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84 Comments on FHA has lifted the 90-day seasoning requirement!
I do not think 20% is a realistic number. Often the homes will need more than 20% in repair. Even if they let you document you expenses. and up it 20% above purchase and repair work. What if they do the work them-self. They will not get to count there labor as an expence. Then if they sell with a Realtor who charges 6% that just leaves them 14% profit.We you subtract there holding cost from that it will not give them a profit margin that is worth taking the risk.
Stopping back again....so glad this was featured, this is something that can make a real difference for my buyers.
When I initially read the news, I too, was worried about the 20% limit on these properties, but there is more to the news as seen in the comments that followed. I have learned not to panic until I have all the facts. Obama is trying to help improve the industry with new lawsm but everything is complex. I want to wait and see how it works before I judge it as a problem.
20% limit could be waived with two appraisals.
Thank you for sharing the information. My favorite phrase is "the devil is in the details"
Good post -- Everyone should have read the HUD release before commenting -- the 20% limit seems very "gray" and as long as you can document improvements the 20% rule will be a non factor --
I agree with Mike O' Hara. I also understand the view point of so many of you, but these new guidelines are designed to help bring home values back up, not to keep things as they are. When an investor purchases a property and has docs to support the rehabbed home value the property will be appraised for more and will be allowed to be re-sold for more then just the 20%. And You can still flip homes but if they are over 20% the lender will have to comply with strict guidelines. It is actually going to help flip more homes if you ask me. I plan to buy several and create a small empire!! :D
I know some rehab investors that this is going to make them very happy.
It looks like a big press release about nothing. The 20% limitation will make this an ineffective move.
20% plus cost and improvements would be more realistic.
Thanks for the insight. It will be interesting to see how this actually plays out in the market, escpecially here in Woodbridge, VA
The 20% cap looks like it will limint the options. But, there seems to be a workoaround with appraisals & documentation. I think if you can prove your point to the Lender, they will / might make the loan.
It's going to be interesting to see how this works in the real world!
Two appraisal is not the panacea still. It's a lot of pain in practice.
I'm right now in escrow for 2,5 month, we are waiting on the 3rd (!!!) appraisal, because the second came ridiculously low, way below ugly comps, All the comps are REO houses, we're selling turn key flip at the same price as trashed REO and couldn't get 2nd appraisal. When some appraisers see "flip" this is like red tag, I had 4 back up offers while we've been in escrow, all above the accepted offer. Isn't that a sign that the house is worth what we're asking for it?
I am glad somebody is doing something to keep things moving. We lose a lot of buyers because of the time element. Now that the first-time-homebuyers tax credit is going to expire in April, a lot of folks are hesitant to get tied up for months at a time.
I say, If the seller can show proof of the work done, and the immediate market can justify the value with Two appraisals, then the 20% cay should not be there... If these two factors cannot be proved then I understand the reason for the limit....we certainly do not want to repeat what we just went through with the Real estate market...
This is indeed great news for potential new home buyers and investors. Thanks for sharing.
I had heard about this but did not catch the details. The 20% cap sounds like another great socialist program out of Washington.
I think its a good idea, there are guidelines for the waiver designed to prevent fraud. I see lots of conditions for the loan officer to gather.
It is about time abeit for a limited time. Flipping is not what got us into this mess. A buyer should be able to pay what a seller is willing to take and a bank is willing to loan.
What happened to capitalism.
A 20% limit is socialism.
Most properties need 20% improvements.
Expenses are nearly 10%, in and out of a 'flip'
Where's the profit?
Thank you Dave for the info. However, the more the government gets involved the more problems they create. The same people who are making the decisions now are the same individuals that created the problems in the first place.