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Buyers Agreements... Thats my topic.

So... I had these clients, key word being HAD. I worked on them for MONTHS. They are investors looking to "flip" homes withing 12 months after renovating to a tune of about 20% of what the purchase price is, then selling it 20 to 30% above total investment. All within 12 months. 1 stinkin year. It may sound simple, but in todays market in Vancouver Wa, it's a large feat to say the least. Long story short, I find the PERFECT renovation home on a FULL acre for under 180,000, and in this area could easily be updated and flipped for 300. I take them to it. They love it. They call in their other investor partner - the one who does the work. He loves it. It is now 7:30 at night, I have been there for OVER 2.5 hours at the same house, and I am tired and would REALLY like to see my family. They all decide that they are going to talk to their lender first thing in the morning, and we will put an offer in by noon the following day.

Noon, the following day rolls around and I can't get in touch with any of them, 3 in all. I am programmed in their cell phones, I am tied into all their e-mails and practically their best friend after all these months. Next day, 3 messages later, nothing. But the darn house is pending. (Oh, Darn would NOT have been my word of choice) To this day I have not received a return call, an e-mail, or a simple "thanks for your time". But I did notice they closed just recently and used the listing agent instead.

Lesson Learned?? Buyers Agreement ALL THE WAY! I still haven't gotten all my current clients to sign them, only because I feel bonded somehow with them. Naive? Yes Probably. However all new clients are signing or nothing! I have now been burned and it still stings!

Are they standard in everyones practice? What is the best way to approach the subject? How would I get my current clients to sign them without offending them? Advice is soooo welcomed!

Dawn Workman
Veracity Real Estate Group, LLC - Camas, WA
Camas Real Estate Expert, MBA, 480-540-8100
That is horrible. Thank you for your time, how insulting!  I am glad you learned your lesson, and won't have to go through that again!!
Jul 20, 2007 04:59 PM
Mary Warren
Las Vegas, NV
They closed on the house you showed them FIRST?  Was the owner also an agent?  Does your MLS show who the listing and selling agent are?  YOU have procuring cause...I have one almost identical to this one.  It's scheduled to close next week...owner is an agent...I showed to buyers...I used lock box AND wrote a contract that was rejected by owner/agent and the buyer went straight to (or is it the owner/agent contacted the buyer somehow???????) and wrote a contract....I'm going after these guys for procuring cause.  Do you have proof you showed the house?  Did you keep notes?  I've been on Grievance Committee and Professional Standards...in my opinion, buyers agreement or not, you have a case!  Of course Washington could be different than Nevada in laws....check on it!
Jul 20, 2007 05:28 PM
Joe Zapata
Keller Williams Realty Media World - Burbank, CA
Your Burbank Real Estate Expert

About half of my clients sign them but they are usually the ones that I have to travel a decent distance to work with.  I have never had anyone be offended by the idea of signing one and all do with ease.

In todays market I am making it more of a point to pursue it even for my local clients but have not enforced it as of yet.

You may have cause to go after the comission on this one since you did show them the property.  Just food for thought.

Jul 20, 2007 05:30 PM
Darrel Quebedeaux
Evergreen Realty & Associates Inc. - Newport Coast, CA

No substitute for an agreement but there will always be the snakes trying to take advantage.  Anytime there is money on the table people are subject to reverting to their lower self.

Sorry to hear of this but I wish you better luck in picking the clients you want to work for.

Jul 20, 2007 08:11 PM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate
Make it your standard to only work with someone if they sign a buyers brokerage agreement. It is a great qualifier. If someone is unwilling to sign, you know 2 things. First, they do not value your service, and second, you probably would not have made money with them anyway.
Jul 20, 2007 09:47 PM
Gerry Banister
RE/MAX Showcase Homes - Beverly Hills, MI
MBA

Did you ask them if they wee wroking with another agent, or had a buyer agency agreement with another agent?  IF you did and they said no, you are the procurring cause and I would certianly go to arbitration.  If for noe other reason than to claim an ethical violation by that other agent.

Jul 20, 2007 11:24 PM
Deb Hurt
Realty Pro Albuquerque - Albuquerque, NM
ABR, e-Pro,Green, TRC
I have had  similar experience. I now work as a buyer broker only so if people want to work with me they have to sign the agreement. Does it lmit my business? Yes. It eliminates the people I would spend a lo of time with and then have them do something like this. I like that limitation!
Jul 21, 2007 04:06 AM
Yvonne Brown
Century 21 Northwest - Gilbert, AZ

It's sad and disgusting that people think it's ok to do this! I support the idea of making clients sign an agreement, but I don't thik it's a step I'm ready to take yet. I signed one once as a consumer and it was the worst relationship I'd ever had with a realtor because I felt as if the contract was this cloud over us. It was such a horrible experience for me that I won't do it. Stupid? YES! But I'm sure I'll change my tune once I have that happen to me!

Jul 28, 2007 11:46 AM