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There Was A Train In The Living Room

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Nothing unusual - very old house, chimney in the center which passed through the roof, thermostat in the dining room.

Doing my normal routine, I turned on the dishwasher and oven, and found the thermostat to turn on the furnace.  I noticed oil tank lines on the outside of the house, so I already knew the house had an oil furnace.

About a minute later we heard what sounded like there was a train in the living room!  Well, you don't hear that every day!

Looking around, here is what I found:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The old tin pie plate over the flue!  In older homes it was not uncommon to have a second flue located somewhere on the living level for a wood or coal stove to help heat the house.  The main furnace was in the basement, with something secondary elsewhere.  This pie plate has been there a long time.  The right picture shows the original "springs" to hold the plate in place.  Notice the nail above the hole.  It might be that the former owner had a picture over this to hide it.

Not a good idea.  This plate deterioration exposes the whole house to carbon monoxide.  It was said that the former owner died suddenly over the winter.  Hearing that made me wonder.  We had an immediate object lesson for the new buyers.

My recommendation:  Be safe and be smart.  Older homes oftentimes have booby traps and dangers that we do not think of today.  If you see something that you think looks unsafe, call somebody to give you advice.  It may just save your life!

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Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

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Comments(14)

Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Ahhh...the detective nature in you Jay will always uncover the best for your clients !

Mar 22, 2010 11:04 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

We didn't need Sherlock to deduce that one S&D!

Mar 22, 2010 11:12 PM
Diane Williams
Pell City, AL

This was interesting and also kind of scary.  The things we do without thinking.

Mar 22, 2010 11:14 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Diane - that plate has been there, and deteriorated like that, for some time!

Mar 22, 2010 11:16 PM
Pam Turner, REALTOR®, e-PRO®, SFR
Century 21 Belk Realtors Dalton GA - Dalton, GA

It's a wonder people survived the stuff like this that used to be commonplace.

Mar 22, 2010 11:44 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Pam - I see those plates a lot, but they are usually not deteriorated or have gaps.  You are right, we emerged from dangerous times!  And 50 years from now, people will look back at how dangerously we lived...

Mar 23, 2010 12:14 AM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

Experience counts when it comes to home inspections. . great job!

Mar 23, 2010 12:19 AM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

Had to share this with you. . talking about dangerous

A few years back when I visited my home country Bolivia South America for a few days. . 

In the  hotel, the shower head had wires coming out from there. . that is how they heat the water at the hotel

They had a water heater right on the shower head!

The connection on the wall was visible in a on off switch. . I could even see the copper wires.

Talk about dangerous!

Thank God for Code in the USA

Mar 23, 2010 12:23 AM
Richard Strahm
American Foursquare Realty - Lansdale, PA
Lansdale and North Penn Real Estate

What a flashback!  We had this set up in a summer home when I was growing up where we took out a wood burning stove!  A trip down (what I didn't realize was a dangerous) memory lane!

Mar 23, 2010 12:30 AM
Pat O'Reilly
RE/MAX..214-289-6176 Irving and all of Dallas Fort Worth - Irving, TX

Jay, thanks for the information. The things people do...which is why we need a good inspector like you...

Mar 23, 2010 12:35 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jay, I remember seeing these in the past. Thanks for the reminder of a potential danger.

Mar 23, 2010 01:16 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Fernando - that sounds like the "shower" I used to have in a house in Ecuador!

Richard - those flues exist in nearly all older homes.  This house was built in 1942.

Pat - Thanks, but it was not hard to find!  I have to wonder if this isn't what did in the former owner.

Michael - we see them a lot around here, don't we?

Mar 23, 2010 06:07 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Jay,

I once saw a house where the pie plate came loose and sparks set a fire in the upstairs.

Mar 24, 2010 04:46 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Wow, Steve - I have never seen evidence of a fire, but this system and chimney were really sooty!  A loose plate is a problem too.  In my opinion a PLATE is a problem, but that is just me!

Mar 24, 2010 10:28 PM