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WOW! WHAT A DIFFERENCE A FEW MILLION RECALLS MAKE!

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

I took my Toyota in for regular service this a.m.

THE PLACE WAS PACKED - - THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT, THAT IS.

I'm sure everyone has heard the news by now:SUV

"about 2.3 million cars are affected by the accelerator pedal could wear down and become difficult to depress, slow to spring back or get stuck partly depressed.". . more,  NY Times Business.

I've checked several sources and my 4Runner is apparently not affected.  Thank goodness.  However, up until November 2008, I owned a Toyota Sequoia that did have accelerator malfunctions.  The accelerator would often not depress as it should and it wouldn't go over 15-20 m.p.h.  This was clearly unsafe in intersections and when changing lanes, among other situations. 

I took the vehicle to Toyota and after keeping the vehicle for 2 days, declared it had "no problems". 

Sure, no problem when the vehicle wouldn't accelerate from a stop sign or light and go smoothly through an intersection.  I considered the vehicle unsafe but after 3 visits, the dealer(s) and 2 repair shops couldn't find any problem.  Sure, sure.

I didn't want to drive the vehicle.  So, the last time I retrieved the Sequoia from service with a "clean bill of health", I walked 40 feet to the sales department and traded the Sequoia for the 4Runner on the lot. 

Mmmmm.  That was 13 months ago. Too bad the recall wasn't published then.  I suppose Toyota was just stonewalling me.  Not a problem.  I drove it for 2 years and found it uncomfortably large.  So, I wasn't sorry about trading it. 

You just never know what to expect from a business these days. 

Do automobile dealerships have a Code of Ethics?

 

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Comments(20)

Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I was happy to see my and my husband's models were not on the list too.  I love my highlander.  It has the feel and gas mileage of a car and yet I still am sitting up high enough to feel safer and where I can see good.  (I'm a shorty) so even long legged clients fit behind me quite comfortably.

Jan 29, 2010 05:47 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Tammy.  One of the reasons I have driven SUVs since the last 1980s is for the comfort of my buyers.  Lots of leg room in the back seat and seats that keep folks upright and avoid back fatique. 

Of course, there is the matter of driving a truck, 4X4, sitting high and seeing ahead, overall safety and cargo space.  Works for me.

Jan 29, 2010 05:53 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I had the Toyota soccer mom van for years with three teenagers I just had to have a van, but it never felt quite right.  Although I do from time to time miss all that cargo space.

Jan 29, 2010 06:20 AM
Ann Allen Hoover
RE/MAX Advantage South - Hoover, AL
CDPE SRES ASP e-PRO Realtor - Homes for Sale - AL

I have a 1998 4Runner and haven't checked to see if it is on the recall list.  I figure as old as it is surely any problems would be apparent by now.

This reminds me of a VW Bug I had many many years ago.  The accelerator pedal was a little sticky, and I would drive it barefoot so if necessary I could curl my toes around it to pull it up.  I had long ago forgotten about that craziness!

Jan 29, 2010 07:11 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ann.  HA!  I had a friend with a Green Hornet that had the same problem.  That was in the 1980s.

 

Jan 29, 2010 07:50 AM
Lana Robbins Realtor ® Licensed Real Estate Broker
Aloha Kai Real Estate - Clearwater, FL
Licensed in Florida, Washington, and Hawai'i

Hi Lenn. I have a Landcruiser and a Dodge Ram. I do not like small cars. Fortunately my Landcruiser isn't on the recall list. ~ Lana

Jan 29, 2010 08:11 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Lana.  I don't like small cars either.  The Sequoia was really too large.  I kept "clipping things in parking lots and my own garage. 

The 4Runner is a fabulous vehicle. 

So far.

Jan 29, 2010 08:16 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Lenn, as a fan of Toyota & Honda for many years, I do give them credit, that they did it themselves and recalled all these cars. The other auto makers usually wait till the government regulators step in. I personally drive a Lexus RX330 and it is a great Real Estate vehicle for signs and clients. Not too big yet luxurious. I agree they also should create a Code of Ethics such as NAR.:))

Jan 29, 2010 10:58 AM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

Never mind ethics.  I don't think we would kill our clients with lack of them :).

Jan 29, 2010 03:58 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Endre.  I rode in a Lexus once, a loan officer's vehicle.  Luxurious indeed.  I prefer driving trucks.

Jane.  Indeed.  I like driving a safer vehicle.  I never worried about the matter of "roll over" for SUVs because I believe that those were caused by excessive speed going around turns.  Of course, Ford did have a suspension defect which they tried to hide for over a couple of years.  Sad, sad.

 

Jan 29, 2010 08:08 PM
Jackie Connelly-Fornuff
Douglas Elliman Real Estate in Babylon NY - Babylon, NY
"Moving at The Speed of YOU!"

Hi Lenn, I had bought a brand new Hyndai Elantra Wagon in 2000. It would stall at 50 mph. I brought it to the dealer and they said we'll take you in, in 3 weeks. I said no and that I'm still under the lemon law and I want a new one or you fix this right now! And I yelled this out in the middle of their showroom and when they saw people walking out, they fixed my car right then and there. I only had the car 2 weeks at that point and it was dangerous to drive.

Jan 29, 2010 10:53 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jackie.  Good for you. 

I thought my Sequoia was unsafe too. 

Jan 29, 2010 11:23 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Lenn all I can say is be CAREFUL. Who knows what can happen in a situation like this. This is going to kill Toyota's business.

Jan 30, 2010 10:38 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Bill.  So far, there is nothing reported on the 4Runner.  Nor have I experienced any problems. 

With the Sequoia, I did experience problems, defective acceleration.  However, Toyota refused to "find anything wrong". 

At that time, 14 months ago, I just wanted to get rid of the dang thing.  I didn't want to drive it. 

One thing for sure.  There can be no more trust in the word of Toyota than in Ford when they stonewalled the matter of the rolling over Explorer.

I don't believe a word that any of them say, anytime, anyplace about anything.

 

Jan 30, 2010 10:52 PM
C. Lloyd McKenzie
Living Albuquerque - Albuquerque, NM
Living Albuquerque

Lenn, you made a very good decision then, and I think you are spot on with your follow-up observation. "I suppose Toyota was just stonewalling me." These companies only respond to liability lawsuits

 

Jan 31, 2010 05:06 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

C. Lloyd.  Indeed.  Actually, I would have made more noise had that particular defect been known.  This was last November before the present gas petal sticking was in the news. 

I thought that perhaps the problem was in the transmission since I had recently had the transmission fluid changed.  I was wrong. 

It was a defect not yet made public.  I would bet a dollar to donuts thought that the guys at Toyota that claimed that there was nothing wrong knew of the defect.

Oh well.  I'm just glad I got rid of it.

 

Jan 31, 2010 05:16 AM
David Dee
RMX REALTY - Alhambra, CA
Real Estate - San Gabriel Valley (L.A.) & N. Orang

From the desk of David Dee,

Lenn, when I heard about the recall news that was quite alarming. I don't have a Toyota but I used to drive a Honda. Very good car which had mileage of up to 250k before I sold it. It's a good thing Toyota made a concerted effort to recall and resolve this problem.

Jan 31, 2010 04:30 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

David.  Agreed.  Sad though that they stonewalled the matter until about 21 persons died as a result of the sticking accelerator.  Sad too that the matter of the sluggish accelerator, such as I experienced, was simply ignored and swepped under the rug. 

What infuriates me is that, after being a loyal "Buy American" for decades, I finally went to Toyota because the American automakers had become so smarmy. 

Where do I go now???  The only viable American auto maker is Ford.  However, I have vivid recollections of Ford executives lying, stonewalling and causing the deaths of Americans because of the rollover problem which, eventually was traced to suspension defects. 

Where to go.  I have 24,000 miles on my 4Runner.  I haven't kept autos for many miles in the past 5 years or so.  I wanted to trade them before they began repair problems.  I drove a Chevy Blazer for 275,000 miles but when I went to the Trail Blazer, it was one problem after another. 

Where to go????  Where to go?????

Jan 31, 2010 08:07 PM
Carol Culkin
Diamond Partners Inc - Overland Park, KS
Overland Park Residential Real Estate

Lenn - Wow! Ever wonder if the new owners of your old Toyota had any problems?  It's amazing that they didn't trouble shoot this sooner.

Feb 01, 2010 02:42 PM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

I really enjoy reading your archived posts Lenn Harley - hope you are doing well - might we see you back in the 'Rain some day?

Nov 20, 2017 04:02 AM