Where did all the money come from that fueled the sub-prime lenders?

The simple answer: Wall Street. But what does that mean?

Every year our money supply is greater than it was the year before. This is called inflation. Inflation is NOT an increase in price level, it is an increase in the money supply. The Federal Reserve Bank (the "Fed") is charged with managing the money supply. If the money supply were to "contract" which is the opposite of grow it could lead to Depression. We absolutely don't want a Depression. Therefore the Fed causes or allows (however you want to look at it) the money supply to grow.

All this money needs to go somewhere. If you get some of it you will undoubtedly spend it. I know this is true because we have a "negative" savings rate. We don't add to our savings year-to-year. Eventually all this money finds its way into the accounts of major financial institutions. They traditionally park this money in the bond market where they receive interest based on the riskiness of the particular bond issue. Mortgage-backed bonds have shown themselves to be good investments over time for these funds.

The sub-prime mortgage market was simply an extension of this use of "surplus" funds.

The money supply is still growing. As a matter of fact it is growing faster now because with higher interest rates more money (from Europe, China, etc.) is coming home.

Read all about this chart at http://agonist.org/bernanke_opens_the_floodgates_of_money 

All this money has to be "invested." Idle money is not productive. That is a cardinal sin of the nation's money managers.

So what can we expect?

I don't think that we can expect a repeat of the S&L crisis. So far we have lost some mortgage banks. Some might even say a lot of mortgage banks. But these aren't "real" banks in the traditional sense. They do not have depositors. They are not insured by the FDIC. They are just "companies" as far as the banking regulators are concerned. Another company more or less is no big deal.

There is still a "ton" of money out there that needs to be employed. Mortgages are still a good "bet" for the money managers. Sub-prime lending will be back with a vengeance. Some say it never went away. The rules will be a little different. The riskiest loans will disappear. Sub-prime will be meshed with Alt-A. Calling it something else doesn't make it something else.

 

 

 

15 Comments on Sub-Prime Meltdown - Is It Really?

JUL
17
2007

I totally agree, Bill.  The lenders would not have the programs if the investors were not hungry for more loans.

Of course, I have developed my own conspiracy theory about the situation, because the remaining sub-prime lenders are now owned by Wall Street or monstrous banks.  The independents (i.e. the Goliath that was New Century) are gone.

The investors will get hungry again - sub-prime will be back!

Gareth Bourriague - Benchmark Mortgage - Baton Rouge, LA

1:58pm • #1
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Gareth, thanks for your comments. I didn't realize that New Century was all the way gone.

Now I have more research to do.  thanks a lot!

Bill Roberts

2:06pm • #2

Yes, as of May 4th.  My wife was employed there.

Check this site out:  http://ml-implode.com

It has information about the companies that have "imploded" - 99 of them since the end of '06.

2:15pm • #3
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Interesting take.. I remember in the 80's when the Japanese were buying up California and everyone was worried  we would soon be speaking Japanese.. then the commercial markets crashed and most companies wound up with buildings in foreclosure..it will be interesting to see what happens in the current market as many overseas cinvestors find our properties to be cheap compared to real estate in their home countries..
2:36pm • #5
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Hi Kaye, It's hard to imagine someone in Manhattan Beach talking about "cheap" properties.

Bill Roberts

2:51pm • #6
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Bill, Great post!  Now if we could only get the media to do a story on things like this instead of the doom and gloom, sky is falling, mortgage scandal of 07.  They love the sensationalism that is not in the facts but in horrible bits and pieces of the facts.  I am not saying we don't have problems but I believe that the media is keeping some buyers on the bench because of uncertainty.  The sooner they get in the game the quicker we can start a turn around! 

By the way you are banging out some huge points!!  I like it!

5:32pm • #7
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Hey Rey,

I'm just trying to keep up with you.

Bill  Roberts

6:04pm • #8
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Bill,

Subprime market just got carried away in the last few years because the institutional investors were hungry for the yields the mortgage-backed securities offered. But subprime market serves an important sector of the real estate market and is here to stay. Lending guidelines are going to get somewhat tougher, but that's it.

6:05pm • #9
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Hi Esko,

Well, it seems great minds think alike.

Bill Roberts

6:09pm • #10
AUG
03
2007

Bill,

I want to think that sub-prime is going to stick around, and for that matter ALT-A. In light of market developments this week, do you still think that they will?

Tom 

10:52am • #11

Bill,

I want to think that sub-prime is going to stick around, and for that matter ALT-A. In light of market developments this week, do you still think that they will?

Tom 

10:52am • #12
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Tom,

It gets down to what we see in the future for our economy overall.

I see INFLATION rearing its ugly head. The Fed needs to move on this. If they do then rates will come down. Mortgage Securities are still very profitable for "funds" to hold to maturity. Loss mitigation needs to be "refined" a little bit. If all this happens, and our economy stays strong then a "new" sub-prime and Alt-A market will emerge. I don't know what they will call it. The demand is just too strong to be disregarded.

Bill Roberts

P.S. If rates come down a smidge and demand goes up a smidge then defaults will probably subside. The money masters at the Federal Reserve have to know this.

11:52am • #13

Great insight, Bill!  (Subscribed)

You're correct - the demand is too great, and investors normally have short-term memory loss!

11:57am • #14
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Gareth, that's what I like, re-inforcement!

Bill Roberts

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