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Angle of Repose, Footing and Foundation Work

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Home Inspector with King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. Home Inspector Lic #207

Recently, I have been involved in a discussion between contractors and professional engineers regarding excavation work in the crawl space at an older home. The issue came up when the contractor, who is in charge of establishing proper clearances between structural lumber and the dirt floor of the crawl space, stated that he was concerned to dig anywhere near the foundation wall for fear of creating structural instability or undermining the foundation. That is, of course, a valid worry.  During the discussion, the term "angle of repose" came up. I will explain how that term comes into play in a moment.

But first, let me establish that, since soils vary, there is no hard and fast rule as to how close, or at what angle, you can dig, tunnel or excavate next to a foundation wall or a footing. If circumstances might be critical, or complicated at all, then a structural engineer should, and could, do soil tests and calculate those parameters.

On the other hand, if all a person is looking for is a ballpark idea as to what is acceptable, then the 45 degree angle of repose comes into play. It is a general rule of thumb that you need to protect the soil below the foundation and out at 45 degrees to each side. 

The "angle of repose", red lines, show distinctly the critical area in which you must not dig or tunnel. Disturbing the soil anywhere within those boundaries could lead to serious, and difficult to repair, consequences.

Knowing the term "angle of repose" does not make you, or me, an engineer. But it is information worth knowing. Remember that, in any circumstances where excavating close to a foundation could be critical, it is always best to first consult with a professional structural engineer. 

Thanks for stopping by,

Steven L. Smith

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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

My angle of repose is horizontal.

My angel never reposes - he is always busy.

Apr 10, 2010 02:41 PM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

I learn something new every day.. now if only I can remember that. Now to figure out to work it into a conversation and impress a few people...

Apr 10, 2010 03:38 PM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Andrea,

No reason to worry about how to use the info, Nutsy has not figured it out yet either.

Apr 11, 2010 03:26 AM
Harold Miller
Miller Home Inspection - Stanwood, WA
Certified Professional Home Inspector

Got to love it when in an attempt to excavate the crawls space for adequate clearances, some folks don't get the point of maintain adequate soil under and adjacent to the foundation wall. Seen a few problems caused by inexperienced folks doing this work.

Apr 11, 2010 04:24 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Just another example of how they don't build them like they used to.

Apr 11, 2010 05:22 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Doesn't your certifried assistant normally assume a horizontal angle of repose after tossing back a few on Friday night at the local watering hole?

Apr 14, 2010 11:38 PM