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THE Big Question: Where Are All The REOs..When Will The Surge Hit?

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If there is a question we get more often than any other it has to be….

Where are all the REOs…..I see vacant homes everywhere..yet, only a small fraction are listed and for sale…what gives..?”

I understand why we get this question….

After all Harris Real Estate University is the nation’s largest online real estate university. The HREU RSD (REO Specialist Designation) has become one of the preferred designations for many Asset Management companies….in other words, they look for RSD Agents to list their properties.

In today’s post we will answer the question, “where are all the REO’s”….and provide you with a clear window into what is coming next….

Agents, you need to be very clear about what you can do now to become a REO Listing Agent. Understand, in NO WAY is it too late for you to become a REO listing agent.

After you have read this post you will want to take the next step…this Thursday April 15th we are providing a FREE 90 Minute teleconference (or webinar) where you will hear directly from agents who ARE listing REOs (and making big bucks from doing BPOs).

Watch the FREE Agent REO Secrets video and grab your FREE How-To list REOs book….when you do we will also invite you to this weeks teleconference. <—Go here to watch the free video, grab the How-To list REOs book…and you will be invited to this weeks teleconference.

OK, lets get started by looking at the real numbers and facts about REOs.

This is from Real Estate Economy Watch:

Despite a slight seasonal improvement over last month, mortgage delinquencies still hover near record highs, 21 percent above a year ago. One of ten mortgages are delinquent as of the end of February and new delinquencies continue to run at record rates.

The total number of non-current first-lien mortgages and REO properties is now more than 7.9 million loans. Furthermore, the percentage of new problem loans is also at its highest level in five years. More than 1.1 million loans that were current at the beginning of January 2010 were already at least 30 days delinquent or in foreclosure by February 2010 month-end.

That’s the frightening news from Lender Processing Services latest Mortgage Monitor Report, which also reported that the nation’s foreclosure inventories also reached record highs. February’s foreclosure rate of 3.31 percent represented a 51.1 percent year-over-year increase.

Other key results from LPS’ report:

• Total U.S. loan delinquency rate: 10.2 percent

• Total U.S. foreclosure inventory rate: 3.3 percent

• Total U.S. non-current* loan rate: 13.5 percent

• States with most non-current loans: Florida, Nevada, Arizona, Mississippi, California, New Jersey, Georgia, Illinois, Ohio and Indiana.

• States with fewest non-current loans: North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Nebraska, Montana, Vermont, Colorado, Washington and Minnesota.

Non-current totals combine foreclosures and delinquencies as a percent of active loans in that state. Totals based on LPS Applied Analytics’ loan-level database of mortgage assets.

Here is a great video from CNBC:

Next, a report from sun-sentenial:

Short sales and foreclosures accounted for 29 percent of all U.S. home sales in January, First American CoreLogic says.

Riverside, Calif., led the nation’s top 25 markets with so-called distressed sales accounting for 62 percent of the transactions. Las Vegas (59 percent) and Sacramento (58) were the next worst. Fort Lauderdale was at 42 percent and Miami was at 32 percent, although those numbers are down compared with a year ago.

Although Florida and foreclosures seemingly are synonymous, only two Florida markets — Orlando and Cape Coral — cracked the top 10 for distressed sales. CoreLogic, a California research firm, says the most likely reason is that foreclosure cases take longer to process in the Sunshine State than in California, Arizona or Nevada.

What do you think about the number of distressed sales in South Florida?

And now to the heart of matter….Where are all the REOs and when will the banks FINALLY RELEASE them?

Rick Sharga from RealtyTrac:

Certain things in life are simply meant to be mysteries. There are age-old philosophical questions that have kept philosophers busy for millennia: What is the sound of one hand clapping? If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it still make a sound? Other mysteries hang heavy with intrigue: What really happened to Amelia Earhart? And who really kidnapped the Lindbergh baby? And still others simply defy logic: If Denny’s is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the doors?

Now we can add another question to the list of ongoing mysteries: With foreclosure activity breaking records nearly every month, where are all the REOs?

It’s a fair question. In normal market situations, a bank will repossess a home and usually process it through to a listing agent to put on the MLS within 30 days. In a relatively short period of time, virtually every marketable REO property finds itself listed for sale on the local MLS. Today, that’s simply not the case; it’s likely that between 450,000 and 500,000 properties repossessed over the past year are still not on the market. And with buyers hungry for housing bargains, and agents and brokers champing at the bit ready to sell the properties, it begs for a reasonable answer.

Lenders and servicers admit that it’s taking longer to process REOs than it has in the past, and they offer a number of legitimate reasons:

  1. -Many of the properties have title issues that need to be resolved
  2. -Many of the properties are in states of utter disrepair
  3. -A number of states have strict redemption rights periods, which prevents the lender from reselling the property
  4. -A few states have extended the length of eviction proceedings
  5. -The sheer volume of REO activity has created a “pig in the python” phenomena, (to put this in perspective, there will be roughly four times the number of REOs this year as in the last “normal” year, 2005)

What else could be slowing things down? A popular theory is that many banks are holding the properties off the market in order to defer losses. There is some accounting logic to this theory, as in most cases banks aren’t required to adjust asset prices until the actual resale of the property. Another idea is that the industry is holding back the inventory to create leverage with the government in order to force the creation of a “toxic bank” or RTC-like entity that would buy the distressed assets at 50 to 60 cents on the dollar rather than the 30 to 35 cents available on the market today. This theory suggests that, seeing the threat of a massive inventory of distressed homes being released all at once, the government would “blink” rather than risk another housing market meltdown.

I will add…the various government programs have served to delay the inevitable. How many months (years?) are added to the foreclosure process now…If someone missed payment..maybe missed 1 – 2 years of payments…..applies for HAMP (Loan Mod)…then, when that doesn’t work out…lists their home as a short sale…..(if they don’t list it with an agent who knows how to sell short sales)….off to foreclosure. How long would that whole protracted process take…years…and years.

Whatever the reason — process issues or conspiracies — we’re going to continue to see record-breaking numbers of REOs for at least the next year, and will all be watching to see when these sought-after homes finally make their way to the market.

OK, get the picture yet? We have a long way to go…literally millions of bank owned homes that must be sold. Now, the question that I have for you…are you ready to become a REO Listing Agent? Its NOT TOO LATE for you. Watch the FREE Agent REO Secrets video and download your FREE How-To List REOs Book.

For those of you who are thinking that the Great Housing Crash is over…and a housing boom will soon return…
Another CNBC Video featuring Yale Shiller (of Case/ Shiller Housing Index fame)

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Comments (28)

Andrew Monaghan
The Monaghan Group - Glendale, AZ
CRS, GRI, EPro Associate Broker

They are coming.

Apr 13, 2010 08:00 AM
Susan Manning
Realty Executives - Temecula, CA

"Certain things in life are simply meant to be mysteries. There are age-old philosophical questions that have kept philosophers busy for millennia: What is the sound of one hand clapping? If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it still make a sound? Other mysteries hang heavy with intrigue: What really happened to Amelia Earhart? And who really kidnapped the Lindbergh baby? And still others simply defy logic: If Denny's is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the doors?

Now we can add another question to the list of ongoing mysteries: With foreclosure activity breaking records nearly every month, where are all the REOs?"

Mwahahahahah!!  LOVED This!!  I'll be sure to quote this to my clients~!!

Apr 13, 2010 12:16 PM
Delaware Junk Removal Residential And Commercial Hauling Clean Outs
Delaware Junk Removal 302-530-9186 - Wilmington, DE
Whole House Clean Outs, Basements, Garages, Attics

I hope its more then doing BPOs because Realtors are not allowed to do them in my state.

Apr 13, 2010 01:57 PM
Iris Shamas
ITS Realty - Scottsdale, AZ

Wow - a lot of information and so many ways to get it (read, videos, links).

Apr 13, 2010 03:23 PM
KAREN THOMPSON, GRI, REALTOR
KTHOMES, LLC - Frederick, CO
Colorado Homebuyer Pro

My REO broker is seeing their inventory increase dramatically. I think the REO inventory is finally being released.  Thanks for the great information!

Apr 13, 2010 04:13 PM
Tim and Julie Harris
Tim & Julie Harris® Real Estate Coaching - Las Vegas, NV

Hello Group,

Thanks for all the feedback on this post...glad to hear your personal experiences reinforcing our expectations.

Check this out, just posted a video over on our main blog that lays out point by point exactly why there will be a double dip in housing:

http://timandjulieharris.com/2010/04/14/housing-double-dip-will-house-prices-fall-again/

Hope this helps!

Tim

 

Apr 14, 2010 07:34 AM
David Gabris
Gabris Real Estate - Rancho Cordova, CA
Professional Service with Excellence

I agree with you that there are many more REO's coming and we have a long way to go till the real estate market stabilizes.  Your post has brought a question to my mind that has been puzzling me: How to best advise my buyers about the future of our market.  The last thing I want is having my buyers purchase a property if it will be at a significant discount due to an increase in REO activity in the near future.  The problem is, we have been hearing about a glut of REO's coming for years now.  And with the government getting involved, it makes the whole situation very unpredictable.  Anyhow, I think a good general rule is that if you can't rent it out for positive cash flow, it would be better to find something you can.

Apr 17, 2010 07:21 PM
Heidi Engel
RE/MAX Suburban - Mount Prospect, IL
BROKER/Realtor, ADPR, SRES, FSSR

I am also in agreement----I am constantly counting the homes falling into pre-foreclosure in my vicinity.

Apr 18, 2010 01:37 AM
Home Design
Alpharetta, GA
Home Design and Real Estate

As I drive around town and see the numerous vacant houses with grass up to the mailbox, I wonder when the storm is coming.  We are about to see a large amount of these put into the market soon.

Apr 18, 2010 01:41 AM
Mark Montross
Catamount Realty Group - Burlington, VT
Listing and Buyer Specialist

Wow, these numbers are staggering. Thanks for the reminder on a dose of reality.

Apr 18, 2010 02:50 AM
Susan Goulding
Mountain House Real Estate - Mountain House, CA
Short Sales, Mountain House Homes for Sale

I'm hearing - at least here in CA _ REIT's are purchasing in BULK as fast as they can all potential REO inventory.  Buying for pennies, and waiting for the market to improve.  They will work their own group of agents, much like REO's... anyone else heard this?

Apr 18, 2010 04:02 PM
Freddy A. Saavedra
Essential Properties - Goodyear, AZ

It will definitely get interesting towards the mmiddle of the year, with the tax incentive going away and with the TARP funds getting depleted for local down payment assistance programs, the demand on homes will have to diminish. But how much will it diminish? That's the all important question, guess we'll figure it out soon enough.

May 03, 2010 05:51 PM
Sara Homan
Coldwell Banker Ellison Realty 352-209-4044 - Ocala, FL
Realtor, Homes, Farms & 55+

Thanks for the opportunity!  I've been looking for different, truthful voices other than local associates who don't want competition, especially ones in my own company!  We're listening to the videos and will be in touch.

May 04, 2010 02:14 AM
Lynne Harris
Century 21 Battlefield - Dahlgren, VA

Great post, we too see so many homes sitting vacant but are not on the market! We are wondering when they are coming up. Over the last week it feels like our market has died! We are hoping to see the spring market come back out!

May 04, 2010 03:33 AM
Christianne O'Malley
Dickson Realty - Reno, NV
Exceptional Service - Delivering Results in Reno!

We just received 7 new assets last week alone. They are coming, and we're ready in Northern Nevada.

May 04, 2010 07:01 AM
Dean Carver
United Brokers Group/Carver Home Team - Ahwatukee, AZ

Let's get to the real meat. Several of the large banks have said (although not publically that I'm aware of) that they are intentionally constraining the market. READ: no massive wave coming. As far back as '09, they had figured out that if you flood the market -- prices go down. They are still planning to keep it constrained and prop prices up. I'd love to be wrong about that because it would certainly be better for our business.

There are already plenty of REO agents out there. Go ahead and get in, but be prepared for 1-2% commissions and have the capital outlay to front all of the $ for the banks. It's not negative -- just a reality from folks who have been doing it for a long time. It is a supplement to our regular business -- not the whole of it. If we weren't already in, we wouldn't be doing it now.

May 04, 2010 08:27 AM
Doug Reynolds
Better Homes & Gardens Real Estate - Sacramento, CA
Realtor - Sacramento, CA

i last heard from my manager, word on the street is reo inventory increasing this summer.  Don't ask me why they have waited until the credit is over but it sure looks like they have.  a trickle rather than a wave would be nice.

May 04, 2010 12:02 PM
Andrew Martin
REMAX Accord - San Ramon, CA

I agree with #19, I've heard that also. I was also told by a BofA person that they have all the REO agents they need and in fact will cut the "bad" agents they have and give more to the "expereinced" ones. I think the train has left the station for those wanting to jump into the REO agent game.

I hope I'm wrong.

May 04, 2010 05:07 PM
Tim and Julie Harris
Tim & Julie Harris® Real Estate Coaching - Las Vegas, NV

Hello,

 

Here is what we know for sure:

1) Banks have told us directly....q3 and q4...expect a 'huge upswing in REOs'. Many blame politics, the economy, inability to take the losses (on their books) for the delay in clearing the literally millions of homes that the banks control.

2) REOs are not for wimps. You have to be very organized and professional. The Asset Managers will fire existing listing agents if they don't meet min criteria...every month. That means you are held accountable for results..consistently.

3) Asset Management companies are merging, going out of business etc. You need to be sure that you have at least 3-4 solid asset management relationships.

4) The next surge in REOs will be upper end type homes. The lower end homes have more or less cleared.

5) Banks and the Government have no idea how to deal with strategic foreclosures (or short sales). None of their modeling factored in homeowners making the financial decision to default (or sell via a SS). Read this: http://timandjulieharris.com/2010/05/05/strategic-default-studies-prove-upside-down-homeowners-making-financial-decision-to-default/

6) Asset Managers want agents who have experience with Short Sales. They have expressly told us that they are going to be processing Short Sales AND REO Assets. Learn about HAFA Short Sale Guidelines....expect that you will need to know this stuff cold: http://timandjulieharris.com/categories/real-estate-coaching-news/

Bottom line, we are just getting started. Expect at least 3-5 years worth of this 'clearing'.

Hope all of this helps!

Tim

 

May 06, 2010 07:45 AM
Joe Jackson
Keller Williams Capital Partners Realty - Columbus, OH
Clintonville and Central Ohio Real Estate Expert

Now in October 2012 I still find a lot of shadow inventory

Oct 08, 2012 09:31 PM