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Maybe Dateline NBC should do an episode on mortgage advertising and the fine print at the bottom of the commercial. You know, the print that is small and doesn't last more than a few seconds. Yes, that fine print. I was inspired to write this because of a comment from Jeff Geoghan, who said that perhaps I should do a HBO series on "desperate loan officers." 

Are you starting to see more TV advertising since the market has slowed down?  What does this mean sometimes. It can mean that some companies need more business. And who pays for these commercials?  The consumer does in one form or another.  

I am seeing commercials from Countrywide, Bank of America, Di Tech (owned by GMAC)and local companies in my area. These commercials will use little marketing ploys just to get the phone to ring. Some will rename a program that every lender in America has just to make themselves stand out and sound like they have reinvented the wheel. Here are some of the hot topic commercials as of now :

  • Di Tech --  They state that smart people know what they are looking for, hence why they should call Di Tech. Alright, a good way of making the consumer feel smart and important.
  • Countrywide -- The no closing cost loan. No title fees, no bank fees, no closing costs, etc, etc  Sounds like a deal that you can't pass up. Sounds free. But wait, free?  How do they make money?  Do you ever see them advertise a rate with this?  No and for good reason. You really don't qualify for such loan. You could, but the rate is higher to absorb these costs mentioned.
  • Bank of America -- Their loan is called the no fee mortgage plus loan. Exact same concept as Countrywide's program. They even state on their on-line commercial that why should you pay for mortgage insurance and extra fees. And when I go to their on-line system to give me a rate for these no cost loans, the rates are a little higher.

One thing to remember here. Can some people obtain some of these loans. Yes, there is a possibility, that's if you qualify. What are their qualifications? Very strict, probably not less than perfect credit friendly. And sometimes these specific programs come with conditions. Maybe a credit score?  To pay for these costs, maybe that you have to use their title company, etc, etc.

 

So Jeff, what should I look for? Who should I believe? Of course this is not always an easy question.  Not only should the loan officer be asking you questions, your goals, but you should ask some of your own. Get a feel for the person that you are talking to. Get quotes in writing, which is called a good faith estimate. (GFE)  Sure, this doesn't always mean that it will be correct or accurate.

 

Conclusion :  It's okay to shop, but stick with referrals. If you have gone through this process once before and you had no complaints, go back to that loan officer. At least give them a chance to try and compare your current offer. You might be surprised what this person finds out, since we know what to look for. Or ask for a respected referral from friends, family, or co-workers. Even talk to your realtor about this.

I am not stating that it's bad to shop. Just be careful in what you see and hear. Be very leery of key words.

  • I promise
  • I guarantee
  • No problem
  • fast and easy
  • and one of my favorites, don't worry 

Besides, as I stated once before, who is paying for these so-called commercials?  And Kurt Jackson makes some good points here. Mortgage Advertising: What a Joke!

 

 

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Disclaimer : I am not trying to talk negative about the lenders mentioned above. Just using them as examples. The main issue at hand is do your homework and ask questions. Get someone else to review the information for you.  All of this is my opinion based on 14 years in the mortgage industry.

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24 Comments on Mortgage Advertising -- Is it like a scam?

JUL
25
2007
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Jeff,

That's what I have been waiting for, I thought my opinion of these banks was just me, congrats to you for bringing up a very good topic and great points, such as work for free, come on who are they kidding!!

Great job,

Tom Weiss

11:36am • #1
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Jeff,

I just remembered one more thing, also the one that say "Trust Me" I never trust someone who says trust me.... what are you trying to prove, if your honest your honest...

Tom Weiss

11:39am • #2
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"I am not stating that it's bad to shop. Just be careful in what you see and hear. Be very leery of key words.

  • I promise
  • I guarantee
  • No problem
  • fast and easy
  • and one of my favorites, don't worry "

But you are going to hear these words EVERYWHERE!!!

EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE has a promise or a guarantee or a fast and easy way of doing things....

I couldn't possibly ask my buyers to WORRY!

"HI Mr. Smith...

I have a loan for you! ...but I can't promise anything or make any guarantees and there will be problems and this will not be fast or easy. You should be worried through out this entire process!"

I don't think that will work!!!!!!! 

 

11:52am • #3
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Tom W. .....  there are different ways of looking at this. We each will have our on view points. To me, this is more of an awareness blog for consumers to think when calling these companies. Ask questions. If you get someone that doesn't seem sure of themselves, that might be a red flag.

Tom W. .....  I partially agree.  Sometimes it could slip.... but if it's used in the beginning or often, these should be red flags.

 

Kris......  yes, you are. Question is, do you use these words?  Use them often?  Use half of them within the first 5 to 10 minutes of speaking to a potential client?  Do you use these words in order to close that deal?

My whole point is that a very good to excellent loan officer, mortgage consultant... whatever you want to call us... won't use these terms or hardly ever will use them. Tape record yourself when you talk to your next few clients. You might shock yourself.

Asking your clients goals... making them feel comfortable doesn't need to come from these commonly used phrases. Being yourself,...genuine, sincere.... these will make you sound trusting and as someone that knows what they are talking about.  

Again, this is just my opinion.... but it has worked for me. And you know what.... HONESTY. If you don't think it's going to work, tell them. If you don't, then you are one of these people that I am talking about. You can still tell your client that ...hey, this might be tough, but let's dig deeper.

Thanks for your feedback and input. 

 

12:01pm • #4
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It's the old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, then it is". I will say this for Countrywide though. As a Realtor, if I get a pre-approval letter from Countrywide, for a buyer, then it's very likely that I'm going to have a pretty smooth transaction. We all know there are never any guarantees, and I counsel all my sellers and buyers accordingly. But in our area, just about any Realtor will tell you, we're happy when a buyer is pre-approved through Countrywide.

Lisa Hill

12:02pm • #5
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I hope you get this picked up in your area, buyers need to know these ads are enticying to get the phone to ring. Bait and switch.
12:08pm • #6
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Lisa...  I agree, about the old adage and saying. And as I stated, I wasn't trying to knock Countrywide. There are complaints about them. But then again, most companies get one type of complaint or so. The reason being is because they are are human beings that work on each loan, not robots. Not everyone follows the same business model that each company puts out there to their employees. 

With that said, we also would need to compare apples to apples. Because a lot of these bigger companies can't do the harder deals than I could at times. But it does come down to the loan officer and the underwriter.

Thanks for your feedback. 

 

Missy....   I know this all too well. I have semi lost my sister's friend to Bank of America's no closing cost deal. This client is not comparing apples to apples. I was doing a specific deal for her. The type of program that they would offer for no closing costs can't be offered on every loan program out there. It's call yield spread.

In all honesty, I think the word bait and switch in regards to something like this is a little harsh. The reason being is that you could still offer what you are promising, because no rate was advertised. To me, a true bait and switch would be to put something down on paper and change it before closing. This is just my opinion. thanks for your input. 

1:19pm • #7
I'm not a fan of advertising hence, why we don't advertise rates/programs/fees. I have noticed an increase in the TV ads particularly Countrywide even before they came out with their 33% loss for 2nd Quarter. Did you notice in the ad, the light blue and green colors?...I did because it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside and they were similar to the colors you might find in a baby's nursery. Good post!  Meg Burns--www.OfferAngel.com
2:41pm • #8
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Meg.... I appreciate that and understand. Colors are a key to advertising.

In any case, again, I am not here to slam companies, but to educate consumers on the advertising and what is generally behind them. Just like the lending tree commercials.   Thanks for stopping by.

 

6:11pm • #9
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Yup - the spinmeisters are hard at it and joining in on the feeding frenzy created by the media.  So much exaggeration.  I heard a tease this morning about the housing market.  Turns out they went on to talk about a completely different subject.  Just shows you the the media has a handle on what to sensationalize to seel more ads, get more readers/viewers.  They are masters of creating much out of little. 
9:45pm • #10

well written

 

what i always say is if it sounds to good to be true it normally is

 

i invitte my clients to do reserach and compare apples to apples

 

11:18pm • #11
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Darnit, lost another loan to DiTech. Good post again Jeff. It goes back to the old say - "When buying a car you best look past the wax job and get underneath the hood." Same concept applies to mortgages.
11:25pm • #12
JUL
26
2007
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A peer of mine sent out an email the other day in regards to the Bank of America 'No Fee' Mortgage.  It was a fantastically insightful and articulate look into the reality behind any advertising or marketing done.  Marketing is a powerful tool, but it is reality we have to live with.  I agree with you Jeff, I would love to have Dateline NBC or any major news channel do a story about the fine print involved in any advertisement.  Good post.
5:50am • #13
I went to a Brian Sacks seminar last year in Baltimore and saw a funny video clip about losing a loan to "Lie Tech", it was hilarious!
7:52pm • #14

Jeff - this is great.  I have finally started telling advertisers approaching me that I don't advertise and am not interested.  My business is built from referral and networking.  It is stronger and eliminates most shoppers.

Way to go!  I'm giving you a "5"!

:)

8:03pm • #15
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Marlene...   in my opinion Marlene, just telling one part of a program is sales to me. Not giving both the positive and negative. That's when I respect someone. There can't be too many things that would be great or awesome that still doesn't have 1 thing wrong or some sort of drawback.

I just think most of what we see headlined in regards to financing is to get you to call in. How come they didn't advertise these same products a year ago?  They were around?  It is because the market is dictating these types of commercials. Business is slow for many and it's one way to get more people to call in. And then weed through them.....

Dominick...... that is the normal saying and I agree... usually. But sometimes it takes research. And I agree, apples to apples. Thanks for the polite compliment.

Tony.....  And my girlfriend... lol    that is a great statement about the car and the wax job. Great analogy. We do agree on this and it people just knew what took place behind the scenes, they would understand a little more. thanks for the kind words.

Jason.... I would love to see this e-mail. Can you forward it to me?  And in regards to Dateline, I am actually working on this. It's a long shot, but I'll keep you posted.  thanks

Shane.....  I never heard of Brian Sacks before. I guess I will Google him....but it sounds good and on the money, for the most part. Again, not saying that some of these companies are bad, but it is called marketing as some of you have mentioned. And presentation is so key.

Melissa......  I agree it is much stronger than advertising.... but depending on the kind of office that I am running, a little advertising does not hurt, it just depends on how and what you state.  Overall, thanks for the polite compliments. 

8:09pm • #16
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Jeff, another excellent post!  I recently had a past client call me about the advertised 2.95 rate that she was going to get for 5 years fixed!  I had her do a conference call posing as her sister.... Turns out there was no 2.95 fixed rate, imagine that!
8:44pm • #17
JUL
27
2007
153,761 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog
Great post Jeff.  Between you and several other lenders that are on Active Rain, I am learning much more than I could in a classroom.  I agree with a few of the comments above.....it would be nice to see DatelineNBC do special on the lending industry.  That would be great to see them go undercover with cameras and tape recorders while they get screwed by some of the shady lenders.  "Dateline NBC, To Catch a Scam Lender."
2:34pm • #18
Great post, Dateline should do a story on it. The government is pushing for stronger rules and regulation for the little guys, but they turn a blind eye to the Deceiving and misleading ads that the big companies put all over the TV.
3:18pm • #19
JUL
28
2007
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They are skating around the truth to be legal. I wish people could understand....

Nobody can screw up a mortgage like Countrywide can....

8:18am • #20
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Kim....  I have done that before, posing as someone else. It's scary on how you can sometimes get a loan officer back peddling when they get some good questions. Maybe an educated consumer?  It can be fun.  Thanks for the polite compliment.

David.... thanks a lot. And I have learned some good things from not only some of these loan officers, but from realtors such as yourself.   And I agree, it would be great if Dateline did a feature or story on this. I'll keep you posted on this.  ;o)   And thanks for the compliment.

Scott....  I agree and you are correct on the rules for the little guys vs the big players. Thanks for the kind words.

Tom B. ......   I totally agree, skating around the truth. Should we say "sugar coating"???  Hey, asll companies can be weak or negative depending on those that work for them. Countrywide is just bigger which never means the best.  thanks for your input.

11:39am • #21
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Jeff Great Post and Comments,  I have a realtor that would rather send me clients then to send them to Countrywide directly.  The some of their LO's have a problem performing.
11:54am • #22
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Jeff - from your words to every buyers' eyes and ears!!!  I just wish buyers would understand that if it sounds just a tad too good to be true, it REALLY is.  Stay away, stay far far away!! 

Ann

4:53pm • #23
JUL
29
2007
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John..... Well, I am sure different offices have different reputations. I am sure that this is good for you. Thanks for the polite compliments.

Ann.... usually this is the case, just wishing that they would realize this. The problem is, once in a blue moon, something that is advertised could in fact happen. But it depends on the market and yes...it depends on that clients qualifications.  thanks for the comments.

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