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A few days I wrote an article about the National Association of Realtors® taking a stance and adding to
their Standards of Practice the verbage "don't give out the lockbox code!".   While reading and commenting
it reminded me of something that is taking place with HUD owned homes:   The locks are re-keyed with
the same HUD key being able to open any HUD home in my area. 

This past December I had another buyer client purchase a HUD home.   Thankfully, she was a cash buyer
so closing happened relatively quickly (Start to finish 30 days).  One of my (and her) biggest concerns during
the process was the security of the home post offer to the time it was legally hers.

Here are a couple of things that you can do to protect yourselves prior to closing on your HUD owned
home
  and changing the locks:

Take extensive photos prior to making an offer on the home and make sure the photos are dated. (Extensive means take photos of each room, close ups of the appliances, water heater, furnace,  plumbing system, etc.)

Take more photos during your home inspection and once again, make sure they are dated. 

Ask a neighbor or two to keep an eye on it.  We did this with Ashleys home.  I gave a neighbor my card and asked him to call me if he spotted anything amiss.  He was cheerful about helping as it is his neighborhood also!

Babysit the homeAsk your agent to stop by the home frequently to check and make sure everything is as it should be.  I stopped by the home every 2-3 days to peek inside.  We're out and about anyway, to  pop in only took a few minutes out of my day. 

Have a final walk through.   I cannot stress the importance of this.  If you can manage it, have it just prior to closing.  With Ashleys home we met at the house at 7:15 in the morning to look it over once again just before we drove to the 9:00 closing.   Anything can happen the night before closing and you wouldn't know if it you had your walk through a day or two before.


If you do all of the above you will be much more successful in getting HUD (and it's designated agent in your area) to repair or replace anything should anything come up missing or vandalized prior to your closing on the home.





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43 Comments on Babysitting a HUD home: Things you and your agent can do to protect *you* while waiting to close on your HUD home.

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Good tips for agents. I usually ask a neighbor to keep an eye on the house when my listing is a vacant home.

6:19am • #1
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Kris,

Excellent advice for protecting the client.  Foreclosures are too often looked at as "open to the public."

7:21am • #2
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Gita,   Thank you :-)   Asking a neighbor is always wise.  Most of them will care about what happens to their neighborhood and are more than happy to help.

Mike,   Yes they are often perceived that way, and that's why many of them are stripped or vandalized.  I'm always nervous for my buyers until they close.

7:32am • #3
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Kris

Some excellent advice as usual!

keep up the good work

your friend in Charlottesville Virginia!

9:15am • #4
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Kris ~ Great point! I never really thought about this. Thanks for sharing!

1:30pm • #5
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Great idea Kris, I wonder how many agents do this.

I showed one, wrote an offer last night on the Mcbreo site.

We didn't get it.

It has no kitchen, no baths, no furnace ( I froze while in there) no H2O heater, no copper, and some duck work missing.

The bid was posted today, 3K over asking price.

My team member also bid on it 30K over my offer, he didn't get it either.

7:37pm • #6
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Great idea Kris, I wonder how many agents do this.

I showed one, wrote an offer last night on the Mcbreo site.

We didn't get it.

It has no kitchen, no baths, no furnace ( I froze while in there) no H2O heater, no copper, and some duck work missing.

The bid was posted today, 3K over asking price.

My team member also bid on it 30K over my offer, he didn't get it either.

7:38pm • #7
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Kris, good points. I had one the other day that I took pictures of in the intial walkthrough so they could compare to the final walkthrough the day of closing.

7:38pm • #8
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Kris,

Outstand points to protect your client's interest. Almost no cost either.

Rich

7:42pm • #9
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Good advice.  I've got one under contract now that is a total rehab.  I had one a few years ago where I went to check on it and noticed that someone had broken through a back window.  I called the M&M company and they had someone come by and board up the window and secure it.

7:47pm • #10
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Kris,

 

These are some good ideas you've listed. I always do a walk through, even with equity-sellers. You just never know.

7:47pm • #11
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Hi Kris -- Good info.  While I understand the convenience of a HUD key, I don't like the concept.  I'm okay with an eBox/iBox that can be traced, turned off during nighttime hours, etc., and I know that is not always practical.

7:52pm • #12
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Good advice. I do not quite get the whole, rekey the same concept. It seems like such a security risk in so many different ways. I think these practices that you listed would be good for any vacant property you are representing as a REALTOR.

7:54pm • #13
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I have had nothing but good experience with HUD. Some of the best deals availble - IMHO.

8:00pm • #14
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Those are some good points, and some more good reasons to hire a great buyers agent willing to go that extra mile.!

8:29pm • #15
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I had buyers that were 2 days away from closing. We did the final walk thru to find out the 2nd floor was flooded.  ALWAYS do a final walk thru, preferably as close to closing as possible. Needless to say, they backed out.

8:32pm • #16
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Taking alittle more time to follow these tips can prevent trouble down the road that could take alot more time and possibly money.

8:43pm • #17
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Great tips!! I think it will apply to any foreclosure or a HUD home.

9:04pm • #18
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Kris, This is a well deserved feature!  I don't think most people think of taking photos or asking someone to keep an eye on the home.  Great advice and a blog to bookmark.

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In order to get the "The Key" one must pass muster. Your points are good advise. I find many HUD homes a great deal for my clients

9:05pm • #20
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Sounds like a good idea when buying any foreclosed properties.

9:11pm • #21
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These are great points. HUD homes are always risk because pf the fact that so many agents and vendors have access. Thanks!

10:12pm • #22

Great Blog! So true! I know agents in my area that routinely give buyers the loc box combinations to REO properties, they don't even go with them to the house! Yes they are REALTORs, and they are in the top 10 in Connecticut.

Thank you for taking the time to post this, I would not have even thought about the pictures et for the proof at closing that the property was in the same condition as when they wrote the offer.

10:45pm • #23
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Hello Kris, these are all very good points to ponder. Thanks for sharing. We don't see many HUD homes in our area, so it's great to hear about best practices.

10:46pm • #24
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Good advice to help your buyers protect their HUD home prior to the closing.

11:14pm • #25
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What a great idea Kris... Photos with dates canbe very helpful as for the condition of the home.

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Taking photos and noting serial numbers (if there are any to note) is a good idea.

12:11am • #27
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Kris,

Must-do advise nowadays. Especially here in Vegas with so many foreclosures and vacant properties on the market. Taking pictures will save many a day.

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Great advice on Hud homes. Sad but true these days an ounce of prevention is definately worth a pound of cure.

1:40am • #29
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Great advice for HUD homes but also good advice on any home...  In this day and age the homeinspectors are not very busy and usually can get to the home in a matter of days after the contract is signed...  If thie home does not close for six weeks - it is amazing what can happen!

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Hi everyone, thank you for taking the time to read and comment.   Normally I would respond to each of you, but I would sound repetitive on this post with the "thanks!  Glad you found it helfpul!".  This was clearly one of those "hope it informs" articles for you and your buyers.   I'm happy it was featured so that more of you could see it and reblog it for your outside blogs.  

A couple of things that I got from reading your comments:

I always take close up photos of the appliances, but have never tried to snap a photo of serial numbers. What a great idea!

Michele (above) mentioned an issue she had with a HUD home that was found at the walk through.  It's why I stress that a walk through take place.  If your buyers can't be there then by all means you do it for them.  An ounce of prevention..and all that jazz.   Pam (above) also mentioned a home that was a "total rehab" but still had more damage between offer and closing.  Document, pick up the phone, and keep checking on them!

An aside to Missy, I see so many of them have accepted bids for well more than asking price.  On the flip side, many are also priced right at market value, so the "overbids" I just don't understand.  Seems like some people are overpaying, but then again, the value is in the eye of the beholder.

 

 

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This goes for Fannie homes too on the master key!  I have had stuff stolen or homes vandalized in the last hour and it is SO frustrating!

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This is great advise for REO properties as well.  An accepted offer is not the same as a closed sale. A picture speaks a thousand words.

7:23am • #33
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This is great advise for REO properties as well.  An accepted offer is not the same as a closed sale. UA picture speaks a thousand words.

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This is great advice.  Thanks for sharing!

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I started my real estate career selling HUDs in 1989. It looks like I may have to bobe up on my education again. Thanks for the tips. My memory of HUDs in Oklahoma is that you get a universal key that anyone can copy, so security for HUDs is non-existent. I know too many agents that give their keys or copies to buyers especially investors.

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Good advice for any home, but especially important on these!  I often do a video walk through at time of offer to document condition when I suspect we may have issues, but usually to make sure the seller left things, didn't ding things on move-out, etc.  Note to self to do this absolutely for ALL homes!

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Invaluable advice. Taking dated photos was a great idea that may seem like unnecessary work, until you need them.

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I frequently sell HUD homes and this is a major concern here, too.

12:27pm • #39
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I knew a HUD listing agent that videotaped the property and made comments as she was going through each room, as a 'voice over'

1:23pm • #40
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as a HUD listing agent I am amazed at how many buyers think I am crazy when I show up after they move in - and ask if they changed the locks (when they are not my buyers) they generally respond no - and when I explain that they should have been informed of the key situation and I would like to pick up the key they are dumbfounded and thankful

12:16am • #41
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Hello Kris,

Terrific tips for HUD homes & protecting buyers.  So many people have access to HUD homes.  Thanks for the good advice.

Chris

 

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Great tips!  We are doing the  home inspection on one today and will make sure and take the camera with. 

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