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Whither the consumer? Are we listening or are we too busy pushing our message?

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Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605

phoneOne of the things that always gets to me is when agents talk about cold-calling as if it is some sort of test of "character."  Really?  When did being what the vast majority of the public considers an irritant become a test of character?   Seriously, the public has made itself abundantly clear on this issue.  They don't want phone solicitation.  They don't like phone solicitation.  In fact, the issue reaches beyond phone solicitation.  For a long, long time, the public has being saying quite simply that they wish to be left in peace and that if they need our services, they will reach out to us.  

In a recent blog -by Gabrielle Rhind,  "Oh Tell Me WHy Can't This Be Love?!" the author was recounting a particularly rough morning of cold-calling.  Lenn Harley quite rationally asked "Why stake yourself out?"  suggesting (as she often does) that  people practice "pull advertising" over "push" advertising.  The response was that cold calling expireds "builds character."  While I'm sure that the response was well intentioned - my gut reaction was  "Huh? "

What about what the consumer wants?   Do the needs and desire of the potential client to be left in peace factor into this in any way?  You see, I don't feel sorry for someone who sets themselves up for the type of hostility this blogger encountered.  They knew going into the cold-calling session that there are many who deeply resent having their day interrupted by a sales person.  The target in this case was people with expired listings.  Most expireds are bombarded with phone calls and have every right to be annoyed by the tsunami of calls clogging up their day and their voice mail.  It's not surprising that the response might be less than cordial.

Personally, I find the persistence of cold-calling surprising since it is pretty obvious that  "the people have spoken" on this issue.  Nowhere is public sentiment more apparent than in its response to the DNC list.   When the US DNC list became available - Americans signed up in DROVES.  76% of the American public  eventually signed on to the DNC.    When it was time for Congress to renew the DNC, there was no question as to whether it would be renewed.  Renewing was a win- win - and was one of the few issues in which right or left-leaning everyone was pretty much on the same page.  In Canada, demand was so high, the first day the DNC was available,  the server couldn't handle the volume and crashed.  Americans LOVE the DNC list  so much that they are  clambering for "do not mail," "do not email,"  "do not fax,"....well you get the idea.  The bottom line is this: the public has pretty much given us a big resounding "NO!" to solicitation in general.  In fact, the public is pretty much saying "LEAVE ME BE!" loud and clear.

How we came to this state of affairs is no mystery.  Just a few years ago, I was not in sales and was part of the masses that were "just saying NO" to phone solicitation and most other forms of what Lenn Harley refers to as "push marketing."  What had started out as a minor annoyance had rapidly become a tidal wave of advertising invading everyones home, email, voice mail and every other aspect of  life.  As sales competition increased everyone started trying to shout above the "noise" creating ever more "noise" in the process.  As people felt increasingly  stalked and as marketeering seemed to invade every corner of people's lives, the public got fed up and eventually became infuriated by the bombardment.  As the public sought to shelter itself from the barrage, the undaunted marketeers just kept dialing up the volume to counteract  the attempts to escape by using clever mechanisms such as auto-redial so the phone would ring again and again and again until someone would pick up.  I was in grad school in the years immediately prior to the DNC - often working 16 hours at a stretch. I would get home to find my voice mail FILLED - almost every single night.   There were usually two-three legitimate messages from family and friends followed by about 17 solicitations along with several hang-ups from marketeers dialing again and again.  Later I'd get calls from family saying they couldn't get through because my voice mail was filled. Day after day of this and I had had enough.  The minute the DNC was available, I signed on and heaved a sigh of relief. 

iPadSo, what to do if you have a product or service to move?   Well, we might just try to  LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC and respect their wishes.   To gain market share, it will be increasingly necessary to  provide the public  with information that they can access  - or not - as they choose.  Write blogs with rich local content.  Yes, it takes a long time in some areas to start "sticking."  But those blogs are gifts that keep on giving long after they were posted. I've had inquiries about blogs written months and years before.  Get in gear with social networking and get your blog/web site out there in the open.  Work with your SOI and publicize your on-line presence like crazy.  That's where people who are truly interested in buying or selling are beginning their searches.

For those who say cold-calling leads to a fatter wallet - I have my doubts.  The number of people they antagonized by this activity may be more of a hinderance later on than they think.  They may have gotten results by getting a couple of the more vulnerable prospects to sign on. Instant gratification is great.  But like a bowl of ice cream - it may feel good now, but the pounds that are added later aren't such fun.  The trouble with cold calling is that no one can know  how many people were left with a bad taste in their mouths.  How much future business did these agents cut themselves off from? 

This is about a paradigm shift.  The public has made itself clear. They don't wish to be bothered.  They want to be able to research the services they need in peace and quiet.    Further, the technology now exists for the public to do just that.   Think iPad not telephone and you are probably on the right track. Let them find you by offering a superior on-line experience.  If you are have the right content available on-line and if you publicize and SEO your site then you are on the right track. It may take some time to get established in this way.  It certainly is not the instant gratification of snagging a listing from a cold call.   If what you offer fulfills their needs then the public  will come to you.  Instead of ringing their phones, we need to get them to ring our phones.

 

 

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Vickie McCartney
Maverick Realty - Owensboro, KY
Broker, Real Estate Agent Owensboro KY

Hi Ruth Marie~  I really love the picture of your dogs.  They are beautiful!  I do not like it when I receive unsolicited calls, so I do not make cold calls either! 

Feb 23, 2010 02:44 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

If there was ever a time that the public would be at all receptive to cold calling it wouldn't have been called cold calling. 

Feb 23, 2010 02:46 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Karen,

I've got a feeling that many agents are ignoring the DNC when it comes to Expireds and FSBO's.  I HOPE not, but I keep hearing about them calling these people.  Most of the US is truly ON the DNC. In our area its well over 90% - so who these people are calling unless they are indeed ignoring the list, beats me. 

 

Hi Denise,
I think takes time to grab a foothold blogging and with social media. In the meantime, many trainers poo-poo blogging which makes it tough for the newer agent. I was told by many that it "wouldn't work at all."  That's pretty scary. Then they push cold-calling and door-knocking and "getting back to basics." Well...its hard for a rookie not to listen to that from people who have been around for years.  Also, there is the risk that blogs won't take off. You need very good content for it to work well.  That's  an issue because not everyone creates that kind of a blog.  In our area - you really have to have great content in order to "stick."  So there is risk and a very long wait to see results.

Feb 23, 2010 03:42 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Richard,

Well - for those who were wondering - there you go. People are indeed ignoring the DNC.  I didn't see how it could be productive in our area without disregarding the DNC - but I was still hoping that agents were complying.

 

Hi Jeff,

Are you using your phoning and  door knocking to direct traffic to the internet site?  Just curious as to whether you are combining the two.  I opted out of doing this during the early years.  But, Im from an area where people would be very resentful.  I do have a feeling location matters. 20 miles out of NYC - people are pretty much working 24/7 and don't want any solicitiation.  From my own farming areas - I have to say at least 90-95% are on the DNC.

Feb 23, 2010 03:50 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Richard,

Well - for those who were wondering - there you go. People are indeed ignoring the DNC.  I didn't see how it could be productive in our area without disregarding the DNC - but I was still hoping that agents were complying.

 

Hi Jeff,

Are you using your phoning and  door knocking to direct traffic to the internet site?  Just curious as to whether you are combining the two.  I opted out of doing this during the early years.  But, Im from an area where people would be very resentful.  I do have a feeling location matters. 20 miles out of NYC - people are pretty much working 24/7 and don't want any solicitiation.  From my own farming areas - I have to say at least 90-95% are on the DNC.

Feb 23, 2010 03:50 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Richard,

Well - for those who were wondering - there you go. People are indeed ignoring the DNC.  I didn't see how it could be productive in our area without disregarding the DNC - but I was still hoping that agents were complying.

 

Hi Jeff,

Are you using your phoning and  door knocking to direct traffic to the internet site?  Just curious as to whether you are combining the two.  I opted out of doing this during the early years.  But, Im from an area where people would be very resentful.  I do have a feeling location matters. 20 miles out of NYC - people are pretty much working 24/7 and don't want any solicitiation.  From my own farming areas - I have to say at least 90-95% are on the DNC.

Feb 23, 2010 03:50 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Richard,

Well - for those who were wondering - there you go. People are indeed ignoring the DNC.  I didn't see how it could be productive in our area without disregarding the DNC - but I was still hoping that agents were complying.

 

Hi Jeff,

Are you using your phoning and  door knocking to direct traffic to the internet site?  Just curious as to whether you are combining the two.  I opted out of doing this during the early years.  But, Im from an area where people would be very resentful.  I do have a feeling location matters. 20 miles out of NYC - people are pretty much working 24/7 and don't want any solicitiation.  From my own farming areas - I have to say at least 90-95% are on the DNC.

Feb 23, 2010 03:50 PM
David Dee
RMX REALTY - Alhambra, CA
Real Estate - San Gabriel Valley (L.A.) & N. Orang

From the desk of David Dee,

Ruthmarie, I think it depends on how one likes to generate business. Online marketing may be the way to go but the traditional style does pay off as well as I have experienced that myself.

Feb 23, 2010 04:34 PM
Leslie Ebersole
Swanepoel T3 Group - Saint Charles, IL
I help brokers build businesses they love.

I don't answer my home phone unless I specifically recognize the caller's name. I can't imagine hiring an attorney or stockbroker off a cold call...what would that sound like? "Hi this is Alan with Aggressive Attorneys here in town. Are you or anyone in your family planning on a divorce in the near future, or maybe you're thinking of a malpractise suit? Well I'm here to help". Yuck. Thanks for your well written post.

Feb 23, 2010 04:38 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Ken,

This was in response to another post on the subject.  When I said I didn't like cold callers and would hang up on them, the poster - who couldn't understand why people didn't like her cold calls - asked me why I was so angry????  Since she also couldn't understand why expireds who were probably being carpet bombed with calls were angry - this isn't surprising.   Weeellll - if you don't respect people's time and space, its going to leave some rather annoyed.

Coming from outside the business - I have to say that agents don't get a lot of respect in the professional world.  My attitude towards anyone who solicited in this way was that if you need to this to get business - find something more useful to do!  Obviously, no one really needs waht you are hawking or you wouldn't need to badger people.    If we come off as too pushy, too salesy, if we use a string of letters like alphabet soup to say we specialize in EVERYTHING,  then no one should wonder why we get a black eye.

Hi Coleen,

I think we all make those calls - they are the warm calls. People we know and know will support us.

Hi Ron,
But does it create more problems later on.  I remember cold-callers and remember NOT to use them for business.  This is particularly true when you are targeting someone like an expired who is getting flooded.  They may take down the names and remember NOT to use them.  One listing could cost you 10 later on.  The public is pretty much fed up with in-your-face marketing.

Feb 24, 2010 07:35 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Lane,

Do you truly think it does hurt you?  The question that really can't be answered is how much future business does cold-calling cost.  Since people like you and me don't like cold-callers - then how much harm is that cold-caller doing to themselves?  No way to objectively measure - so we can only guess. However, given the enormous success of the DNC list - it is safe to assume that cold calling will cost the caller some future business as well as bring it in.  The ratio would be a mystery.  Also, there appears to be no demographic that dislikes cold calls more.  NY is sort of a "get out of my space" kind of place - but I don't picture GA to be that way. So you can't really filter who minds and who doesn't.

Gee - I guess I could do an irritating cold-calling phone survey to try to find out!  Don't worry, I wont' call you!

Hi Sherry,

You and me both.

 

Hi Melissa,

I've been getting that too.  I actually had a couple of FSBOs advertise their property on my subdivision and condo blogs!  WOW!  phone numbers price points and all!  I'm also seeing some spammers on AR doing this quite regularly - which is a concern.  I'm pretty strict about people not linking back to a specific blog unless it makes very good sense to do so.  One person linked back to a post about a home they were selling that they got from a cold call.  I asked them to delete it because it looked like they might be trying to boost the hits on the blog to impress the seller...whatever - Another person was trying to hawk their site - I deleted that and reported it.  I've gotten mean about it because it happens too often.

Feb 24, 2010 07:48 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Tammie,
I think one of the reasons they are so "rah, rah" about it is that it does set them apart.  The trouble is that the DNC - if obeyed - makes it nearly impossible around here and I wonder if people are really keeping to the list.  The fact is, that cold-calling is less and less acceptable and they will have to make a switch - I think it scares them - but the sooner they make the change the better off they will be.

Those who just want to push, push, push - may be in for a rude awakening.  That sort of thing really isn't working any more.

 

Hi Vickie,

How is everything?  The dogs are getting good press - people like the pic!  Jade and Tundra like to do everything they can to help the business. After all - they need their supply of dog bones to remain intact.  I didn't think you were the cold-calling type.  You built a model with hard work and over time.

Feb 24, 2010 07:53 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Phil,

Good point - LOVE the new pic...Charlie Brown...my favorite was "The Great Pumpkin"

Hi David,
But for how long?  This type of marketing is getting less and less acceptable to the public.  At least that's what I see around here. NYC area is different - I'll grant that.

 

Hi Leslie,
Alan with aggressive attorneys!  Hilarious I love it!  Yup planning your future divorce,death or accident!

Feb 24, 2010 07:57 AM
Tim D. Wilson - The Horseman's Agent ™
HomeSalesLexington.com @ Rector-Hayden: Lexington, Kentucky - Lexington, KY

Hi Ruthmarie,

  You did a heck of a job writing this!  I even read it twice, looking for even one word that I did not agree with.

  I do not like being on the receiving end of cold calls and knocks on my front door, so why would I turn around and subject others to me doing it?  I just don't get it.

 You had a lot of great thoughts, but this one is my favorite:

 "Let them find you by offering a superior on-line experience.  If you are have the right content available on-line and if you publicize and SEO your site then you are on the right track. "

 Well said, Ruthmarie.   Good luck! 

Search homes for sale in Lexington with equine horse farm and foreclosures at HomeSalesLexington.com/barn in Kentucky

Feb 24, 2010 10:23 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Tim,

Horseman's agent!  That's great.  You are in the right state for that too!  LOVE your header.  Let me know when you start blogging.

Feb 24, 2010 02:59 PM
Tom Davis
Harrington ERA,DE Homes For Sale, $$ Save $$ Buy Today ! - Dover, DE
FREE Delaware Homes Search!, $$ Save $$ - Find Homes! Delaware Realtor

Great food for thought!

The telephone has been well known to be a sales tool and that's why the Do-not-call lists were developed in the first place.

Thanks,

Tom Davis

Feb 27, 2010 03:59 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

You are welcome Tom....

Feb 27, 2010 04:01 PM
Kate Elim
Dockside Realty - Spotsylvania, VA
Realtor 540-226-1964, Selling Homes & Land a

Hi Ruthmarie...Very few of us like getting calls and e-mails from people trying to get our business.  Why would we think others don't feel the same way?  Mystery to me.

What the heck do they think the No Call List is for? 

This sure deserved to be featured.

Kate

Mar 21, 2010 05:17 PM
Gary Swanson
Century 21 Harris & Taylor - Grants Pass, OR

Ruthmarie.  I don't like receiving cold calls, nor do I like making them.  With so many people using the Internet, it seems this is a much better way of making contact with potential clients than making cold calls.

Mar 21, 2010 05:19 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Kathleen,

WOW the proxy errors woudn't let me into my own post today!  I really don't get it either.  The fact that so many signed up right away says A LOT!!!

 

Hi Gary,

I think this method takes a long time - but it is worth it.  It might depend on where you live...for me it took a good while. But it is helping now.

Mar 22, 2010 01:23 PM