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Misconception: confused clientIf you pay list price, you're paying too much.

If you don't know what the current market value is for homes in the area and whether the market is appreciating or depreciating, you don't know what a fair price is and you're likely to miss out on a great deal by trying to low ball a house that's already priced well.

If the house meets your goals, is within your budget, and is priced competitively, it's a bargain and you should make a strong offer. Get assistance from a professional to help you recognize a good deal and grab it before it's gone.

 Misconception: Foreclosures and short sales are the best buys

Many buyers find out the hard way that foreclosures and short sales are full of headaches, may need extensive repairs, require great patience over an extended period, often don't have the criteria that's most important to you, and may never close. 

Short sales abound in Tallahassee and many people are starting to avoid them because the pain isn't worth the gain.  Foreclosures can be less troublesome, but often in poor condition with challenges that may take longer than normal to resolve.  Market prices have corrected in many places, including Tallahassee, and it's possible to find great deals in homes that are priced like short sales, but don't have the headaches.

Misconception You get a better price if you buy directly from the owner.

Bargain hunters sometimes avoid Realtors, thinking that they will get a better price if they buy directly from a FSBO.  Meanwhile, the sellers are also trying to save on the commission, so they're not getting expert advice either and often price their homes above market value. 

The end result is often that a buyer pays too much or the FSBO is unable to get the house sold. A savvy Realtor working on the buyer's behalf, armed with market data and great negotiation skills, is much more likely to get a great deal than buyers can by negotiating for themselves.

If you're buying a house, it's a great idea to find a good Realtor and listen to their advice.

If you know of anyone who's thinking about buying or selling a home in Tallahassee, I'll be happy to give them the information and guidance they need to make a smart move.

Colleen McConnell, CRS, Broker-Associate
www.Tallyhouse.com
2344 Centerville Rd, Suite 105, Tallahassee, FL 32308

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84 Comments on Common Misconceptions Among Buyers

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2010
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Great points and so very true among buyers today.  Another one that I hear often is that buyers are reluctant to use an agent because it will cost them out of their pocket! 

6:45am • #1
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I've never understood why buyers think they are getting a deal on Short sales and foreclosures.  Typically they are priced according to condition of the home and condition of the market.  Purchasing a short sale is a crap shoot and a foreclosure is generally a home that has been neglected if not abused.  Why risk having a big repair when you don't have too?  Of course some folks enjoy fixing up homes, so more power to them.

Good post here!

kk

6:47am • #2

Great post and very well written! Thank you for organizing these tips.

7:08am • #3

Thanks for a great article!

 

7:18am • #4
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All great "misconceptions"..if there is such. Number three really does fool a lot of people!

7:45am • #5
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I just turned down a buyer client because he said that he never pays list price. He wanted me to make low ball offers so he could buy at 25% below list price. I had to tell him that I didn't think I could help him.

7:58am • #6

Great post.  True about the headaches of short sales and forclousures. 

4:56pm • #7
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Colleen

Thanks for sharing the information, you are right on point.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

6:50pm • #8
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Absolutely! "You gert what you Pay for " is not a saying that was just created. I personally prefer my bumpers stickers BUT NOT  MY HOUSE for sellers and BUT NOT THE HOUSE I BUY, for the buyer's

 

8:27am • #9
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Great Post.  I personally am tired of buyers offering 20% off any price... no matter what the price is. 

8:29am • #10
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FSBO?  Wow, haven't seen any of those around our area for a couple of years.  In the Tri Valley, Northern California, we're in a multiple offer market.  Under asking offers rarely get a deal, and usually if they do it's because it was overpriced to start with, or the property was found to have defects.

We're seeing more short sales closing, but the ones I'm more apt to encourage a buyer to write on, are those that are 'back on market'.

8:30am • #11
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Bravo!  Your post is so true.  I wish the buyer mind set would change.  Once you add in cost of repairs and the time to make the home the way you want it to be you could have purchased a move in ready. Then you can make cosmetic changes and make that house you bought into your home.

8:33am • #12
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Another Misconception is that the lowest rate is the best and only thing to look for when getting financing. Typically the lowest rate has the highest fees and according to how long they plan on being in that home with that financing can be a mistake.

I've seen an engineer price out 10 lenders from lowest rate to highest rate and you could draw a straight line on fees opposite to rate. The big decisions should have been asked is " which option made the most mathmatical sense to their needs "

 

8:36am • #13
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Colleen you are so right.  I recently wrote a post asking if agents tell there buyers that it's okay to make a full (list) price offer.  Comments were interesting.

As for foreclosures and buying directly from owners:  sometimes people believe what sounds good or what they want to hear despite the inaccuracy

8:40am • #14

Great article Colleen and solid points.  I might disagree slightly about Point 1.  If the listing price has been slashed recently, or if you know absolutely for sure it's a great deal - yes, agreed.  But, as an appraiser it amazes me how often I see homes selling for full list price and the only reason is due to a mis-informed buyer - ie - they are moving to a new city and "in their uninformed view" the price appears favorable. 

Sometimes a listing price is fair, sometimes its aggressively low, and sometimes its high.  Consult a true professional to find out.  Thanks!

8:48am • #15

Colleen,

     Super article!

  

8:51am • #16

Colleen,

     Super article!

  

8:51am • #17

Colleen,

     Super article!

  

8:51am • #18
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You hit the nail on the head Colleen - everyone wants a deal today. The best deal is buying a house you like today with all the great inventory out there for the best price - not necessarily the cheapest price. Buying from an owner is not the best idea for a buyer. I don't know why the public feels that way. I think it is the "deal" mentality.   Great blog...

8:53am • #19

Great article.  I want to print this out and show it to all my buyers.  I too am tired of writing low ball offers that will never go anywhere.

8:57am • #20
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Great post! It took me becoming a Realtor to fully understand what we do!

8:59am • #21
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After losing a few homes, local buyers do start offering list price, or more if they want seller to pay closing costs.

9:09am • #22
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Well written. Clifford really likes it.

9:12am • #23
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Great points..and all thiings I stress to my buyers everytime we are out working together.

9:16am • #24
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Thank you! Great job in summing up the market so simply! The media has done a dispicable job explaning the market to Buyers. They look at me like my head is spinning and green stuff is shooting out of my mouth when I try to explan the current market situations! I will send them your article, maybe if they see it in black and white it will register!!

 

Best Always,

 

Tere RiceRealtor*

Real Deal Properties

Temecula, Ca.

9:19am • #25
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I totally agree with you. Nicely said.

Sheila Anderson, Broker/Salesperson

 

9:26am • #26

I am amazed at how many first-time home buyers make such a strong point to only look at foreclosures.  Educating the public is very important.  Thanks for a great post!

9:27am • #27

I truly believe that it is within our control to educate our buyers on exactly these points.    This will only serve to make sure they see that we are the knowledgable professionals that we are.    We have more respect from them in the long run when we are able to show them why the price they select to offer makes the most sense.

9:29am • #28
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Colleen, this is such a great post that I'm going to re-blog it as soon as I'm done with this comment!  I think many buyers' perceptions are still colored by what they read and see in the media - they think that it's totally a buyer's market and they can get a "steal."  However, sellers are now being more realistic about list price than a year ago, and many homes are priced aggressively to sell.

I had a buyer last month that lost out on the home of his dreams in a multiple offer situation.  He couldn't bring himself to pay full list price, even though I showed him the comps and told him it was a fair price.

Thanks for a great post!

9:32am • #29

This is truly an EXCELLENT post!  I counsel my clients on these points ad nauseum... and they tend to listen since I'm the lender & they're not skeptical that I have some ulterior motive.

9:45am • #31
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Don't you wonder where they get this stuff?  Thanks!

9:56am • #32
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Great post!  And all very true...  Have a wonderful day!

9:59am • #33

These three misconceptions are also common in New York City, even in Manhattan where sales are nearly all co-ops and condos and many purchasing requirements are not found in other parts of the country.  For example, a FSBO seller can accept a low price offer but the co-op board can refuse to approve it because it is too low and would reduce the value of the other apartments.  However, here as elsewhere, there is one absolutely convincing piece of evidence that an asking price is fair and that is when another bidder is willing to pay above it.  Then the buyers compete against each other and what is "fair" is not even a topic anymore. 

10:22am • #34
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FSBO's - this one tickles me. Let's say a FSBO seller has thoroughly studied the market and recent comps and knows $300,000 is what their property will realistically sell for (a long shot, I know, but bear with me). If the commission would be 6%, that's $18,000. Why on Earth do buyers think the seller wants to oh-so-generously sell them the property for $18,000 less leaving that money in the pocket of the buyer? If the seller knows it will sell for $300,000, they want to sell it for that and keep the extra $18,000 for themselves!

More likely scenario is that they are positive the deep forest green carpet and matching kitchen tile they selected 25 years ago, along with boldly patterned wallpaper on every wall, are decorator upgrades and will command a higher price than any home in their neighborhood.:D

10:29am • #36

Looks like Real Estate 101... Nice to see an agent reminding people of the basics. When ever my business goes south at all, I look back at the basics and see what can be does to change the path. I have a presentation pack for buers and this reminds me I need to address these issues in it...

 

Thanks..

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That last one is probably the biggest one.  It is a good idea to get your own agent.

10:34am • #38

It is amazing that so many buyers think there is a one-size-fits-all startegy for bidding on homes. They want to know how much below the list price they should expect to pay. If it were that way, why would I be a buyer's agent?

I also love the FSBO sellers who price their home way above market value and don't want to pay any commissions. I explain to my clients that working for a FSBO should give the seller the opportunity to avoid paying listing agent commission and still price teh home competitively in order to get it sold quickly and easily. Unfortunately, most of these sellers need a listing agent for a wide variety of reasons including.

Great post.

 

10:48am • #39
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Great post.  You pointed out the misconceptions that so many buyers have.  When we first meet with our buyers we talk about all of the misconceptions you listed. 

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Indeed, indeed. Sometimes it is near impossible to dslodge the misconceptions from buyers' heads, no matter how much information we provide to them, because they will always, without fail, quote some anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

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Indeed, indeed. Sometimes it is near impossible to dslodge the misconceptions from buyers' heads, no matter how much information we provide to them, because they will always, without fail, quote some anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

11:32am • #43
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Well said!  Thanks for verbalizing so succinctly!

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All good points.  I just wish everyone would stop using the word "realtor," and just use "real estate agent" instead since all of us are not realtors.

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All good points.  I just wish everyone would stop using the word "realtor," and just use "real estate agent" instead since all of us are not realtors.

11:42am • #46

Thanks Colleen for the great post. I am going to add your thoughts to my "toolbox" for buyer objections.

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Amen, I'm so tired of preaching this. Thanks for the clear and concise post.

12:06pm • #48
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Excellent points, Colleen, and so true with today's market.  Those that persist in their thinking often find it shattered when reality sets it.

Jeff

12:07pm • #49

Since it's been a buyer's market, a lot of folks think they can get a house for a rock bottom price, no matter what the condition.  For some reason they think they are the only ones who are going to make an offer.  Reminds me of a first time buyer who was telling me how he just couldn't understand why anyone would pay over asking price.  I explained why, but it had no effect until someone else drove up to view the house as we were leaving.  He got out of his truck, came over and told me to add $10K to his offer.  Even then he didn't get it, but that made a believer out of him.

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Hi Colleen, I was curious how the Tallahassee market was going. Much like the Orange Park market here. As a matter of fact i just recieved a call on one of my listings and the buyer wanted to know why the prices as he said "were all over the place". With bank owned, short sales, and seller owned and every circumstance inbetween you can see how the buyer could be misdirected. 

12:45pm • #51
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Agree with all your points.  Sometimes it just takes awhile for a buyer to become fully educated in the current marketplace.  All too often, they listen to advice from relatives and friends who aren't even knowledgeable on the subject.  "Never buy buyers" will continue utilizing poor strategies.  "Ready, willing and able" buyers, with the guidance of a professional realtor, will achieve their goal of purchasing a home that meets their needs.

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Colleen, this is excellent, many agents are going through the same thing in their particular market. I know it is happening here, Nothing like making an offer that is way low and then asking of a ton of money for closing assistance, it just isn't going to happen.

1:16pm • #53

Colleen,  you are right on. Those are very common misconceptions and your article addressed them well. We have the same challenges here in Tampa.

2:14pm • #54
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Absolutely!  These tendencies are common among buyers who think they know what they are doing and yet fail to consider the expertise available to them from agents who have their finger on the pulse of market.  Fortunately, many buyers and sellers still seek wise counsel when making major financial decisions.

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You have to wonder why cars, houses, and yard sale junk are the only things in this country with prices that are negotiable. We can't walk into a grocery store and say "What'll ya take for this can of peas?"

But it does seem that all buyers look at list price as something that merely marks a starting point.

With more good agents working, and better statistics to work with, it seems like most homes would be priced correctly from the start. However, I expect that many agents and sellers bump that price up a bit, just because they know the buyer is going to want them to come down.

The FSBO market really lends itself to this thinking, especially since so many FSBO sellers have no idea about the true market value of their houses. It really is counter-productive to go that route - where both the sellers and the buyers are after the dollars that a hard working agent should be earning.

Those sellers need you, but you have to gently demonstrate why before they'll believe it. That's why I wrote the FSBO prospecting letters you can see at www.copybymarte.com

 

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Very well said and on point

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What a great reminder.  Will reblog and remind everyone AGAIN of these excellent facts!

 

5:13pm • #58
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Excellent advice!  People often don't know what they don't know.

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we should all note of course that sellers have much the same problems... great post... now we just need to see prices climb a bit... just a bit... that will help straighten these buyers out... ;-)

5:31pm • #61

Good Post.  If only the Buyers and Sellers would listen to the professionals working in the business everyday. Fortunately, some do!

5:37pm • #62
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Great blog! I've been preaching these same things for years, but it's still worth repeating over and over, if only 1 buyer get's it.  worthy of a reblog- thank you!

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The pain is definitely not worth the gain!  We own 7 foreclosed upon homes in Kansas City and getting them rehabbed is a constant headache.  As is our "deed in lieu of foreclosure" in Allentown, PA.  Which is a bad property in a bad neighborhood that's been badly maintained, if at all.  We worked the numbers many times and just saw stars!  We had no idea of the depth of problems some of these neglected buildings have.

BEWARE is what I now say to all buyers,unless you can get in to see the home and get it properly (and reliably) inspected.

 

6:25pm • #64
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Great points! The problem lies in the fact that the fsbos and buyers do not believe us!

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Just listed a FSBO that I'd done a market analysis on six months ago. Two offers in the first 5 days! Sellers are thrilled because the both offers were more complicated than they could deal with! Win/win!!!

7:41pm • #66

I'll ditto Maris and say "Amen!" Keep preaching it girl!

11:53pm • #67
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Buyers also seem to think that they have to pay less than list price, no matter how much you educate them on the market.  I had a buyer last year who lost two GREAT homes (both underpriced due to the seller's circumstances) and he wanted me to low ball them both.  I did it on the first home because it had been on the market forever thinking we might have a chance.  We didn't.  After losing it, he was shocked to find out that the people who did buy the house bought it for $1,000 under list price!  Not wanting to give up on him, because we'd already seen every house in the area, we tried again - this time on a foreclosure.  Again, he didn't want to believe me that the banks are not just out there trying to lose money and he insisted on low balling one more time.  Again, in my determination to get him in a house which is what he said he wanted, we tried again.  He lost that one to a more than full price offer.  I finally had to let him go.  It was very apparent he didn't want to learn and there was only such much time I could waste.  Last I heard, he's renting!  On top of losing two good houses, the listing agents think we aren't educating our buyers - in reality, some buyers can't or don't want to be educated. 

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I shake my head when neophyte buyers tell me they want to buy a short sale or REO. We are talking about distressed housing in dubious condition and a sales process that taxes even the savviest among us. 

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Colleen.. You are absolutely correct with these points.  I believe all buyers should read this before going out to look at homes. 

What is sad is that most buyers feel *no matter what the home is listed at* that they should offer less otherwise they are NOT getting a deal.  If their realtor researches this, they would know in some cases that the home is already under value.

 

6:29am • #70

Great advice! You are a professional who knows what they are talking about.

Thanks for the post.

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Perfectly said. Now I have got to figure out how to write a similar blog post to my spere without copying this beauty!

9:37am • #72
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All great points and well written. In Toronto, if you're paying the asking price you're probably getting a deal. Here agents are still pricing below market value to generate multiple offers.

Whether you're in a slow or hot real estate market, buyers and sellers need to do their own homework to get a sense of what sells at what prices. The right agent can really help, but knowing you've got the "right" agent is the hard part for most people.

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Very true- but one misconection you might add on the buyer side is that the don't need an agent until the last minute.  So many younger buyers are so Internet savvy and see how much data is available to them that the forget how important the role of a good agent is.

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Colleen,

Wish I'd said that!  Great post!

6:55pm • #75

My first thought when I read your title was, "There are only 3?"  LOL!  Thanks for addressing these!  I might re-blog you if you don't mind.

8:04pm • #76
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Isn't it amazing that a REALTOR can save people a ton of headaches and money? lol

Ty

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These are true misconceptions. 1. The price of a home should be it’s true market value – a good Realtor will treat it as an Appraiser would and establish it’s true market value and then stick to it. I’m sorry to say, I have worked with Realtors who always make an offer for 15% of the asking price – for no reason at all. In those cases, I have recommended they go back and do the homework to make a more reasonable offer and even offer to show them how we established the price. 2. Short sales and Foreclosures are what everyone is hearing about and think they are a bargain – they don’t even know sometimes what they are buying. The builders are pricing some of there homes competitively with the Short Sales and they are brand new with a warranty. A better bet, especially for a first time buyer. 3. For Sale by Owners are mostly homeowners who don’t like the truth of what their homes value is currently. So, they try it themselves for more than the market value. Even if they price it right, the first thing a buyer will do is deduct the real estate commission from their offer. No one really wins in that case.

Karen Palmer, Sales Manager

2:06pm • #78
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Great blog.  Thanks.  Good read for this beautiful Saturday. And, oh so true. 

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Great blog.  Thanks.  Good read for this beautiful Saturday. And, oh so true. 

12:19pm • #80

Well written. Great advice.

5:41pm • #81
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COLLEEN: You have posted a well written blog about the misconceptions that buyers have. I have told my potential clients that I will not low ball any property and if this is what they want to do then I am not the right agent for them. I tell them that I will do the comps and tell then things they may not want to hear, but isn't that why they hire me to get my expert advice. I tell them there will be times that I will tell them the listed price is a fair market price and that they should pay the price or lose the property. Some will do and other will not.

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Great post and great comments! All true.

11:12pm • #83
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Great post.  My last closing was on a home I had listed where no other home in the subdivision had sold in the last 2 years that was not a foreclosure.  We were able to do it because the value was in this home, move in and start living, not fix it up and move in while continuing to repair.  The neighbors liked the fact it sold resale and it seems foreclosure prices are even up about 35% in this neighborhood in the last few months.  People need Realtors to explain that value is not just the cheapest price.

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Well said Colleen. I may borrow some of your points. Thanks.

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There are way too many people out there that still have a misconception on how much time and energy goes into being successful and how we are constantly on a roller coaster ride.  I don't think John Q. Public will ever understand unless they have been there and done that.

 

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