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WARNING!WARNING!FHA IS NOT SUBPRIME!

By
Mortgage and Lending with Christensen Financial Mortgage 385907

I think I have said before that some, how many I'm not sure, of the subprime loans that were written over the last 2-3 years would have qualified as FHA loans. Most of those buyers would have received fixed rate loans under 7% and would not be facing killer rate increases at this time.

BUT, big but here.

While it is possible that;

all borrowers who acquired FHA loans would qualify for Subprime loans,

It is not believable that;

all subprime borrowers would qualify for FHA loans.

Because they wouldn't! Contrary to some opinions that I have seen lately FHA is not going to replace Subprime lending in its entirety. FHA guidelines, in most cases, are more restrictive than Subprime.

Many loan officers today are just trying to get buyers, with issues, approved FHA because they don't have their old friend the subprime loan. In case you haven't realized it yet some of those buyers just aren't going to get approved. They are going to need to do some work to conform to FHA guidelines, and credit is a great example. The free ride, anything goes, Subprime loan is dead. Why, you may ask?

BECAUSE THEY WERE BAD LOANS!

That's become obvious to most.

To my fellow Loan Officers, be you a lender or a broker;

Take some time to learn the guidelines. Go to FHA seminars, find a wholesale rep who has an abundance of FHA knowledge, go online and read the guidelines, and call the FHA hotline with your specific questions. In short do the work you need to do to market the product. Don't short change your referral sources, ie; your Realtors. They're counting on us!

FHA IS A GREAT PRODUCT!

IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT.

BUT!

IT'S NOT SUBPRIME!

 

 

 

Fran Gaspari
Patriot Land Transfer, Inc. - Limerick, PA
"The Title Man" - Title Insurance - PA & NJ

Jay:

Nice post. I hope it spurs some investigation. I think the FHA products have been sorely overlooked over the years. I think there is a "fear" of FHA on behalf of both the real estate agent and the mortgage pros. The FHA adjustable is THEEE best product on the market. I invite all to Check it out and Compare.

Fran Gaspari

Jul 29, 2007 05:43 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Bill,

i considered trying to do both but it was to much. i'll try to put some basics together for another blog. 

Jul 29, 2007 05:44 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Fran

i did something earlier ("fha still rules") about fha changes; appraisals, mandatory tests. these changes should help to alleviate some of the fears. I'll check out that ARM pricing in the AM.  

Jul 29, 2007 06:02 AM
Provadus Home Loans
Provadus Home Loans - Marietta, GA
Technology bringing you home.
FHA has it's purpose for the right client.  It all depends on the financial needs of the client.  Great info Jay.
Jul 29, 2007 08:14 AM
Joan Mirantz
Homequest Real Estate - Concord, NH
Realtor, GRI, CBR, SRES - Concord New Hampshire
Hi Jay..great information.I agree about Lenders knowing their products...we count on them to know their job so that we can do ours!!
Jul 29, 2007 08:57 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous
Good Post,  I hear all the time that FHA is the savior...those of us that write FHA know better,  FHA has its rules...it is not a subprime loan bu rather a loan prigram that looks at the last 12 months credit history more closely and with more enphasis  then the older credit.
Jul 29, 2007 09:43 AM
#9
John Popp
Charlotte, NC

Good Post,  I hear all the time that FHA is the savior...those of us that write FHA know better,  FHA has its rules...it is not a subprime loan bu rather a loan prigram that looks at the last 12 months credit history more closely and with more enphasis  then the older credit.

Jul 29, 2007 09:58 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

hi joan,

we need to be able to give you the best information to help make your job just a little easier.

john,

FHA will probably grab the percentage of the subprime market that it should have gotten in the first place, but no more than that. 

Jul 29, 2007 10:46 AM
Anonymous
FHABook.com
Way to get the message across!
Jul 30, 2007 06:11 AM
#12
Paul Moye
Benchmark Realty - Franklin, TN
Broker, GRI, SRES

FHA has also tightened the Seller Participation guidelines up in some areas. Appraisers are more strengent on their values and the borrower has to have a job history and low debt ration.

Sub Prime requirements; Pulse

Jul 30, 2007 06:49 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Paul 

different HUD offices have the ability to influence the guidelines. i'm in southwest florida and i wouldn't be surprised to see the termite test requirement to resurface at some time.

Jul 30, 2007 07:12 AM
Arlyn Mendoza
HomeServices Lending LLC - South Miami, FL

Hello Jay,

I'm with you on FHA, also have been doing FHA loans for many, many years... I really think we are heading back to the basics and I for one, am glad... With the automated underwriting engines now being used, i.e. "Total Scorecard", I have rcvd approvals on FHA loans with very high debt ratios..Appraisals are easier now, none of the those pesky VC sheets anymore!, even the subdivision and condo approvals aren't as cumbersome as they used to be! I believe that FHA will eventually align itself more closely with FNMA/FHLMC standards.

I think everyone should freshen up on FHA, not to mention that these loans are very profitable!

Jul 30, 2007 11:57 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Arlyn 

after all these years the recent changes are just so wonderful. for those familiar with it FHA is a very powerful tool. if they raise the limits to fannie/freddie levels i'll be a very happy man.

Jul 30, 2007 12:26 PM
Arlyn Mendoza
HomeServices Lending LLC - South Miami, FL
From your lips to God's hear! :-)
Aug 01, 2007 06:10 AM
Anonymous
Gregory Hartley

Let's get something straight guys. Just because there is no longer a VC sheet doesn't mean there are not repair items. Defective conditions and damages are still just that and must be addressed. FHA has not come out with the new 4150 handbook yet and has given us appraisers very little to go by except a few examples: broken windows, no handrails on steps, worn carpeting & flooring, delaminated counter tops, and precious few other things are now considered "cosmetic" and don't have to be repaired. Items the appraiser must still look for are chipping & peeling paint (lead based paint hazard if home built prior to 1978), chipping & peeling paint if the underlying wood surface is exposed to the elements, gas water heater on slab in a garage area, major plumbing leaks (shower pans, p-traps, etc), water stains in the ceiling that could be a roof problem, cracks in the foundation, I could go on. In sum, just because there is no VC sheet doesn't mean there are no repair items. Don't pressure your appraiser to disregard defective items or damages and don't try to fool him or her into thinking there are no repair items anymore. It just ain't so. Don't believe me? Call your local HOC.

The appraiser can and should be more stringent in an FHA appraisal because the government is watching us. If appraisers had this attitude on every appraisal, whether it was FHA or conventional, we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead, appraisers have caved in to lender pressure and to the almighty dollar. Which one of you brokers out there haven't dropped an appraiser from your list because he or she "couldn't get the value?" I know I've been dropped. But guess what? No one on my current list of clients is going to get their butt in a sling for packaging a loan with an overinflated appraisal because I don't do it. I've got a family to support and a business to run and I don't need a client that is going to disrespect me like that. I'll fire the client first. If you're a mortgage broker or a mortgage banker now is the time to look deep inside yourself and admit that if you've ever pressured an appraiser, YOU WON'T DO IT AGAIN. We've got plenty of other things to worry about than lender pressure. You must trust your appraiser and give us the room to be the professionals we are and allow us to regain our credibility and professionalism. I guess its our own fault we lost it by being prostitutes. Its never to late to change, right? Still, this is not to say that if the appraiser is not professional, is sloppy, or just downright stupid, you should tank them. Tanking them for doing their job is for goons. Are you a goon? Thanks for reading.

 Gregory Hartley Blue Moon Appraisals Birmingham, AL

Aug 06, 2007 03:44 PM
#18
Seth Callen
Farmers Insurance - Lawton, OK
Yes, I don't see any way my focus can avoid becoming heavily VA/FHA.   That's okay, though because the streamline refi's are easy to deal with.
Aug 06, 2007 04:11 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

greg,

the mortgagee letter is clear in that it says conventional quality "as is" appraisals and i have not had any problems with the appraisers i use adapting to the changes.

nice to meet you-i'm a lender, not a broker and have never dropped an appraiser because the value was not there.

i am offended that you would refer to the appraisers that i have used as prostitutes. they have always acted professionally. if you care to refer to yourself in that manner i guess you can, but you probably shouldn't.

seems like you've got a lot of anger there i hope things go better for you. 

 

Aug 06, 2007 11:09 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

seth,

yes streamline refi's are fairly easy to do. also, if you develop a FHA purchase clientele now you will have a nice base for those refi's when/if rates become lower.

jay 

Aug 06, 2007 11:12 PM
Kerry Constantine
Power Brokers Real Estate - Fort Myers, FL
Not only are you smart, but also handsome.
Aug 07, 2007 03:34 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

kerry,

thank yo for your kind words. you are not only a very observant woman but also an excellent judge of character.

jay 

Aug 07, 2007 05:26 AM