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Appraisal Institute says Zestimates suck..

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The Appraisal Institute says "Zestimates suck, " No,  actually they are a lot smarter than that. Thomas A. Thomson, PhD,  Daniel R. Hollas, PhD, Ronald C. Rutherford, PhD did the study reported in  Appraisal Institute -  Zillow’s Estimates of Single-Family Housing Values  and they say Zestimates (an AVM or  Automated Valuation Model) are inacccurate.

Did you read all 7 pages before commenting that you could have told them Zestimates are inaccurate?    I skimmed it.  I can use it to get to sleep tonight.

The study said  Zillow's Zestimates are not accurate.   The Appraisal Institute Study  came out last week and  according to a blog post on Matrix,  by Jonathan Miller Appraisal Journal Study Cites Flaws In Zillow AVM the report says Zillow is less accurate than your average homeowner?

Actually the Appraisal Institute says:

" The use of Zillow.com to provide an estimate of housing value does not appear to be as accurate as owners’ estimates of value that several studies have documented. For example, Kiel and Zabel find that, on average, homeowners overestimate the value of their homes by 5.1% and new owners overvalue their homes by approximately 8.4%."

Zillow's response...  John Cook writes:   Zillow disputes academic study which questions Zestimates

Zillow says  it is old news?  Old data... The Appraisal Institute's academics are looking at old data... they used  2006 and 2007 (Zillow was born  in early February 2006, I believe.)

Have Zillows powers of Zestimation improved since 2007? 

On Matrix Miller writes about the historic anti Zestimate bias in the real estate industry among agents and appraisers for different reasons.  Also he says of Zillow "Perhaps they were more guilty of overhyping the reliability of their “Zestimates” in the early days by presenting value estimates precisely down to the dollar. But hey, it was cool to see how much your neighbor’s house was worth."

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Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

Interesting post Maureen,

I've always thought of the zestimate as a gimmick. "You gotta have a gimmick". It worked for zillow they've become a popular real estate website.

 

Mar 03, 2010 11:18 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

It's a great gimmick, Zillow is a very popular site.

Mar 03, 2010 11:40 AM
Gregory Bain
Mezzina Real Estate & Insurance - Little Egg Harbor, NJ
For Homes on the Jersey Shore

Gimmick? Our trade organization is about to unleash the same nonsense. In my opinion, the NAR has become a little bit too buddy buddy with the gang from Zillow.

Having said that, I think my zillow zestimate on my house is on mark. And, I used the zestimate a lot in my area to show home owners that I was not the only one that didn't think their house was worth the inflated bubble idea they had gotten into their head.

I guess its the site I love to hate.

Mar 03, 2010 12:07 PM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate

I haven't even read the post yet.  Skipping down here to note that as possibly the funniest title I've read on AR to date.

Mar 03, 2010 12:28 PM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

LMAO at Paul! 

Can you say, 'Told you so?' ;-)  We've been battling this for quite some time here--our neighborhoods are so close together, have similar names and have sections that are completely different in value within one neighborhood--they've lumped them all together so that those who live in $200K homes look like theirs are worth $500K and those that are worth $750K also look like they're worth $500K!  It's so frustrating when the sellers actually believe this!

Zillow has many wonderful aspects that buyers love and sellers love to see their homes there as well.  I just wish they would do away with the Zestimates now that they've captured the market they were trying to capture. 

One other thought-- We have appraisers that live 20 miles away, who have NO idea how to compare the properties they're appraising, so how does Zillow think they can figure it out thousands of miles away?!

Okay, I'm done!  Have a great Thursday Maureen!

Mar 03, 2010 01:20 PM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

I think the "Zestimates are interesting and perhaps helpful for homeowners who haven't a clue on pricing in a given area. (But then for those who haven't a clue they might be dangerous)  I wouldn't price my--or any--house with one.

Mar 03, 2010 01:42 PM
Steve Shatsky
Dallas, TX

Hi Maureen... Just a thought, but I think the more accurate way to state this is "Zestimates Zuck!"

Mar 03, 2010 02:42 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Thanks all for the comments.

Paul I blew it... see Steve's comment.

Greggory You are funny.  Isn't RPR going to be competition for Z rather than getting buddy buddy with Zillow.  Did you get my email the other day?  You do love to hate Zillow...

Debe I can't imagine Zillow would ever  do away with Zestimates.  Woud they?

John Infotainment?

Steve I missed an opportunity there!  I am tweeting your headline though tomorrow....

I fell asleep with out reading the 7 page study but am awake so I need to read it now.  I just wonder why they used 2006 2007 results rather than 2008 and  2009 results.

Mar 03, 2010 06:19 PM
Rob Hatchett
Crye-Leike - Chattanooga, TN

amen!!

May 19, 2010 04:53 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Zillow is the love to hate site of the decade for real estate agents, appraisers!!!  Jonathan Miller refers to them as a punching bag for agents!


May 19, 2010 05:28 AM