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How High?!? | Raising the Bar

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Real Estate Agent with Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Snyder & Company, REALTORS

The wide ranging discussion on how to raise the bar (#RTB) in real estate continues.  Many are asking questions, many are making suggestions... some are even taking action.  Today, consider that a stake has been driven into the ground.  The gauntlet thrown down, if you will.

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Here at Professional One, we have recently introduced our list of standards we believe will not only create a professional image in the mind of the consumer, but confirm that perception with reality.  The full post explaining the why and how of this list can be found on the Professional One site. 

In the meantime, here are our eight standards to become a Professional One agent:

  • Possess a college diploma (four-year degree), OR a broker's license OR five years of documented full-time experience as a real estate professional.
  • Pass the Future Achievement International "Merit Profile" character assessment (this is an assessment which measures 10 character competencies and four behavioral traits and provides a scoring for an individual's attitudes, beliefs and commitments).
  • Have a clean record of professional service (no ethics charges, no unfavorable litigation, etc.).
  • Have at least three letters of recommendation from other Realtors.
  • Have at least three letters of recommendation from past clients.
  • Pass an interview with three existing Professional One Realtors.
  • Agree to use our proprietary listing syndication method on every listing (this requires lots of effort, but the results are SO worth it).
  • Agree to the Professional One "Mission Statements and Core Values" to the LETTER, 100% of the time, with zero exceptions...ever.

We believe that we can create a brand that matters to the consumer by adhering to these points. 

Have we gone too far?  Have we created too high a barrier?

Who knows?  But really, we want to hear what the consumer has to say about this heightened level of professionalism.

What have you and your brokerage done to raise your own bar of professionalism in real estate?

Robert Foster
United Country-Michigan Outdoor Properties - Northern Office - Wolverine, MI

Taking the "Merit Test", you might miss out on a great proffessional.   Some times taking those, you try to analyze what the hiring company is looking for not what you really are.  In a short period of time, you should be able to tell how someone interacts with others in your office and with customers.   Since most firms hire you on as a Independent Contractor, the question arises how do you rate the potential company and broker.   Do you show off the Companies Merit Test.

Apr 17, 2010 10:49 AM
Mike Jaquish
Realty Arts - Cary, NC
919-880-2769 Cary, NC, Real Estate

Todd,

Merit test?  Mission statement?  Maybe not.  But, thanks.   Linking and blogging for further discussion.

Apr 17, 2010 01:02 PM
Tom Bailey
Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc. - Oak Island, NC

I am all for raising the bar but your list has some flaws IMHO. First I think your 4 year degree requirement and your reasons for it just do not hold water. To say that college graduates are trainable, more well rounded, and more persistent than non graduates is very shortsighted. I have known many degree holders who are not that way and many non degree holders that are. There are many reasons for not going to college that have nothing to do with ones ability to learn. In a lot of cases it is financial. In addition as independent contractors real state agents need entrepreneurial spirit. Many of the great entrepreneurs of our time such as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Ray Kroc, Truett Cathy, and Dave Thomas all dropped out of high school or college. In my 25 years managing my family's business I met many more successful small business people who did not have a degree than those that did. Secondly when it comes to testing I disagree. I think a sales aptitude test is OK, but unless you are prepared to pay a salary and benefits no way would I take a personality test.

Apr 17, 2010 01:04 PM
Todd Waller
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Snyder & Company, REALTORS - Ann Arbor, MI
Todd Waller | Real Simple Real Estate

Lenn,

From your response, it's clear that this brokerage would not fit your style...and that's perfectly alright.  What I'm curious about is the visceral reaction to a Merit profile.

Having taken these kinds of profile tests in the past (yes, even as a real estate agent) I'm shocked that ethical, honest, hardworking and innovative agents would respond so vehemently against them.  And, as a broker, we feel it makes PERFECT sense for the broker to want to understand who they're bringing into the company. By the time you find out an agent is bad, it's too late. The time to find out is BEFORE the agent is engaged, not after the horse has left the barn.

Our founder, Michael McClure, was offered a job running a large RE/MAX office just before he decided to create Professional One. He was put through a battery of tests, including a DISC test, a psychological profile and interviews with the various owners of the franchise. He was offered the job - which he turned down - but he was impressed with the process, and this was the genesis of his belief that this sort of screening process would be of great value in creating a better real estate company, and, on a larger scale, a better real estate brand.
 
Also, as I haven't seen you as an active participant in the #RTB movement - of which we've been at the forefront - allow me to summarize the conversation we've been having on a national level for the last six months with many of the major voices in real estate industry:

  • The Harris Polls clearly state that the public doesn't trust us, as Realtors have ranked dead last in those polls for 30 straight years
  • The vast majority of the status quo in the industry have resisted any real conversation about enhancing professionalism in real estate. Too many big players have a vested interest in keeping the "any warm body will do" big-box office model that is the classic operation we see in our market
  • In the end, we've heard a clear voice from the masses, and the voice has said this: raise your own darn bar. A major Century 21 broker on the east coast even wrote a blog post about us that had that as its title! So, that's what we're doing
  • We expect pushback from the masses. When probably 80% of the industry won't meet our barrier to entry, we know that people are likely to lash out at us. We understand that, when the public realizes that a real estate company is FINALLY standing up and taking an honest shot at professionalism in an industry known for everything but professionalism, there's likely to be fear on the part of those who won't make the grade
  • We've been advised by one of the largest real estate brand consultants in America. His view? He thinks our barrier to entry is TOO LOW. He sees enormous upside for our concept, because he agrees that the public is just fed up with the hollow promises and poor service that is the hallmark of our industry

Also, our blog - see at P1Fran.com - is full of posts that would help you to better understand the depth and breadth of our research and our attempts to get the industry at large to deal with the issues that we see as obvious. We'd invite you to check those posts out.

And as for advocating the raising of the bar, we've published our standards.  What are yours?

Apr 17, 2010 01:20 PM
Lainie Ramsey
Homes By Lainie Real Estate Group - Pottsboro, TX
Lake Texoma Expert

I do agree the bar needs to be raised for real estate professionals!  Every day I am shocked at incompetance that I see, lack of ambition -- alot of these people I wouldn't trust to competently paint my house, yet we let them help people with the single largest investment of their life?

Apr 17, 2010 01:37 PM
Tom Bailey
Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc. - Oak Island, NC

I hate to hog the comments but I feel compelled to make an additional comment on testing. I must admit that in my previous career in the heavy truck business I did give some salesmen a combination sales aptitude and personality test. I did it because some of my vendors required it for their sales training programs. I found the assessment results to be spotty at best. The last two salesmen that I hired are perfect examples of this. One of them scored off the charts in every category. He was a complete failure, I had to terminate him after 8 months. The other one barely passed the manufacturer's standards. He is to this day a GREAT salesman. I believe the interview process is the most important part of the hiring process. The two salesmen I mentioned above are again great examples. I got bad vibes from the one that scored well from the beginning. I only hired him because the manufacturer pressed very hard to bring him into their program. The one that scored just above passing impressed me as a good candidate from the beginning. I had to press my manufacturer to take him in their program. Testing should be a tool in the hiring process but IMHO a small one. I have used a test from another company that promotes their test as a small tool. They state up front that the test will show how someone sells, not if they can sell or will they sell.

Apr 17, 2010 02:04 PM
Todd Waller
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Snyder & Company, REALTORS - Ann Arbor, MI
Todd Waller | Real Simple Real Estate

John,

Thanks for your input!  I've struggled, for a long time, with the paralysis of analysis.  I used to believe that I could never have enough "information" before I set forth on any path.

Your statement about actually doing something, therefore, really strikes home, and I'm grateful for your words.  Your suggestion about past client references is wise.  I need to chew on how to quantify what you've proposed.

And thank you for being one of the few to correctly read that the college degree was one aspect of the education/experience requirement.

Apr 17, 2010 02:07 PM
Evelyn Santiago, Managing Broker Heart Realty Group, Inc.
Heart Realty Group, Inc.. - Oswego, IL
Passionate About Real Estate & Our Clients!

What you are creating ing a corporate culture similar to the various different cultures that I have worked in during my 30 years in various Fortune 500 companies.  Coming from that background I have found real estate interesting to say the least. 

Having taken personality tests, psychological tests and other tests I have determined that some people are good at "taking tests" and others that fail are good at "doing".  One of my early career tests told me that I would make a great Lawyer, Salesperson or Psychologist - I am currently using all those skills in my present job as a Real Estate Broker.  But tests have many flaws and many jobs have eliminated them because they are just a small indicator of a person's scope.

Interviewing with peers - not in this type of profession since we work independently and the last thing I need is work in a company where I have to be approved to get into the circle - must interviewers make up their minds in mere seconds without the person even opening up their mouths to say anything - it's just part of human nature.  I worked in human resources and saw it all the time.  In corporate America is who you know and not "what you know" that will more often than not get you the job.  Sounds good on paper but not in practice. 

It will be interesting to see how your qualifications work in the real world especially in a business that is driven by relationships and "clicking" with your clients.  I think too many Realtors believe the survey's that consumers think we are "next to used care salespersons". 

I believe that those that take pride in their profession whether a Realtor or a janitor and continue learning and keeping their "saws" sharpen will come out ahead with those that matter th most, their clients.

Good luck on your endeavor - we are lucky to have enough room for a variety of different business models so everyone can find their own "niche".

Apr 17, 2010 04:39 PM
Virginia Hepp - Mesquite NV REALTOR
Desert Gold Realty - Mesquite NV Homes For Sale - Mesquite, NV
Mesquite NV Homes and Neighborhoods - Search MLS

Todd - raising the bar, yes, the industry needs it -

I do agree with Gene - comment #13, you are getting a little big brother about it.  Plus you would be relying on someone's else's interpretation of character - ??

As far as the 'proprietary listing syndication method' - not sure what that means, but if it is anything like the one that our franchise uses, I would say forget that.  My internet marketing plan beats ERA's by tenfold, with better results.  But maybe we are not talking about the same thing.  ??

And letters of recommendation from other Realtors - no value, anyone could get 3 letters of recommendation.

Maybe a better monitoring system from the broker for ALL agents, with training for those who need it and maybe training from those who don't.

Let us know how this works for your company as far as improving your brand and image.  At least Pro-1 cares - so many companies don't.

 

 


Apr 17, 2010 08:19 PM
Anonymous
Michael A. Fenwrick- SFR- Carolina One-Charleston, SC

I totally agree with the fact that our "Profession"should be more Professional. There are many who need to raise their level and some. Although some of your requirements are, i'll just say interesting. You have to start somewhere and it appears that you have begun just that. I agree that the standard should be from the top of our orginization, but how about starting with the entrance requirements with licensure. It took me only 60 hours to get a license but a couple of years to learn the "business"of Real Estate. How about a full curriculum requirement, that might shortend the line a bit.

Apr 17, 2010 11:13 PM
#34
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

If you haven't seen my participation in the "raise the bar" movement, you must have been living in a cave. 

I've been advocating higher entry standards since the late 1980s on the RealTalk real estate forum, and getting a lot of vehement flack for it, too, I might add. 

In fact, even on ActiveRain, I've advocated raising the entry bar for licensing and better broker supervision and standards for the licensees in their brokerages.  Clearly, we're living and writing in different worlds.  I've been "beating the drum" for agent excellence through my ActiveRain blog since Aug. 2006.   

 

 

Apr 17, 2010 11:13 PM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

:)

Apr 18, 2010 12:34 AM
Damon Gettier
Damon Gettier & Associates, REALTORS- Roanoke Va Short Sale Expert - Roanoke, VA
Broker/Owner ABRM, GRI, CDPE

Todd, while I commend you on your efforts to raise the bar, I do think you will pass on some incredibly competent agents with this business model.  I have never attended a day of college and I would never change firms once I was established and had my brokers license.  Just a thought.

Apr 18, 2010 12:52 AM
Anonymous
Michael A. Fenwrick- SFR- Carolina One-Charleston, SC

Excuse me Ms. Harley, I take exception to the cave refference. I support being passionate about what you believe in but don't step over the line.

Apr 18, 2010 02:10 AM
#38
Nicole Donaghy
Re/Max Purpose Driven - Lexington, SC
Helping Families Home in Lexington and Columbia

It looks like you've made great strides in raising the bar in your area.  Let's hope it catches on!

Apr 18, 2010 04:52 AM
Tony Hager
United Realty Texas - Denton, TX
Broker

The bar definitely needs to be Raised to a Much Higher Standard!!!! In just the past two weeks I have made several offers on behalf of a client to purchase homes, the homes we offered on were extremely over priced by comps as much as 6 months old which we know appraisers are not going back that far if they have closer comps, when presenting the offers the listing agents get offended and down right rude when you offer a decent price based on the current comps, I even ask one of them to provide his comps that he justified his listing on and he sent comps over a year old.  I have had agents hold our offer for 48 hours after telling us they were presenting it the first day while they either shopped it or waited on additional offers.  During this time they would not answer their phone nor return calls. I understand that a lisitng agent is trying to get the best deal for their client but you don't cross the line of being unprofessional to your fellow REALTORS®.  As someone else stated in a comment above it is no wonder the general public rates us so low on the Trust Scale when we can't even be honest with our own.

Apr 18, 2010 08:16 AM
Todd Waller
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Snyder & Company, REALTORS - Ann Arbor, MI
Todd Waller | Real Simple Real Estate

Lenn,

Oddly enough, the email notification of new comment from your last comment, came through vastly different than what is currently posted.  And again, oddly enough, I agree with your original comment 100%.

Here's the original comment before you edited it and dropped in some troglodytic reference:

"The fact that an agent or broker doesn't participate in YOUR circle doesn't diminish a brokers' dedication to raising the bar.  My target is quite often the NAR, which countenances low standards in their quest for membership and, of course, legislatures who write the license laws at the behest of mega brokers who benefit from low standards of entry in our industry.

Clearly, I advocate higher standards of entry and have done so for many years.  I just don't endorse the "standards" in your proposal."

This comment couldn't be more on point! The NAR and the big franchises are built on renting as much desk space as possible.  These are just some of the reasons for our existence as a brokerage…we cannot stand to see quantity triumph over quality.  The consumer deserves so much better!

It is clear that our brokerage would not be a good fit for you.  Again, that is perfectly alright.  What fascinates me, however, is the seeming disregard for brokerages to set & enforce their own guidelines on who can and can not be a part of their brokerage.  I don't think you are advocating the status quo, but the level of vehemence directed at a few, simple standards for our humble brokerage is befuddling.

Now, to your edited comment: with all due respect, there is a wider pool of folks talking about raising the bar that don't frequent ActiveRain. Ever. 

As A|R is showing about 180,000 members currently, that's what, maybe 15 per cent of all REALTORS®?  Via the social networks, namely Facebook and Twitter, not to mention countless other blogs, the raise the bar discussion is being hashed out in front of MILLIONS of people, not just real estate professionals active here on the Rain.  And isn't that the point?  This is a discussion that consumers have implicitly asked for when they consistently rate our profession as one of the LEAST professional professions, year after year.

So, while it's well and good to be "working the system" from the inside and affecting change, isn't it more important to show consumers we recognize there is a problem and that we are openly, actively trying to change it?

To put some perspective on our "cave" dwelling, our founder, Michael McClure, was named one of Inman's 50 Most Influential and one of Proxio's 25 Most Connected in large part because of his outspoken leadership on the issue of raising the bar. Our blog is full of posts that he and I have written on this single topic. It's our passion and it drives everything we do, every single day.

As Stefan Swanepoel, who seems to agree with most of what we're saying,  (archived interview here) said:

"I have publicly supported and encouraged a continual uplifting of the educational process and the professionalism of the real estate brokerage industry in most of my last 16 books and reports.. The time has come for a big change. I think a significant “Game Changer” type shift is now required. Otherwise we may, as an industry, slip further and further downhill until one day “others” outside the industry will find a new solution that may not include real estate agents as we know them today."

Would you not agree that these are not the words of a man who thinks the real estate industry is in a healthy place?

As Swanepoel wrote, a "significant "Game Changer" type shift is now required." More broker training and minor elevation of licensing thresholds (which is most cases are a joke) do not, in my humble opinion, constitute "significant "Game Changer" type" shifts. It's just more of the same old platitudes that have typified real estate forever and which have led to the poor image under which we now suffer as an industry.

Finally, our entire approach is focused on WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS, not WHAT THE TYPICAL REALTOR WANTS. We're not trying to recruit 70,000 ordinary agents. We're trying to recruit 5,000 phenomenal agents who will enjoy an increased income level that will result from the public's reaction to our concept. The public is hungry for professionalism from our industry. If you haven't read the blog at 1000WattConsulting.com/blog, I would highly suggest that you do so. All the things we're doing come straight out of their playbook. And they are the smartest visionaries we've found in real estate.

I can also speak from personal experience: since I joined Professional One back in November of 2009, I've been amazed at how consistently well received our branding concept is. I came from the largest real estate company in Michigan (Real Estate One), and before that I was at RE/MAX. I have encountered zero resistance from people, and in fact I have seen first hand how people react to a branding concept based on professionalism and excellence. They LOVE it.

Oh, and I nearly forgot: the reason I joined Professional One was specifically because the branding image appealed to me and I knew it would appeal to the public. Most of the big brands have blended together in the minds of the consumer (have you seen the video I made?) and that's the main reason agents don't really care where they work. Because the brands have lost their value.

Again, our focus is on attracting buyers and sellers who are fed up with what they get from real estate. The only way we saw to get from here to there was by creating a meaningful barrier to entry into our company. Exactly the kind of barrier that the industry itself refuses to establish.

We'll see what the consumer thinks...

Apr 19, 2010 04:41 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Whew, Todd!  You really struck a nerve with a lot of us.  In so many brokerages, the bar is set at production.  Little thought is given to the quality of the experience the client has.  We have to start somewhere, and I think you've got a great example.

Apr 19, 2010 07:18 AM
Anonymous
Marc Davison

Hats off to you. This is a long time coming. One suggestion - I'd like to see the agent supply more than 3 letters from other agents. After all, who are those other agents anyway? You'll end up needing letters from 3 other agents to support their professional standards. What I'd like to see you get is a letter from the Association President about that agent. 

In any event, it's simply high time that someone make a stand, look the consumer in the eye and say, because real estate is the most important purchase decision you will ever make, we are going to supply you with more than a sales person to navigate it. 

That rocks. 

As a consumer, you have my blessing. 

Apr 20, 2010 05:03 AM
#43
Matt Robinson
Professional Investors Guild - Pensacola, FL
www.professionalinvestorsguild.com

Wow, that's hard core.  I would never say you've gone too far, that's for you to decide only since it's your brokerage.  I think more brokers should place higher standards on who they will hire, rather than the old criteria of a.) can you fog a mirror b.) do you have a family member you might sell a house for in the next 3-5 years?  If yes...WELCOME ABOARD!

Jan 20, 2011 04:23 AM