This weeks "Carnival of Content" for Loan Officers and Mortgage Lenders was perhaps one of the most difficult and challenging competitions to judge. Seriously, everyone who submitted an entry for this round deserves to be a winner in their own right. As anticipated, the contestants from among our Mortgage members really raised the bar on quality blog writing, making the job of determining this weeks winners extremely difficult for our panel of distinguished judges.

But before we announce the 2nd Round Winners, let's briefly recap the rationale behind the Carnival of Content contests:

Mission Statement:   The ActiveRain "Carnival of Content" is a twice monthly contest to challenge, encourage and foster better and improved quality writing from among our membership.

This contest will accomplish two goals:

  • provide greater quality articles of enhanced value for Localism/Consumers
  • provide excellent examples of what constitutes good blog writing for our members

Last week's contest was specifically for Real Estate Agents/Brokers. This week's 2nd Round was for Loan Officers and Mortgage Lenders. Round 3 will be for Staging Professionals. It is our intention to offer contests that will encourage/challenge improved writing from all the various categories of ActiveRain membership.

The contestants for our Round Two, Loan Officers and Morgage Lenders, had to write an article on the topic/subject "Fixed Rate Loans and ARM Loans: Which is Better?."

You can read the rest of the contest rules and criteria by going here.

The Prizes

No contest is complete without prizes.

  • All winning articles will get 'Featured' on the Blog Dashboard.
  • Points - 1000 points will be awarded for 1st Place; 750 points for 2nd Place; and 500 points for 3rd Place.
  • The winning articles will also get published on SoundBiteBlog.com.

The Judges

The distinguished panel judges for Round Two were selected from among your peers. They included Jeff Belonger, George Souto, Sarah Cooper, Ines Hegedus-Garcia, Ed Rybczynski, and Tony Gallegos.

And Now!.... Without any further ado, here are the Winners of The Carnival of Content Round Two!

First Place and Winner of 1000 points:         Jason Sardi  

Second Place and Winner of 750 points:        Brian Brady

Third Place and Winner of 500 points:           Jason Price

Honorable Mention goes out to Mike Muellar and Rey Gallegos.  

Thanks again to everyone who particpated and to our panel of judges. As you read through all the entries, it's clear that we definitely accomplished our goals!

 

35 Comments on Carnival of Content: Winners of Round Two

JUL
30
2007
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Congrats Jason Sardi, you made me proud!  And to the other winners. 

Hats off to all who participated.  Competition was tough!

11:04am • #1
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Rich,

Allo f the above deserved to win and a big Congrats to Jason Sardi (aka) Spidey man and Brian Brady and Jason Price and Congrats to Mike Mueller and Big Rey Gallegos, The contest was alot of fun and it made me want o write more, becuase it is our business, but we could only do so much, I do wish more people would have read these posts, there is so much more to learn from the new and old on this site...

Tom Weiss

11:06am • #2
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Congrats to all the winners!  I personally think everyone did an excellent job!  I am surprise however that there were only a large handful of entries!  I think there are so many more great LO's here that could have contributed!  Thank you to all the judges for your hard work in this contest!  I know it could not have been easy!

11:09am • #3
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Rich, thanks for hosting this. 

And Congrats to Jason S., Brian, and Jason P.   Brian, maybe you should change your name to Jason.... lol

And as I stated before, everyone did a great job...

jeff belonger

11:13am • #4
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As my Daughter might say, "Awesome, Blossom!"

Congrats to the Jasons', Brian and really all those that took the time to enter.

Y'all did a great job!


11:13am • #5
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Congratulations to all that entered and a big one to winners and honorable mentions!
11:17am • #6
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Congratulations to all who entered, you gave yourselves some great material for your blogs!  And a big congratulations to the winners!!! 

Rich, thanks for letting me a part of this.  It was a lot of fun, and I think I was as nervous as all the rest waiting for the results!!  :o) 

11:22am • #7
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Wow!  I'd like to thank the academy:-)

Seriously though, I'm just honored to be mentioned in the same breaths with Mr. Brady & Mr. Price.  There were so many wonderfully astute, creative, & well thought out posts.  Thank you so much!
11:32am • #8
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Well congratulations to all! And a special shout out to Jason Sardi. Great job!!!!
11:34am • #9
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Congratulations to Jason, Brian, Jason for placing and to Mike for the honorable mention! 

 This was alot of fun and I can't wait to use my post as content for my website.

Rich, whens the next contest?  I think this really brought out some outstanding writing and viewpoints.  This contest made us all better Mortgage Professionals!

11:36am • #10
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Congratulations to all the winners!!!! :)
11:51am • #11
Congratulations to all.
11:58am • #12
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Rich - I have to agree with you about the quality that was included.  It was a close call and everyone that participated should feel great!  Congrats to the winners! (now please correct my name's spelling or it will drive me CRAZY!)

 

12:03pm • #13
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Thanks, Rich and judges for your time, thought, and giving us all this opportunity!  I look forward to many more contest both from mortgage teams, and from all other categories.  It really helps us to be able to see from many different angles.

Jason, Jason, and Brian, Congratulations, and use your points wisely!  :-)

12:03pm • #14
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Ines - Sorry about that. It was really late when I drafted this post!

As Rey states above: "I think this really brought out some outstanding writing and viewpoints.  This contest made us all better Mortgage Professionals!"

We've all done our job here. Blog Often, Blog Well!

12:20pm • #15
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Very good and some of us learned a lot.  Thanks for the hard work Rich.  This type of "hard core" real estate realted writing and information is music to my ears.

 

1:38pm • #16
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I am sorry but I completely disagree with the winners here, while I am not  trying to sound like sour grapes here, of course I gave it my best shot.  But each winner is fundamentally wrong in there mathematical analysis and their conclusions are based on improbable mathematical analysis.  This contest is not merely based upon which is better a fixed rate or adjustable rate is better.  This contest is what is best for the individual home buyer or refinancier and explaining why.  The posts above are good but lack any depth beyond the typical broker mentality.  They do not have as a foundation the performance as it relates to payment history or real life economic decisions that need to be made day in and day out. 

As a banker who sees these loans on a performance basis I can tell you that most if not all missed the mark.  ARMs when compared to servicing statistics might pan out well for others and not so good for most.  Some posts pointed out that it is the independent consumer who has the ultimate choice, none in fact ever concerned themselves with post closing performance., or the pros and cons to each

5:44pm • #17
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Michael - and such is your right to disagree. We appreciate your input and views. 3 of the judges have extensive experience in Mortgage Lending, so I trust their judgements in the area of technical accuracy. I would be curious for them, or the writers who won, to respond to your concerns. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.....
6:01pm • #18
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Michael Mapes - You have every right to that opinion.  As a matter of fact, to some extent I agree.  I won't speak for anybody else but me.  However, I do believe you may have missed that I came to the conclusion ARMS vs. Fixed Rates were based upon the consumer's financial intelligence in regards to which may be better suited for which.  Beyond that, you express concern over post-closing performance.  I thought, on a general level, I addressed this when discussing the 2/28's and 3/27's that had been made over the years near the end of my post.  Sure, it was a broad overview, but it addressed what happened after they took out the loan and gave a synopsis of what is going on in the reality of our current market.

"The posts above are good but lack any depth beyond the typical broker mentality."  Broad brush you paint with amigo. 

In a contest of this sorts, the outcome is subjective no matter who the judges or contestants may be.  This comment could turn into a post in of itself.  But I'll end it right now with this.   It sounds, to some extent, that you are bringing this into a banker vs. broker thing, if I'm right or wrong for that matter...I'd be glad to compete against the bank any day of the week and twice yesterday.

6:58pm • #19
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Maybe I am taking a banker vs broker mentality, I suppose that is because I see things that a broker will not see, Like long term loan viability, payment history, payment shock when rates go up and the addition of prepayment penelties.  Having been on both sides of the fence, I  currently have to wear two hats.  Balancing long term risk versus best interest of the customer/client.  I am not saying that any of the post are wrong or factually skewed.  What I am saying is that mathmatically speaking to compare a 2/28 or 3/27 sub prime adjustable rate to a FNMA or FHLMC Arm to each other in the same breath is not only incorrect but leads a consumer to make false assumptions.  While the sub prime market is virtually gone, most of the posts continue to quote those loan terms as if they are still in existence,  where as the FNMA and FHLMC are and have been viable instruments over the long term.  While I must admit and rightfully so that each post recommended that it is ultimately the consumers decision.  None of the post accurately pointed out the mathmatical break down of the two (fixed rate vs ARM), which is crutical to the topic.  In so much as I am disappointed in the outcomes not so much because I did not win but more because so much was left on the table.

We can argue the fundamentals of the banker vs broker thing all day long, the fact remains it is my risk to take and mine alone.  The broker after closing has no financial interest in the outcome, unless you have a buy back agreement (of course with DU and LP findings the buy back is less than 6 months). 

YOu are correct that the out come is subjective and I do not want to diminish the hard work by the judges * I certainly do not want to be one).  However based upon most of the posts and comments read the topic should have been more of what is better a fixed rate or sub prime adjustable rate mortgage, because most all the posts centered on the sub prime features of ARMs.  To the typical Banker sub prime does not exist except in whole sale, we actually believe sub prime to be an unwise lending practice, which further deepens the gap between banker vs broker.  However Wall STreet wanted it so they got it, case closed, we all suffer the same poison pill.

Most of the posts eliminated the mathmatical element from the topic which ultimately hurts the consumer, because how are they supposed to know.  Instead the focus is on the yield curve, or what type of loan officer you are dealing with and to a large extent the sub prime fiasco.  In my view the bringing up of the yeild curve is way to technical for a blog post to consumers(that is to whom we are writing too), the type of loan officer you are dealing with is a topic in and of itself and the sub prime fiasco was not the topic (but some how it became the underlying issue).  So my disappointment is not in the post themselves perse, but that a huge opportunity was lost.  Because I am a banker and see things from a totally different view does not dimish the value in risk versus rewards and explaining things in mathmatical and common language with out the fluff and with out the sales pitch, that is of course what I thought the purpose was of the contest.

That is simply how I view it. 

11:33pm • #20
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31
2007
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Michael - Your points are well taken. One of the benefits of this platform is that we all learn from each other. One of the primary aspects of blogging is to effectively communicate with your readers in a voice that conveys your unique voice and personality. Consumers don't want to be bored out of their skin with some incessant rambling about formulas and mathematical computations, however accurate they may be. They need to be engaged in a manner of dialogue that is meaningful and relevant to their culture. That then is the challenge, to write in such a way as to communicate information fully and accurately, and to do so in a manner that is assimilated to the greatest extent possible by your readers.

The goals of this contest were two-fold:
  • provide greater quality articles of enhanced value for Localism/Consumers
  • provide excellent examples of what constitutes good blog writing for our members

The Criteria for Judging was as follows:

  • Topic/Subject: "ARMS vs. Fixed Rate Loans: Which is Better?" 
  • Minimum of 300 words
  • Grammar (if you have trouble with this, get someone to proof read your article)
  • Spelling (your blog has a spell checker, use it)
  • Consumer-Oriented (write your article as though you were counseling/talking to your clients)
  • Aesthetics (attractive layout and relevant graphics will get a more favorable rating, it takes more effort to make it pretty)
  • Your Unique Voice (we want to read your own personality, perspective, and passions in your article)

In light of the articles that were submitted, I would say that we accomplished both of our goals. In addition, by virtue of the winners that were selected by our very balanced and experienced panel of judges, the top 3 clearly won their positions by most fulfilling the stated criteria.

1:14am • #21
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Mr. Mapes-

Number 1)  I applaud your efforts in furthering the discussion and trying to bring out all the factors and facts involved in such a difficult question to answer in such a oft-times short forum as a Blog to answer them.  While I don't agree with many things you say or don't say for that matter, that will prove to be another post in of itself.

Number 2)  Unless I'm missing something, I wish these points you make would of been made in the form of comments on the posts, whether mine or anybody else's.....after they were written.  It would have been nice to see the exchange of ideas and opinions before any decisions were made as to whose post was the "best" or "top one" in explaining the difference between ARMS & Fixed Rates.  I would have loved to see the dialogue within the posts at the time or shortly after the entry, not after the fact.  Better late than never I suppose.

Number 3)  I'm a tired soul and personally, I'll probably address to the best of my ability, everything you laid out in a separate post.  To a large extent, it warrants discussion.  Sour grapes?  Nah, you are just being Michael Mapes.  I respect that, I respect it enough to address it in full at a later time when I can give the proper attention to the matters you laid out.  Enough said, for now.

 

1:17am • #22
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Michael ~

I understand your frustration with the results, and having read through your war of words with Jason and Rich I must take a moment to argue just one very "small" point.  You wrote that, "The broker after closing has no financial interest in the outcome...".  I so completely disagree with that statement.  And, whether right or wrong, I take it very personally.  I cannot tell you how many times I have come in and cleaned up another broker or bankers messes.  And when someone is in a really bad loan, I will do it for no cost other than what I need to pay other people.  Why would someone do that, you may ask?  Let me be very frank.  I do not need the money ~ the borrower does.  So, what was my financial interest there?  We are not all motivated by money.  And for those of us who are, the class is a very big one...so do not feel bad about it.  Second of all, when obtaining financing for a client, there may not be immediate rewards for them other than the check after closing.  However, if a broker does the right thing and does it at a fair price and with the best of truthful intentions ~ they will get referral after referral, after referral.  So, I guess, on the flip side, there is financial gain by doing what is best for the borrower.  I, like Jason, could go on and on, but I am afraid that I would get nothing else done during the day.  So, to sum it up, I guess I will say this.  It is unwise to make blanket statements about people you do not know everything about.  I wish you the best of luck, and respectfully decline to disagree with your opinion of mortgage brokers.

10:09am • #23
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Michael,

I have to agree with Jason Sardi that these comments should have come before the decision was made.  I think some of the people that participated would have valued them a little more.

 

11:15am • #24

Michael,

     I find myself disagreeing with so many of your points that I have trouble deciding where to start. First of all, twice you mentioned this wasn't sour grapes when, quite obviously, it is. I have to believe that stems from your broker vs. banker mentality and the blow to your ego that you suffered when several of them had posts chosen above yours. I'm glad Sarah corrected you on a brokers interest in the outcome of each transaction. Ours is a referral business. Sadly, bad brokers exist but they rarely exist for very long. The ones that have been around a long time are the very best at what they do and they provide a multitude of options for their clients, far beyond the scope of most bankers. Perhaps this is another reason you display so much venom towards brokers.

     Sub-prime exists. It exists for a reason. It's right and just that it does exist. There are a large number of sub-prime borrowers that are excellent loan candidates. You mentioned performance but that's already factored into the higher rate. A borrower with a 590 credit score, at 80 ltv, full doc, with 4 years of perfect mortgage history, who just happens to have had trouble paying on some credit cards is a good loan. A thousand similar loans in a bundle is going to perform extremely well, especially when you factor in the higher rates they will be paying! Are you able to make this person a loan?

    You finished your last post by saying that was just how you viewed it. It's readily apparent that your view is very limited. While sad, it is no excuse to rain on someone else's parade. While I don't know the other mortgage professionals who placed in the contest, I do know the winner, Jason Sardi, very well. I've sat next to him for almost 3 years and I consider him a good friend. He's also an outstanding loan officer. I doubt, no I'm sure there is little or nothing you could tell him that he doesn't already know. Conversely, I'm quite sure there is quite a bit he could teach you. In the future, when someone tops you at something, instead of being a sore loser, show the class so many of your peers did and congratulate them on a job well done.

    

11:22am • #25
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I'll toss in my .02 if I may. 

Not on Michael's points, (many of which I don't agree with - but some I do).  But on the discussion itself.

I'm of the opinion that I don't want to discuss the contest before, I don't want to read the comments before, and I certainly don't want to read the posts before the judging.

I would much rather it was all blind.  Submit your articles and they don't show until the contest is over.  But that's just me.

I actually made a mistake in my entry.  It was a mistake in judgment.  I thought I knew exactly how all the rest were going to present their posts.  I thought I knew what they were going to say. I wanted to be different.  had to be different.  So instead of what I should have written, my wanting to be different told me to write something that wasn't the best.

In the end it was about consumer content.  That was the idea behind my post. I chose not to debate the ARM vs. Fixed and that was the wrong tactic to win - but I did add valuable consumer content and that, at the heart of it all, is what the contest was all about.

We can argue Brokers vs. Bankers until we are all blue in the face. I respect all your opinions.  Just keep in mind what the contest was really about.


 

11:32am • #26

Michael -

Believe it or not this is the first time I have ever posted on Active Rain, and I am hesitant to introduce myself to the community by entering into this discussion, but I must.  My friend and co-worker Jason Sardi wrote a very thorough, well thought-out post that would benefit many mortgage clients, yet you have the gull to say that "each winner is fundamentally wrong in there mathematical analysis and their conclusions are based on improbable mathematical analysis." and "They do not have as a foundation the performance as it relates to payment history or real life economic decisions that need to be made day in and day out."- both bold statements and ones I wish you would back up with facts.  In the most recent Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Monetary Policy Report to the Congress dated July 18, 2007, Chairman Ben Bernanke reports on page 12 that "delinquency rates on consumer loans and prime mortgages-the two main components of total household debt-stayed low through the spring of 2007, as did those on sub-prime fixed-rate mortgages."  The accompanying chart in the report shows Prime Fixed and Prime Variable Rate Mortgage delinquency rates are both currently hovering at about 1%, which is the lowest joint delinquency rates we've seen in the past 7 years.  I would therefore also respectfully ask you to explain your comment that "As a banker who sees these loans on a performance basis I can tell you that most if not all missed the mark.  ARMs when compared to servicing statistics might pan out well for others and not so good for most."  What am I missing?  Are the ARMs in your portfolio significantly under-performing relative to the market as a whole?  Jason's breakdown on the Yield Curve and what is best for a client hold's up very well, especially taking into account "payment history" on those products for all intensive purposes are identical on both Fixed and ARM Prime instruments.  I also am at a loss to understand why you state that "What I am saying is that mathematically speaking to compare a 2/28 or 3/27 sub prime adjustable rate to a FNMA or FHLMC Arm to each other in the same breath is not only incorrect but leads a consumer to make false assumptions."  Unless I misread his post, he clearly spoke about Conventional ARMS vs. Fixed in a completely different breath than sub-prime 2/28s and 3/27s.  The fact of the matter is that when a product in any industry gets bad press the general public has difficulty in making the distinction between the flawed product and other similar products.  Making the distinction between Conventional and Sub-Prime ARMs is critical, and the time he took to spell out the pros and cons of sub-prime ARMs will help the public to understand that they are clearly NOT the same.  (FYI - sub-prime ARM delinquency rates through May, 2007 are just over 12% - much higher then the 5% delinquency rate on sub-prime Fixed - clearly demonstrating a serious problem in qualifying borrowers on the initial rate rather than the potential "worse-case scenario" adjusted rate)  I would genuinely like to hear your point of view backed with verifiable statistics, but it seems irresponsible to make vague accusations of incompetence without providing the information you fault others for not providing.  Let's see the math.

11:32am • #27
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I have to apologize. In my eagerness to chastise Mr. Mapes, I forgot to log in. Subsequently, the blog posted anonymously. It's a medical fact that righteous anger can affect memory and I defer to this fact as I, again, make my apologies.
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To everyone engaged in this discussion:

I truly value the constructive exchange of thoughts, opinions, and ideas here. This is what conversational blogging is all about.

In reading Michael's comments, I don't come away with a sense of any 'venom' being spewed, or 'sour' grapes from not being selected as a winner. This is not a 'War of Words,' but simply a healthy debate among fellow professionals.

Michael is simply sharing an opinion from his particular vantage point. He could have done a better job of communicating his view with a bit more diplomacy, but I don't think his intent was malicious.

12:59pm • #29
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I tend to agree with you on that Rich.
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Finally got over here to offer congratulations to the winners and the honorable mentions.  I liked everyone's work overall and it was good to see the varying opinions on how they made their choices.  While I would like to contest that Brian plagiarized, just kidding, I feel the choices for winners was justified.  All were well written and validated their viewpoints. 

Thanks also to the judges and Rich for the time they spent working on their decisions as I am sure it was tough to do.  Many of the entries were very good and provided reasonable contention.  I am glad to see both Jason's in the list as well as Brian.  I ask that we all continue the contest's fashion in our continued posts to provide the same high quality content always and, if not for that, just to be prepared for the next one.

1:39pm • #31
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Rich - It was an honor judging and even more enjoyable reading the endless quality submissions. I hate saying this, but everyone was a winner. The quality was high and it was extremely hard narrowing it down to three.

Congrats to the winners!

12:12am • #32
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Tony - I really appreciated your involvement. Your opinions always hold tremendous weight with me. And you're absolutely right, it was extremely tough to judge, there were so many excellent submissions. Thanks again for your time and willingness to judge.
12:16am • #33
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Hey Rich, where do property managers fit into the contest?  Can we submit with the realtors?  Thanks!
12:54pm • #34
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Jonathan - yeah, that's where I would submit. We may plan a HUGE 'Catch-All' contest, where everyone can enter. Haven't quite got there yet.....
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