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New mortgage fraud by big banks.

New mortgage fraud by  big banks.
 
Short Sale in Gilbert, Chandler, Scottsdale

In order for a short sale with two loans to happen, the second lien holder has to drop the lien.

If they don’t, and there’s no short sale, the home goes to foreclosure and the first lien holder gets the house because second liens are subordinated debt to the primary loan.

In short, the second lien holder gets nothing. In order to get the second lien holder to drop the lien, the first lien holder generally negotiates some partial payment to the second lien holder. The second lien holder doesn’t have to agree, but more and more are doing so.

That’s all legal.

But here’s what’s not legal and what’s apparently happening quite often recently. Since many second lien holders are getting very little, they are now allegedly requesting money on the side from either real estate agents or the buyers in the short sale. On the side means in cash, off the HUD settlement statements, so the first lien holder doesn’t see it.
 
And some agents are doing it to get the transaction closed, with probably very little awareness that is a RESPA violation.

RESPA is the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, the 2008 law requiring that consumers receive disclosures at various times in the transaction. It outlaws kickbacks that increase the cost of settlement services. RESPA is a HUD consumer protection statute designed to help homebuyers be better shoppers in the home buying process, and is enforced by HUD.


Source: By: Diana Olick , Jan 15, 2010

 

 

Kim Espinoza
Realtor, United Broker's Group, Arizona - Chandler, AZ
Connecting Arizona Buyers and Sellers

Unfortunately, I had a second lien holder try this exact thing.  They said they didn't care who paid for it or where it came from they had to have $6500.00.  The first lien holder authorized $1000 to go to the second. After going around and around the buyer walked.

We received another offer and this buyer offered to pay the difference on the HUD as an expense- still giving the approved sales price and netting the first what they wanted.  The first wouldn't hear of it. Told us that only $1000 can show on the HUD going to the second.  Well, now the second buyer moved on and my seller has decided to file bankruptcy. It is a shame, he truly had a hardship, was an owner occupant, took care of the property and tried to work with the banks.  The result.....now several creditors will feel the impact of this unsuccessful short sale.

Feb 11, 2010 07:32 PM
Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI

Interesting, we do not have a lot of short sales here in my market and I did wonder what was going on with all the latest reports of some bank fraud in short sales.

Feb 12, 2010 12:37 AM
Anonymous
cat brooks

Here is a bigger story about mortgage fraud in one of the hardest hit areas of the county.  http://momvssuntrust.blogspot.com/

Can anyone help me?

Feb 12, 2010 06:40 AM
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John Cannata
214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com - Frisco, TX
Texas Home Mortgage - Purchase or Refinance

There are many more lenders agreeing to the Short Sale, which is good for the consumer but is hurting the secondary lien holders. Some are just being more demanding and/or asking for more money so they dont lose as much. Like you said, if they dont agree to it and the 1st lien holder goes to FCL, then the 2nd will lose out on all of their money.

Feb 12, 2010 11:22 AM
Megan Izdebska & Hanna Manoufar Chandler, Scottsdale Real Estate Agent
United Brokers Group - Chandler, AZ
Double Commitment. Double Results.

Kim,

It is very dramatic situation for many homeowners, For the Banks-not really. The bottom line is NET. They are not vey interested in homeowner's hardship. Sometimes I am asking myself why do they even require "Hardship Letter" in short sale package?

 

Feb 17, 2010 03:17 PM
Megan Izdebska & Hanna Manoufar Chandler, Scottsdale Real Estate Agent
United Brokers Group - Chandler, AZ
Double Commitment. Double Results.

Cat,

Unbelievable!! As far as I am aware of SunTrust Mortgage happily operates in AZ.

Feb 17, 2010 03:27 PM
Megan Izdebska & Hanna Manoufar Chandler, Scottsdale Real Estate Agent
United Brokers Group - Chandler, AZ
Double Commitment. Double Results.

John,

Basically the second lienholder is always on worse position. Unless there is enough equity. But it does not make it right to demand and  not to disclose payoffs on a HUD.

Feb 17, 2010 03:30 PM