmail.com

 

9:16am • #25
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Oh so true. One of my clients was just asking me about a house that was priced at 695,000 and sellers bought it is 2004 for 645,000. She intererested in it and thought there was a mistake on the price. I looked into it and had to come back with a sorry, no mistake, the seller obviously cannot come to terms that their house cannot sell for that and that is why it has been on the market for over a year.  They may as well take it off the market because it is not going to move at that price. What a shame, beautiful home... I would have loved to sell it to my client. Great post!

9:19am • #26

Mark  - your message will not be received with enthusiasm by your intended audience, but no matter - it is the absolute truth.  I am somewhat familiar with your market as I am from your neck of the woods, but now I live in S. Texas North of Corpus Christi.  Our market, which is primarily retirees and 2nd homes ranging from under 100k to well over 1 million, is pretty typical.  I have found that if my sellers don't want to listen then I need to walk away.  It's not easy, but quite bluntly I know longer will take what won't sell.

9:38am • #27

I've been noticing in my area that certain agents are actually rising the sale price on homes that have been sitting on the market.  Been in a couple of these to see what improvements were made and didn't see any.  I guess they think with inventory down, interest rates starting to rise and the tax credit they will be a hero to their seller when the naive buyer shows up with the naive agent. The properties still sit. 

9:46am • #28

Mark, you make a great point about the condition of the home not warranting the price (making the home overpriced) and want to add that in this market with so many homes on the market to choose from condition is crucial.  I'm seeing a lot of buyers pass on a house that may need a little work - even just cosmetic - to pick one down the street that's move in ready even if it's priced higher.  These days it seems the reductions that need to make to account for condition are often a lot more than what the seller would want to do.  It's often cheaper to clean up and update.  The home will then usually spend less time on the market and sell for a higher price.  Rick Wellington touched on it, but I just wanted to draw more attention to the fact.  I used to say every house will sell, but at what price?  Now, I'm not so sure every house will sell for a price a private seller (not bank or corporate seller) would accept.

9:49am • #29
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Mark,

Points well taken.  The key here is to stop focusing on the "news", and focus on what works now.  It is so much easier to be a victim than to be proactive!

9:58am • #30

Who's the vicitim the buyer, seller or agent? As Gary Pike said I am seeing that trend here in Az, overpriced properties and wondering where these prices came from? The seller? The agent? Makes no sense to me when the property down the street is $50-$100k cheaper?

10:02am • #31

It's unfortunate that the market is tough and I Know some people bought homes they can't afford but there are a lot of people who are really victims of this market. They worked hard, build equity and now they see their life's work gets flushed, that is not easy to take in. I can't help to blame some real estate agents however because they promise the world to get the listing and then they want to tell their sellers the facts a few weeks down the line.

10:05am • #32

These "victims" sometimes post only one picture on there MLS listing, misspell key words and names so that search engines have difficulties, etc. Then they (usually banks or their asset management companies) wonder why they're listings don't bring action.

These are the same listing agents who add comments like "don't call me for any reason, email only."

10:13am • #33
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Mark.. One does NOT need to be a victim.  As you mentioned you need to listen to your realtor, or find another one.  What I have found is that 90% of the time, it is the listing price of the home is the problem.  It is not listed ahead of the market.  Owners want to get a much as they can (which I can appreciate) but at the same time they are usually overpriced and have missed the opportunity to sell and maximize their profit. 

Don't be greedy.

valerie osterhoudt

10:22am • #34

many times it is due to the owner being upside down with their loan in our area. They are NOT behind, but struggling to make ends meet. Many lenders will not come down on loan balance if the borrower is keeping payments paid, sad reality. Many people have quit making payments to "qualify" for reductions. Its a vicious cycle. Good post for those that listen to their LA and are able to sell for current market. I have heard of several offers on properties, its the bank that won't budge. Too many people are just waklking away from their homes. they rent "before" it effects their credit, then just walk away. sad but true. Around here rent is still cheaper than most peoples mortgage payments. REMINDER: have the house winterized and cut off utilities. Tell teh owner THEY are still responsible up to transfer to new owner be it the bank or a court house sale. And the power that be, will find you and attach past bills to current ones!!!!

as for listing too high, no matter what the realtor tells the owner, they still can't get it through their head they can't sell for more than the next guy. buyers today want deals!!!

10:26am • #35
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Hi Mark,  More and more buyers are asking how long a listing has been on the market.  Those out there the longest seem to attract bottom feeders !  No surprise there !    Happy 2010 to you !

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Some folks are not vicitims in that the profits they would have realized at the peak of the market are just on paper.  They had no plan to sell their home at that time, but now that they have their homes on the market it's hard for them to realize how much the market has declined.  They don't want to price their home at a level that will sell.  I use charts, graphs, and data to show my clients the overall market in addition to comparable solds.  It helps to start with the big picture - what's happening nationally and then zoom into the local market. 

However, some sellers really are victims as they bought at the peak and can't drop the price low enough and still pay off their mortgage.  They are looking at a short sale and don't have the money to buy another home.  These are folks with 30 year fixed 5 to 5.5% interest rates.  They did nothing wrong, so yes, they are victims of an economic downturn.  They haven't just lost paper profits, they have lost their down payment and the American dream of homeownership.  My heart goes out to them as I give them the bad news about pricing their home to sell.

10:28am • #37

Mark,

Great post. I actively pursue price reductions if the listing price doesn't bring prospective buyers. I try to get price adjustments every 3 weeks until the property sells.

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Well said.  Anything will sell if the it is priced right.  A seller can't control the location but condition and price are the things they can control/improve to get a property sold.

10:54am • #41

When I first read your title I thought,  Of course I'm not a victim and then I read your post a realized you were speaking of sellers who have a victim mentality.  I've never seen that be productive, however, a good dose of reality should help and it looks like you have that dialed in.

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This is a great post and here I was led to believe by the AR powers that be that self promotion won't get you featured. Hmm. I think I'll follow my instincts from now on. Good job.

11:06am • #43

Excellent and to the point.  We need to remind sellers the simplicity of what sells a home - price vs condition.  Love it!

11:21am • #44

Mark, first off, great post, although I have to disagree to a degree.

Unlike you and most others here on the post, I am not trying to impress anyone, as I am not selling real estate nor listing real estate and put my real estate appraisers licenses in escrow in April when renewal came around.

The part I do disagree with is the victim part. Not in the listing price of their homes, but in the overall realm of things real estate related at least.

It all really started with the first oil embargo, when it was realized by both OPEC and the US Government that it could be good for the both of them to have oil shortages. OPEC makes more due to the price of oil and the US Government makes more due to the price of things rising (inflation) due to the higher price of oil, thus the price of housing doubled in a very short time during the 1970's and actually quadrupled possibly, at least in some locations, such as Southern California, where I was living at the time and lived for 30 years.

I bought my first house there for $55,000 in 1976-77 and sold it in 1986 for $122,500 I believe, but don't forget, that was when interest rates were between 8 and 21%, if I am not mistaken our interest rate on that mortage was 9.25%, but don't quote me on it, as being exact anyway.

We bought the next house in 1986 for $180,000, price went to about $370,000 by 1990-91, but then took a drop and both my wife and myself lost our jobs and had to sell and ended up selling it for $292,500 in Jan-Feb or 1993, right in the middle of the recession that was going on at the time and when the man in Orange County, CA lost a billion dollars in the junk bond deal he had gotten Orange County involved in and prices had fallen considerably. That house today per Zillow is worth $694,000.

Basically all this happened due to two factors. The increase in the price of oil, which created the increase in everything else and the lowering of interest rates to where they are today and have been for a while now. But as for interest rates that is all about to change, due to the squandering of the tax payers money to save the BIG Banks and favored financial institutions, AIG, and GM and lets not forget Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Now to get back to the victim part. They are victims due to the fact that they did not create this situation, nor do they control the price of oil or interest rates.

Yes, it is hard to get people to drop the price of their homes to get them to a price that will sell, especially when they have put their life savings down as the down payment and simply want to get it back so that they can hopefully have that retirement that they dreamed of, or be able to take a reasonable vacation each year, like all the government workers who, by the way have had some of the biggest increases in raises in history, while the average working man has had little or none, or even been laid off, by the tens of thousands.

Yes, I know that you are simply trying to enlighten some of the people who you are trying to gain as clients/customers for your services, I get it, but there are victims here Mark and in my opinion, it is you who are doing the belly aching here and need to come to reality as to how the situation got to this point and is not over yet, I might add.

If this depression, yes, depression, continues to follow the depression of 1929, then the stock market will fall from the high of this leg by approximately 90%, which is what I fully expect to happen. Maybe not this year, but it took two years for it to happen in the Great Depression.

What exactly do you expect to happen should that senerio play itself out. Yes, the government is trying everything it can to stop it and that is what is and will be pushing up interest rates and push down the price of housing further, until it gets to a point where hyper inflation takes hold and then god help us, as the vast majority of the people living today, including me, have never had to endure the hardships and probably wars that will come from all of it. Lets just hope that we can have our missle defense system solidly in place by then.

Hope you and everyone here has a great weekend and a prosperious new year.

11:41am • #45

The "but MY house is special" mentality extends to affect appraisers as well - I've had a few refinance appraisals challenged because the owners just would not accept reality. In one case the owner had been trying to sell the property for over 6 months, with several price drops and the final asking price being $405k (still no buyers)...and when the appraisal came in at $390k he wrote, I kid you not, an 18 page complaint about my appraisal and how his house was worth at LEAST $430k (uh, even though he had no buyers at $405k?). Part of his "proof" of my incompetence was that my physical measurements of the house resulted in a total living area that was 6 square feet different from the builder's plans. I had to spend half a day writing rebuttals to every little point he brought up in his 18 pages. I don't get paid extra for this, and it was an AMC order so I only made $250 to begin with. So aggravating.

Another homeowner that challenged my appraisal submitted "alternative comparables" that were so radically different from her house that I can't believe I even had to take the time to point it out. What kind of denial do you have to be in to think that your 1972, 1800sf tri-level is comparable to a brand new, 3600sf 2-story craftsman? This woman was adamant that because she'd put in the granite and cherry that her house was of similar value to new ones twice its size. How can you even reason with people like this?

I don't envy you guys having to be on the front line of this madness. I'm sure you see it way more often than I do.

11:57am • #46

Congrats on the feature post.  You make some very good points.  I'd love for my sellers to read this!

12:08pm • #47
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I'm glad you made this a PUBLIC blog!  Now just hope that Sellers everywhere read it!

12:21pm • #48

I am trying to formulate a verbage that I can convincingly express to my clients who are over-pricing their properties, and all of your comments, in addition to Mark's blog are very helpful, and I am appreciative.

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Quite a few interesting comments and I think we all appreciate appraisers taking part.

To the appraisers, I have the following to offer. Please, if you receive an order to an area for which you are not keenly familiar with, please do everybody a favor and decline it. HVCC code of ethics demands this. I say this out two experiences. The 1st was an appraiser who traveled 75 miles from Rode Island.  Fortunately his prior disclosure put me into action to provide him with all the "helpful" data he could have ever wanted (Neighborhood boundaries, Comps, a Market Value based on an Assessment Model and finally a 5 year historical graph of market sales). The data was straight off the MLS and could have been similarly analyzed by any person with a working knowledge of Excel. For those wondering if this was ethical; Realtor® magazine has indicated that the new HVCC rules do not prevent agents from talking to an appraiser, offering supporting material, and certainly from summarizing home improvements. We are just not to persuade or pressure them for an outcome. If the appraiser felt otherwise, they could simply file the information in the nearest trash.

Now more to the actual post: I believe there are all sorts of victims. But when we get down to it, it's self inflicted mostly out of our own doing. Take for instance the Stock Market. In the early 90's you were a genius to have purchased 100 shares of Citi Group if you sold it prior to 9/11. But not doing so you held onto it waiting for a full recovery. Now leading into mid 2000, a dark cloud starts forming on the horizon; you held on to it or just forgot about it all together. Now an investment that grew 400% or more is worth just a fraction of what you might have put into it. Who's the victim? I say the holder of the stock for not letting go sooner.

When talking to Sellers, the logic is no different.  If they purchased a home 10 years or more back and kept clear from using it as an ATM, they are likely on solid ground. But those who did not or those who purchased either just before or sadly at the peek and did not put down a real deposit, are backed into a corner. I have had sellers who were fortunate but at the same time did walk away from some or most of their original equity.  

The truth is in how you present it.  I show them a graph such as the one below. Clearly indicating a sample home that recently sold and what it's prior purchase price was. Then I circle the dot for their purchase and pose the question. "All things being equal with regards to the market and condition of these properties then and now, would you mark the graph where your property is most likely to sell today". 7 out of 10 sellers get it the 1st time. For those who do not, we go through an exercise to determine why they feel their home no longer fits. They may not like what they see, but I have noted that they come around to where they need to be sooner than later feeling a lot less like a victim.

4:02pm • #50

I like it. Right to point and no sugar-coating.

4:17pm • #51

Well.....That's a broad stroke to a wide topic. Our home has been on the market about 2 years, we are in the high end market, over $600,000, in one of the hardest hit areas of foreclosures in the nation. We have dropped the price almost $200,000 during that period and are now selling for about $100,000 less than we are into it. Nothing is selling in the high end market around here....The home is beautiful appointed, staged and turn-key and we have had little to no interest. Yes, price is VERY important but very few people are able to be in a move up situation in the higher price range...I also don't know that we feel victimized, we do wish that someone would give us fair market value, it seams everyone buying is looking for a screaming deal or they're not interested.

4:43pm • #52

I Guess I'm a victim.... I had 6 - 10 transaction sides a year in the UP MARKET.  In a good market, EVERYONE wants to be an agent I guess.  We had over 8,000 agents here in the San Antonio, TX area for 2007. In 2009, I think it was closer to 6,000 or so.

In this market, I turned 24 sides for 2009.  The worst time in our recent history.... I guess the part-timers all went "back to work".

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Hello Jill,

Yes that may at first feel like a broad stroke.  Two years is a long time for certain. But even in the high end of the market, if 700+ days on the market is unheard of, well that only tells me a few things. Way over prices from the start, and you are only walking down market while it sprinted away. Just look at the graph again. Look at some of those downs. I did not make up the data. Plenty of sales. The problem too often is that some brokers are just too soft to lay it out in fear of loosing a listing. If you had three agents give you an opinion of value when you listed, I am certain you will had three different opinions. I just hope you did not go with the one that promised high and now every time they call you know why... we need a price reduction again.  Ask yourself, had you priced your home where you are today, would have you sold.  No staging, no matter of marketing is going to get a buyer to pay a $1 more than they should. And if you do not believe me, even if they did, unless they were a cash buyer, there is still the appraiser that must feel what the buyer feels.  I feel your pain. We have areas of Boston that are up 5 - 10%, while less than a mile away, the average property lost upwards of 50% of its 2005 value.

Today, I am suggesting Sellers order an independent appraisal to set the listing price. I would even be happy to reimburse them for their cost when they close with me as their listing agent. Otherwise, I need to move on.

5:07pm • #54
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John,

I bet you wish that percentage of agents from every office would go back to work. I too have considered it. It's either time to Change or Die.

5:11pm • #55
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Mark - Great post!  Congrats on being featured in the ActiveRain Mail!

10:50pm • #56

I agree with much of what you discuss Mark.  How much of an effect does active marketing and promotion by the real estate professional have on the ultimate sales price?  Getting the listing is one thing, and matching the "market" is often not the best way to sell something.  What do you see the real estate professional doing to actively promote their listings to increase value?  Thanks for your comments. 

11:41pm • #57
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10
2010
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Great post - soooo true, thanks!

11:03am • #58
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Well said.  Wishful thinking does not sell houses.  Nice post.

11:35am • #59

Lot of great post, But one problem that is hard to overcome, Is in the last ten years or so, People bought Real-estate for a short term Gain, Real estate is and should be a long term gain. You buy a house, two years later you get a inflated appraisal refinance, then couple more years you decide to sale. You are upside down, it is not that house prices have fallen. It is that the false economy we have been living in has caught UP. People need to come to grips, that they may have to pay out of pocket to sell there house. They forgot that most have pulled there profit out already. And I do not blame the listing agent. To many buyers agents out there beating up sellers. You can market a house all you want. If after ten people look and you do not have a offer, then you need to fix up clean up, lower the price, or move the house. I am loosing a listing this week, been on market for 6 months, Ever week someone has shown ed that house. I told my sellers in the beginning we were 15 k over price. But they had a appraisal that said. &&&&  My point I did my job, I got agents to show it.

11:46am • #60
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Mark,

I couldn't agree with you more. In the current economic downturn noone is being singled out. Unfortunately there are agents that will take a listing at any price, no matter what the market shows. That in and of itself gives sellers false hopes, but not only that then they start wondering why the rest of "us realtors" aren't showing their homes. The fact that their agent took it above market, even if they gave an adequate presentation of what the listing price should be, doesn't seem to enter into their thinking. Unfortunately there will always be those sellers that think their home is better that the market will support, and those agents that will take a listing, for the sake of having "a listing" at any price. The rest of us just have to deal with the realities of the market. and, at least we will always have those overpriced listings to show our customers, before we get them into the market valued properties.

5:29pm • #61
JAN
11
2010
2 Featured Posts

Let's all just lie down and rollover, it's too much trouble to stop it, right? Luckily the consumer is tired of the Doom & Gloom and they're not listening to it as much therefore the Doom & Gloom headlines aren't selliing anymore. People are looking for more optimistic news about the market and I'm seeing many more positive news stories in the media everyday.

11:54am • #63
JAN
12
2010

I agree with Ed that "They are victims due to the fact that they did not create this situation".  Real estate has always had it's ups and downs but I am seeing some properties selling for prices w have not seen since the 1980"s.  Our unemployment here is nearly 15%, and the trickle down effect is hurting not jus home owner but businesses as well.  Every day I see more closed up stores, gas stations and offices.  We do seem to be steadying for the moment and some jobs are slowly returning but it will be some time before home prices begin to go back up.

10:59am • #64
JAN
13
2010
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I just turned down a 1.1 million dollar listing for this very reason. The home is owned by an Realtor who is going inactive and wants to transfer the listing on her home to another agent in our company. She is convinced that with luxury marketing and big buyer incentives, it will sell for close to her asking price.  She is every bit of $500,000 overpriced. As one agent put it on another blog, "you can buy an airplane banner ad, fly it over the entire state and if the property overpriced, you won't even get a phone call." I'll add to that, "you can have the best SEO on the internet and an overpriced listing won't attract a phone call."

8:14pm • #65
JAN
15
2010
186,349 Points 2 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Well said Mark. The secret to marketing a home is to have the right price to work with.

11:27pm • #66
JAN
16
2010
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Val

I tell people this all the time. What are YOU doing to get your home sold. We stage homes and they sell faster and for more money. If buyers are willing to put a little into presentation they will see the result...big time!

10:14am • #67
JAN
19
2010
113,681 Points 4 Featured Posts

You go, Mark! Houses sell in any market. The seller and the agent has to adapt to the market and take advantage of it the best way possible. Period. If you can't stomach the price don't go on the market.

9:14pm • #68
MAR
18
2010
1 Featured Post

Good advice Mark! I could not agree with you more.

11:31pm • #69

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