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EQUATOR SYSTEM - ARE BORROWERS THAT COMPUTER LITERATE?

By
Real Estate Attorney with THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY

The "Equator System" is now in use by Bank of America and GMAC. Touted as a simplistic system to get short sales moving though the lender's system, is it really just an automation method that removes the human decision making element and makes our clients just a jumble of numbers?  Also, how many of your clients are trainable to learn the computer system so they can enter pages of data and create Adobe PDF files of their financial backup material and then upload it to the Equator System?

I am going to take a fast guess and say that as to the second question, about 60% of my clients can "learn" the way to sign on to the Equator System. BUT of that 60%:

            -  50% can figure out how to enter the information on the Equator System forms;          

            -  30% can figure out how to scan and upload the files;

            -  50% have a scanner;

            -  70% of those that have a scanner don't know they do and know how to use it. 

Oh yes, of the 40% that can't learn how to sign on to the Equator System, 25% don't have a computer and never had a computer.

It occurred to us today that to make proper use of the Equator System, we will end up having to act as the borrower's agent to get the password and sign on to the system to enter all the information.  Since we are already uploading this same information it seems duplicitous but maybe it will get streamlined as the lenders get used to the software.

But the real headache is that the borrower is ill equipped to learn the Equator System. Most borrowers have a job, maybe two. They just have the time, much less the computer knowledge to learn a pretty unforgiving software program.

So, where will the computerized short sale program take us?

Perhaps it will make processing faster - since much of it will be done by computer: Does the market value vs. price qualify; Does the borrower have sufficient disposable income to service the loan; Does the borrower have assets that can be liquated to share in the lender's loss; Is there a true hardship.  I hate to see these decisions being reduced to zeros and ones.

Perhaps the software will slow up the system because of the difficulty the borrower will have entering the information into the lender's computer.

In my office we are offering to do the additional work for the borrower for a small additional fee to cover our labor cost.

At least one of my gripes is being addressed:  If a lender says they will entertain a short sale, then it should do exactly that.  When lenders take 8 months (my most recent Suntrust approval - at least they apologized for the long time it took!) for a short sale response, they really should not even be entertaining short sale prospects at all - it is a deceiving to the buyer and the borrower and the brokers working hard and uselessly waiting on the lender's response.

Copyright 2010 Richard P. Zaretsky, Esq.

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Ray Wright
Keller Williams Realty - Riverside, CA
SoCal Realtor - A.L.C. - Company Trainer & Coach

I've heard nothing good about the new Equator system.

I like your idea about charging to do the borrower's side too.  Good idea

Feb 17, 2010 04:39 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Richard, I've been hearing lots of complaints about Equator.  Doesn't seem to be making the process easier at all.

Feb 17, 2010 10:30 PM
Anonymous
Carmen

I had to teach myself about the system, however if you are inquisitive and just keep opening all the links it takes you to tasks that need to be completed. I am computer savvy, so you are right about knowing something about computers. I do know that my success at this point is due to my insistence on having all documents scanned into my computer ahead of time. I start acquiring all documents need for the shortsale from the Owner as soon as I get the listing. When I get a buyer, most of my documents have been scanned in and sitting in a folder on my desktop. I have learned so much, I think I could teach anybody how to use it. In fact, I am putting together a manual for my office on how to use the system. By the way, I am an assistant to the Realtor, I do not have a license. But I am learning so much by working with this system. I had to create forms and checklists and research everything to make my job easier. Good Luck everyone. At least with this system, you can see the progress and know what stage the sale is in and most important, you know they got the documents, you attached. I have one question, How many times have you faxed the bank with your deal? I could make my training manual available for a fee, interested?

Feb 18, 2010 01:29 AM
#3
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

Richard - We won't enter the seller's information into Equator.  IF they cannot do it, they can come into our office to do it.  There are about 40 personal financial questions that must be answered.  One error in a keystroke could cause a short sale to be denied, or worse (where my imagination takes me).  The other problem is that sellers are NOT efficient.  They slow down short sales when they delay entering their data.  I love working for the banks, don't you?

Feb 18, 2010 10:31 AM
Maya Thomas, Broker
Tampa, FL
Please see my client recommendations.

I can NOT imagine a single one of my sellers following through on their own and getting all of the information in the system without me sitting next to them helping them every step of the way so I might as well do it all by myself.  Seller's are so stressed out to start with.  This just frustrates them more and makes them walk to run away screaming from the short sale.  If you handed them an envelope a seller would throw the keys in it and lick the envelope.

It can take a month just to get the financial documents and paper work from a seller.  Then we enter and enter and enter.

This is my version of Halloween IIV.

Feb 19, 2010 11:55 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Richard,

I am not familiar with the system. Thanks for the  information. I guess we will end up baby sitting with our clients and help them along the way.

What else can we do?

Feb 21, 2010 06:21 AM
Anonymous
Rebecca Hollingsworth, F.R.P.

BOA finally sent a password and link to begin this process.  The page does not exist or can not be found.  The BOA person at the Short Sale department was clueless and would not even report techinical issues with the site.  They did send a different password.  Results the same -- page does not exist.  Then I decided to view www.equatorsystem.com --- took me to a list of domains for sale... FUN FUN.  Another way to remove the human, fire persons, and let a computer decide without the ability to determine if data is correct or not.  Wonder what the system cost them to have installed.  Sure it was paid for by the "taxpayers"  who do not know how to use it.  The banks are just trying to extend the issues to position them to get more money that they do not deserve.

Feb 23, 2010 02:24 AM
#7
Cameron Novak
The Homefinding Center - 1000 Palms, CA
Real Estate Broker since 2008

The great part about the Equator system...

If you lose your current buyer.... Bank Of America is nice enough to let you start the ENTIRE PROCESS from the beginning (even if you already have a full approval).

thanks B of A.

Mar 10, 2010 06:14 PM
Anonymous
Tanna

I'm hoping someone can come up with just a smidge of light to this nightmare! My husband and I are the buyers of a short sale home.  The listing agent just told us that all the info was just entered into Equator.  I'm reading all these different comments about Equator.  Can my husband and I sign into Equator to see updates or is it only the sellers and the agents??   Anyone know the answer to this?

Also, once the info has been entered into Equator, what is the average time frame from that point?  Is it still that lovely 120 day crap or what?

 

Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM
#10
Amy Ransdell
Southeastern Realty Group - Kennesaw, GA
Atlanta Short Sale~Short Sale Daily News

Love your post.  Equator does have its advantages but it also comes with HEADACHES!  Like Wendy, we have the sellers come into our office.  We can knock off a few birds with one stone and be certain they they get their tasks done.  Many sellers cannot upload / scan their docs in.  Plus, most do not know how to convert to pdf format, are too stressed out,  etc.... We do it for them (with their approval of course).

We would love to have you sit in on a webinar our short sale newsletter is hosting - www.ShortSaleDailyNews.com  (sorry...but, I know you would be a great contributor)

According to a Bank of America neogitator, the number one reason for short sale processing delays is failure by the homeowner to complete their on-line tasks!

To everyone's short sale success!

 

 

May 11, 2010 10:08 AM
Richard Zaretsky
THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY - West Palm Beach, FL
Florida Real Estate Attorney

Amy - give me a call

www.florida-counsel.com

 

May 11, 2010 12:05 PM
Anonymous
GUS

I am the seller of a short sale condo and Bank of America has approved a short Sale, Cash offer from a buyer.  My realtor has used the Equator system, which seemed to work fine.  ONly thing is that I rejected the offer because BOA wants me to pay a deficiency judgement of $13,000. What should be my next step.  I am sure that the bank does not want to drag this into a foreclosure matter .

 

May 12, 2010 05:03 AM
#13
Richard Zaretsky
THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY - West Palm Beach, FL
Florida Real Estate Attorney

Gus

You have a problem because BoA will simply NOT vary from their stock letter that says they may pursue a deficiency.  On the otherhand, if they are offering you a set sum that is less than the actual amount you owe, you should consider whether you can pay that or need terms or maybe they will reduce the amount to meet you ability. 

Getting BoA to set a lesser payment amount is somewhat of a coup!

May 15, 2010 01:29 AM
The Somers Team
The Somers Team at KW Philadelphia - Philadelphia, PA
Delivering Real Estate Happiness

Finally after 4 months waiting for an update on Equator (the system that was supposed to make my year long short sale negotiation move along faster and with greater efficiency) the negotiator challenged our offer with a counter and a deficiency judgment. We countered: Buyer won't come up in his price (the value is not there to support an increase in his offer) but seller agreed to accept the full deficiency and come to the table with money! BOA had the guts to counter with the identical counter they gave us over a month ago. Basically saying they will not not negotiate.

I am convinced they are without a clue, saboteurs of the most despicable kind, and they are making a mockery of the banking industry.

Now the seller's attorney who I have not spoken to in a year is questioning my role in this process. I have to laugh at the depth of ridiculousness this particular sale has revealed to me.

I have one thing to say to BOA - KARMA

Jul 05, 2010 07:23 AM