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How to lose your shorts when listing a home for sale, it is not a short sale!

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Services for Real Estate Pros with Buildalegacygroup #01089189

A recent listing went on the market up the street from my home.  As most curious homeowners do you want to learn what the asking price is to gauge where the market is headed or how that home compares to yours etc...    

Well this home was priced well below market it's coming up "Short".  No it is not a short sale, but it is priced like one!  (Short sale = A home sold by the bank at a price below what is owed to the bank).  I began to wonder if the Realtor had weeded out the short sales and REO's (Real Estate Owned or homes taken back from the bank) or other "Non arms length transactions in determining the "Asking price".  Although these sales should be taken into account they typically should not be used to determine the asking price unless they are the predominant sales transaction in your market

In other words, you should not lump these sales in on your CMA's, they will skew the numbers unintentionally and you and your clients will be taking it in the shorts.

As an informed seller, one of the questions you should ask your Realtor is: "Mr/Mrs Realtor when you were determining an asking price (CMA) for my home.  In your analysis did you weed out these types of transactions?"

I personally experienced this when I refinanced my home recently.  The Appraisal came in low, I asked for a copy of the report and found the following: 

Mistake #1 the lender used an Appraiser unfamiliar with our market, he was based an hour and a half away. 

Mistake #2 he used a sale on the same street that was a below market sale and hung his hat on it, because it was the closest to my home.  This is a good practice in normal circumstances but what the appraiser failed to recognize was that it was "Truly" a distress sale and the owner had to sell it at a fire sale price.  Two of the sales he used were REO's  One of them was a home I had recently Appraised myself.  I knew everything about it.

I know what your saying "Well he's an Appraiser of course he knows this, but I (Homeowner) am not, how could I possibly know what is an REO sale or not?  Here is one way to determine this, look up the home and find out who the seller is?  In most cases it will be a bank that is named as the seller. 

Mistake #3 county records in our area have many inaccurate lot areas posted in the property information .  When you match up this information with the plat maps (Plat maps = Lot dimensions and where it is located) there are huge lot area differences.  He was comparing homes with half the lot areas as mine.  I pointed out all of these discrepancies and rebutted the report.  The lender sent out another appraiser and came back with a market value estimate which was notably higher.

My point is this, have you made changes to adjust to the changes in the market?.  Are you doing your homework when your during your CMA's.  If your not, your not only doing a disservice to your client,  but you are negatively impacting your own market and livelihood.

I know most (Realtors/Appraisers ) do this as part of their analysis. I suspect this new listing may have not.  You as an informed  homeowner armed with this knowledge/information should not lose your shorts when listing your home.

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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Good information.  I had to fight a $340,000 sale in one community where I listed a town home for $400,000.  I knew the sellers of that house had made a bad mistake and my seller believed me.  We fought one appraiser who "hung her hat" on the $340,000 sale and let that contract go. 

We finally got one at full price and when I met the appraiser at the house, he understood completely and accepted my comps even though some were 6-8 blocks away. 

If you know your market and know how to value real estate, stick to your guns.  My seller thinks I'm a genious and they gave me a $1,500 bonus at settlement.

Jul 14, 2007 01:52 AM
DDR Realty
DDR Realty - Newburgh, NY
Orange County NY
Lenn, I had a similar situation. I had to actually provide my own comps to the bank to dispute the initial appraised amount. As a result, the bank increased the appraised amount.
Jul 14, 2007 02:13 AM
R. B. "Bob" Mitchell - Loan Officer Raleigh/Durham
Bank of England (NMLS#418481) - Raleigh, NC
Bob Mitchell (NMLS#1046286)

Appraising is an art, especially in this market!  I've got a couple of listings right now that the comps say should be priced aggressively, let they are sitting.  If I got a contract, I could get them to appraise no problem, but if they are really worth that much, why aren't customer's offering anything close?

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

Jul 14, 2007 03:36 AM
Pablo Santibanez
Buildalegacygroup - Santa Clarita, CA

Lenn,

I could not have said it any better Lenn.  This is the key to your success and any Realtor for that matter "We finally got one at full price and when I met the appraiser at the house, he understood completely and accepted my comps even though some were 6-8 blocks away."

In this Market (I'm talking about California) You don't leave your sales "Livelihood" to chance that they (Appraiser) will get it right.  You deserve every penny because you did what most do not.  It is very simple those that are successful in this business "Do" what others do not.   You provided the facts "Good useable data" to support your position.  The outcome proves your efforts paid off.

Jul 14, 2007 05:46 AM
Pablo Santibanez
Buildalegacygroup - Santa Clarita, CA

Derrick,

You also served your client well in supporting your value dispute with facts "Comps".  The outcome proves your data was better than that the Appraiser chose.

Jul 14, 2007 05:53 AM
Pablo Santibanez
Buildalegacygroup - Santa Clarita, CA
Your right Bob Appraisal is an art.  It sounds like you are in a depreciating market.  New sales are selling for less than homes sold a month or two ago.  There are so many factors that come into play as to why this is happening in your market.  It boils down to supply and demand.  If there is too much supply and low demand prices will suffer.  Even though comps support a higher value you may need to price more competively to get results.
Jul 14, 2007 06:09 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

as a mortgage lender i'm not going to use an appraiser who's 1.5 hours away.

all real estate is local.

frankly i only use 2.

one was a realtor for 5 years before becoming an appraiser and has been an appraiser in my market for five years.

the second also has 5 years in the business and is located across the hall in my office complex.

i have total faith in their ability in our complex market (southwest florida).

 

Jul 14, 2007 07:10 AM
Pablo Santibanez
Buildalegacygroup - Santa Clarita, CA

Jay your right

 "All real estate is local" that is why you have an advantage over your competition.  I could not believe this national lender used an appraiser 1.5 hours away.  This is the result of many lenders trying to cut costs and "manage" the appraisal process.  You shared two good points about appraisers you use.  It is those "relationships" you have built along the way that is the key to success.  When you leave these decisions to "management" the issues arise because people/businesses are treated as a commodity. 

 

Jul 14, 2007 07:53 AM