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Rich Idiot Theory Exposed

By
Real Estate Agent with Associated Brokers Of Pagosa

   I assist people in the buying and selling of real estate...for a living, not a hobby. I do this in a small Colorado mountain town that has primarily for years been monetarily propagated by a few southern and western states. (Of which I will pick on only one for this post). Please forgive me all of you "Big Star State" people, but the slogan around here (with the exception of a few oil bust years in the 80's) is "Texas keeps Colorado green"

   Now, all of my REALTOR colleagues understand the Listing battle in a flat or declining market such as we are experiencing currently. Taking listings in 07 at 05 prices does not always pay the bills. I have recently come across a few potential clients that have the idea they can ask whatever they want for their property, and soon enough someone will pay them for it. No matter the inventory or comps.

I CALL THIS THE RICH IDIOT THEORY ...and it goes down something like this:

-A potential client during a listing discussion informs me that they would like to list their property 3 to 5 times what it could possibly bring in the current market. To rationalize this they say "Well you know with all the rich Texans coming up here on vaction this summer, one of them will fall in love with my mountain views and just "have" to have it."

The BIG problem with this kind of thinking lies in the fact that someone, primarily our subject the"rich" Texan, came upon their wealth by way of throwing it away on emotional real estate purchases...of course that makes perfect sense. Thats how they became wealthy!

OR (to take this a little further and seal my fate at NOT getting this listing) I say

  1. Our wealthy traveler must have won the lottery 3 days ago, found his way from San Antonio all the way through the Panhandle WITHOUT someone else taking his money and happened into my office just in time for me to show him YOUR property!....and
  2. The insulting part is that you think I would drive our RICH IDIOT southern customer past 3 wonderful properties that are priced correctly, show him the elk standing on the other side of the road so he does not see them, and sell him yours at the super-inflated price! (thus sealing my indicated lack of integrity)

This conversation has literally happened almost verbatim in our office. It usually does not get the listing but it makes for a humorous afternoon.

Comments (18)

Mary Blanchard, Broker, CRS, E-PRO, ABR, ASP
Mary Blanchard, Broker - Cary, IL

HI Chris,

I don't have anything intelligent to post in response.  Simply wanted to share that I am cracking up reading this!  I have one seller that insists that their home is worth the additional 50K they are asking over where it should be priced.  We staged it, painted it, repaired flooring, did everything that was possible.  The only thing we haven't done is make the family room bigger.  Each showing has resulted in the same feedback...."The family room is too small".  I have shared with them that at 50K lower, families vising won't feel that way about the family room and in fact will be thrilled with the home.  Anyway, they aren't yet convinced.

 

Jul 29, 2007 01:22 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital
My side hurts too much from laughing!  I know some rich Texans, and they are not idiots.  You want these guys for buyers!
Jul 29, 2007 01:29 AM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate

Funny post.

I don't thing we have the 3 to 5 times factor, but we are seeing a lot of overpriced listings because of the previous five years.

Jul 29, 2007 01:33 AM
Linda Reynolds
Bradenton Real Estate - Linda Reynolds - Bradenton, FL
Bradenton Real Estate
Just have to love that logic, we have that here in Florida as well, but guess what??  It doesn't work, they need to get a grip and list it at market value.  Like you said they didn't obtain their wealth by making dumb decisions.
Jul 29, 2007 01:36 AM
Al Maxwell
Keller Williams - Marietta, GA
Real Estate Agent
I love it Great post...yes, "a fool and his money is soon parted", right?
Jul 29, 2007 01:41 AM
Sandra Cummings
William Raveis Real Estate - Guilford, CT
Real Estate Agent, Guilford Connecticut

Hi Chris:

Up here we get the sellers "Rich New Yorker's Theory". It would be funny if it wasn't so sad that these sellers truly believe that a rich "outtta stater" will indeed purchase their overpriced property.  That all an agent needs to do to sell it is throw an ad in the New York Times.

Sandra

Jul 29, 2007 01:47 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time
Very funny but so true. Like Sandra above I also get the "Rich New Yorker" spiel. "My house will sell for 25% more if you advertise it in NY"
Jul 29, 2007 01:58 AM
Kim Zajan -- Oviedo FL Real Estate
Prudential Florida Realty - Oviedo, FL

I am laughing so hard.  Great post.

Kim

Jul 29, 2007 02:03 AM
Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

The rich idiot....I  think that sometimes people down here think there is a rich snowbird who is going to visit Florida, get orange juice in the veins and pay too much for a property! I have not ruin into any such people. Most people are aware of values and agents want to sell property that is priced appropriately. After all, it is word of mouth advertising you want, not the negative stuff!

Besides, who wants to be known as the number one real estate choice for for rich idiots!

Jul 29, 2007 02:08 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
I run into "The Rich International Buyer" since I represent many international clients in their Florida purchases. 
Jul 29, 2007 02:24 AM
Armando Rodriguez
QUEST REALTY SERVICES - Orlando, FL
Orlando Homes 4 Sale, Real Estate Broker-GRI

Good for you Chris.

I totally agree with you. I'd never take that listing.

Yet as we know someone out there probably will.

Jul 29, 2007 02:30 AM
Chris Liverett
Associated Brokers Of Pagosa - Pagosa Springs, CO
Pagosa Springs Real Estate

Thank you for your kind comments- This blog was just a little comic relief for myself also.

Chris

Jul 29, 2007 08:12 AM
Dena Stevens
Rocky Mountain Realty - Canon City, CO
Putting The Real Into Realtor Since 2004
Proof that humans can rationalize anything!
Jul 29, 2007 11:06 AM
Joanne Hanson
Coldwell Banker Colorado Rockies Real Estate - Frisco, CO
Summit County, Colorado Realtor
HI Chris, I lost out on three listings recently, because I didn't give them a high enough price.  One had comps at $1.1-1.2M and I suggested $1.3M because our market is very strong and he is on a river, but he wanted $1.5M!  They all think some rich Texan will fall in love and lose all reason.  It doesn't happen.  Summit County is still doing well, but not that well!
Jul 29, 2007 05:58 PM
Alexander Harb
Knights Investing - Mesquite, TX
Dallas, Texas Real Estate Investing

AND it lets God hear and see your integrity and move things in your life on your behalf because of your stand for the right thing to do.....

May it happen in our Messiahs name!!

\O/

Jul 29, 2007 06:09 PM
Chris Liverett
Associated Brokers Of Pagosa - Pagosa Springs, CO
Pagosa Springs Real Estate

Joanne,

 I understand completely. I am finding that right now (unlike the past few years) it does not pay to take listings unless they are reasonable. Thanks for your comment.

Jul 29, 2007 06:13 PM
Chris Liverett
Associated Brokers Of Pagosa - Pagosa Springs, CO
Pagosa Springs Real Estate

Alexander,

 Thanks for that encouragement! I hear you. I was having this discussion with a friend today. I don't understand all of the deceit that I see in our industry sometimes for just another buck. Work hard for your people, and do the right thing, and GOD will honor that!

Jul 29, 2007 06:16 PM
Patti Ann Kasper
EXIT REALTY NEXUS - Blaine, MN
Blaine & North Metro Minneapolis St Paul Real Esta

Some people's children...

Sounds like a guy who wanted me to list his home for $1M when the home was worth about $620K.  His reasoning was that it was a great party house (and it looked like it had hosted one party too many).  He figurted a rich NBA, NFL, or MLB player would just love to buy it.  So I asked him why a rich, young athlete would want his poorly maintained 10 year old rambler when they could buy a great new construction home in the "Happening" part of town for much less.

Ya, sure, you betcha!

Jul 30, 2007 04:37 PM
Chris Liverett
Associated Brokers Of Pagosa - Pagosa Springs, CO
Pagosa Springs Real Estate
Patti- It's amazing what some people think there place is worth based on pure emotioanl attachment!
Aug 15, 2007 04:20 PM