For anyone who missed it the Chicago Sun-Times real estate section featured an article on balloon frame houses published Friday, July 27.I found this article especially fascinating due to the fact the author Tom Corbett attributes Chicago being the fastest growing city in the world during the 19th century partially due to the innovation of balloon frame housing.

As a Home Inspector I need to be aware of this kind of property as do other Home Inspectors.

Balloon frame housing is not typical anymore and was slowly phased out during the early part of the 20th-century.

however there are still thousands of examples throughout the Chicagoland area despite the fact many of them have been bought up and torn down for new homes.

The big feature with balloon frame housing is that the studs go from sill plate all the way up to the rafters.

The main reason a lot of them had been replaced by platform framing is due to the fact since the choice to go from top to bottom this leaves a big cavity of airspace were fire can travel quickly and may have contributed to the Chicago fire.

Another bad feature considering today's energy concerns is all that airspace produces a chimney like effect drawing hot air up and out

Since the studs run from top to bottom they can often be recognized for their square rectangular box like appearance.

One way to combat the fire hazard and energy inefficiency is to blow insulation in the cavities between studs thus preventing fire from spreading so rapidly and helping solve the energy problem.

A couple of the reasons people would prefer to keep the structures rather than tearing them down are for one thing the wood is higher quality and for another thing you can easily adjust the floor height by moving the joists up and down in between the studs since it is not platform dependent this can give you what a world of possibilities during rehab.in other words many of these are two flats but can be converted to single-family homes with cathedral ceilings. Kinda cool in my opinion.

The article read led me to want to research more about them and one of its things I discovered was this was initially called Chicago construction until the 1870s.Some research by me has suggested balloon framing was first developed by a Chicago carpenter named Augustine Taylor in the 1830s.in other articles I researched suggest it was invented by a Chicago carpenter named George W. Snow in 1832.

Other articles suggest forms of this balloon framing were built previously however anyway you look at Chicago probably gets the credit.

My credit in research goes to Chicago Suntimes,Dept of Agriculture,PBS,and the encyclopedia of Chicago History.org.Illustration below is from uwec/education.

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42 Comments on Balloon Framing (not mortgages)

JUL
30
2007
343,204 Points Outside Blog
Don't think I ever heard of balloon frame houses before. Interesting.
11:47pm • #1

Hi Bob and Carolin..... apparently there are quite a few of these out west also.

According to my research one of the reasons Chicago earned a reputation for the invention was due to factories like Lyman bridges company that produced ready-made houses built with Balloon frames and they were sold to many Western cities in desire to produce homes for the quickly expanding populations.

Any way it is something you could posably run into,and if you do it is a concideration.I will need to do some more research to find out how many may be outside Chicagoland as they are common here.

11:58pm • #2
JUL
31
2007
That's pretty interesting...I've never heard of this...and that is an excellent touch to through the graphic in there. Good info.
12:04am • #3
Hi Bob, Balloon framing has not completely disappeared.  A house I built in 1998 had a couple of balloon framed walls (had to do with vaulted ceilings and stair wells).  The requirement is to put fire blocking in the wall at the floor, so effectively, while the stud goes two stories, the blocking gives it the same fire protection as platform framing.  I think you will still find some homes being built with some balloon frame walls even today.
12:39am • #4
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I was a little girl when we moved out of Roseland and into a balloon framed house with in Grant Park, Illinois (not the park downtown - a small town in Kankakee County).  The home was built in 1886 and is still solid as a rock.  Over the years, our family added the blown-in insulation, updated the electrical, replaced the modified coal burning furnace, fixed the windows, remodeled the bathrooms, and so forth.  But we have maintaned most of the historic look and feel of this great old home.

I can't imagine anyone tearing one of these homes down.  Even if they have not been properly maintained, they are fairly easy to rehab as long as the basic structure is sound.  And if you MUST tear one of these down - for gosh sakes, take it apart stick by stick and sell the lumber, woodwork, and fixtures - its worth a fortune today, especially the studs which can be up to 20 ft long.

Talk about loads of character!  Our house has a living room that is octagon shaped.  The hardwood floor is laid out in a sort of a starburst pattern that is truly amazing, with alternating spokes of Black Walnut and Elm that fan out from a central small octagon.  Black Walnut and Elm woodwork was used throughout the home.  It also has a built in china cabinet with leaded glass doors, a decon's bench, 5 pannel doors, fancy brass door knobs, an inlaid front door with etched leaded glass oval window, a lovely staircase, walk-in closets everywhere, a plate rail, two sets of bay windows, and a beautiful fireplace with ceramic tile.  I could go on and on...  A neighbor of ours rehabed his and turned his upstairs servant's appartment into a beautiful new master suite with a cathedral ceiling.

Some books I've read on barns claim that balloon framing was first used in barns and later in houses.  It allowed the weight of the building to be placed on the outer walls - which in turned left more room in the barn for livestock and more room in the loft for hay, especially when combined with a Gambrel roof structure which did not have any center support structures.  The advent of dimensional lumber spurred on the spread of balloon framing all over the midwest.

I'm a geography nut and I really enjoyed your post. 

12:52am • #5

Wow.. that was a great description Patti.I would love to have something like that with a big wrap around porch.All it takes is a little TLC,and yes there are different versions of how they came to be .

I think I like my version as I'm a little partial to anything Chicago.Even the Cubs. 

Hi Dave ..you are right about that but I did not wish to bore the readers with a 10 page article.I ran across what you said regarding the blocking.

Best way to think about them is you could gut the place and see nothing but air space all around you.Patti may be on to something with the barn comment.

Seems as if every innovation is based on something that came before it.

Pretty cool.

1:04am • #6

Hi, Bob.  We see this a lot in the Detroit area, particularly in some of the more affluent, older neighborhoods such as Grosse Pointe.  In some cases I've seen during remod projects, there was no leger let in to the studs, and the floors sag towards the outside of the structure.

Did you win the door prize yet?

2:19pm • #7

Hi Ken...I assume they all made the corrections in quick workman like manner.

On second thought ,Are we talking during or after remodeling was complete?

No I have not been trying to win the door prize.I had already won a set of computer speakers with a box of R/W CDs last month.

Oh and could you explain the ledger, as to how it effects the studs on the frame structure. Thanks.

10:07pm • #8
AUG
01
2007

Hi, Bob.

I use to see a lot of 2x8 and 2x10 ledgers let into the studs to brace the joists.  I haven't seen any problems develop with the studs from it, but have been told different things by older carpenters regarding it.  I've also seen 2x6 on edge nailed between studs to support the joists.  I have a feeling this was done more as a convienience to set the joists so as not to have to hold them while nailing than anything.

One said that letting in ledgers will weaken the studs to a dangerous level.  The other carpenter said this was a common practice.  According to him, and it makes sense to me, as long as the dados cut in the studs are tight so that the ledger is in complete contact with the wood on top and bottom, and face nailed solidly to the studs, there will be no weakening.  I have never seen any evidence of studs splitting or having problems due to the practice, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything; we may have just been lucky on our projects.

Usually I would find the revearse sag when doing my walkthrough with my subs when putting together bids, but I have also found it when we did the demo.  Hope that helps.

1:05pm • #9

Patti

I wonder how many know of a Gambrel roof?

Did you know that they were installed because every floor that was in a home was taxed? I think France but it may have been England.

So the floor under a Gambrel roof was not considered a floor for tax purposes. 

2:24pm • #10

Hi Ken thanks for the info as it helps those reading follow us.

Hi Mike I have never heard that one so ,went looking for info and found this site on the history of Gambrel roofs.

They tie in with barns as well as do the balloon frames apparently

http://www.vintagedesigns.com/architecture/colgam/sem/index.htm

This is a pretty good site if you go to the home page.I even found a link for my favorite architectural terra cotta.

3:44pm • #11
AUG
02
2007

I had a house with a gambrel roof in Texas.  Any of the floor space (2nd floor) that was under the ceiling area with less than 5 foot something inches was not part of the living (taxable) area. 

 It's in the builiding code somewhere about livable space having a minimum ceiling height.  But, it's too early for me to look it up.

5:51am • #12

Hi Ergy...I am just going out myself but I believe it is primarly aimed at finished basements.

Off hand six foot eight seems to be what I recall.Some one will correct it if I am wrong

2:57pm • #13
AUG
22
2007

Great post.  You would be great on that PBS series about historic Chicago architecture. 

Greg Zaccagni

8:19am • #14
Chicagoland itself is home to many great inovations in architecure..
5:35pm • #15
NOV
29
2007
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Howdy Bob

I had not read this one before. This is another fine blog you have written. For folks to read.

Have a good one

Dale

4:32pm • #16
DEC
02
2007

Thanks Dale ..

I have been busy working and revamping my web site , plus changing over to new software.

5:21pm • #17

Nice post and diagram Bob,

I always look to see that the fire blocking, usually bricks and mortar, is still intact and when I find it removed for say like adding new plumbing/electrical, I call it out and recommend the opening be filled with fire retardant insulation. Most of the time, I see the fire blocking removed in the internal bearing walls over the girder.

5:46pm • #18
DEC
03
2007

Hi Bruce...Yeah the college sites can be good sources of information one might not ever see other wise.

Thanks also for the further information regarding fire stops.,

I need to get back here this week and post some more so Dale doesn't get to lonely  lol.

7:43pm • #19
APR
02
2008

Hi,

I have enjoyed reading the posts on balloon framing.  I was curious if any of you knew when it became common to install fire blocking within a balloon framed house?  Would it be common to find balloon framing in something as recent as a Foursquare or would that have largely been platform construction by that time?  Was balloon framing common with something as large as some of the big Queen Annes or more common in modest homes of the era?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff

Jeff
11:43am • #20

Hi Jeff

I e-mailed you on my way out today, and sorry if it was brief.

Busy time of year for us guys (thank G-d).

As far as the question about when fire blocking came into play , I see no flat out time line on that as many still act as chimney's during a fire from lack of a simple soulution such as a 2x4 from what I have read.

Most local jusisdictions require them , but who knows how compliant the owners have been.

A local AHJ may not have time to even look or verifiy the blocking.

Even as a Inspector myself I am at a loss as to how I can verifiy with out holes being drilled and a Boroscope.

If any fellow Inspectors know a good way to check, I sure would appreciate it.

11:04pm • #21

Jeff , sorry I also noticed a question about how they look.

We are not allowed to copy material here , but they are one long stud ,so if they are box rectangular, with a gable roof, and built before the 1930's ,I would say the odds are good.(two story)

After world war two it is much more rare they are ever built.

Hope that helps.

11:43pm • #22
APR
03
2008
Fascinating, thank you for contributing to the community.
9:39am • #23

Well I just could not let this one go so I decided to ask the Boyz over at NACHI.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27423

9:06pm • #24
NOV
18
2008

The walls have been insulated in the past (of my balloon framed house) but 1 proiblem I have now is the air pockets that have developed inside the walls. The cold just soaks through. Is there an appropriate way to rectify this problem?

don malcolmson(dmalcolmson@hotmail.com)
1:53pm • #25
NOV
19
2008

Hi Don

Where are the air pockets located?

I know that in general they can be easy to insulate, if fire blocks are not in place, as you can just blow cellulose insulation in from the attic and it will drop down to the bottom,, but not knowing what method was used it is hard to say much.

One thing you can do is hire a thermographer to come in and look for where the walls are deficient and go from there.

You can just Google up one of these guys and the fee should not be to bad, as they just come in and scan for temp differences in the walls.

Perhaps installers missed some critical areas and this type of audit would help.

I belong to NACHI and there are many guys doing this type of audit, so if you wish, just e-mail me at bob@homeinspectorpro.com.

I will help anyway I can, if I know which area you are in.

 

7:27pm • #26
NOV
20
2008

Great post Bob, my mom has a balloon framed house. When I take the students over to her house I show them it. They read about in their text books but good to see it in the real world. 

7:25am • #27

What do you physicaly point out as clues that it is a balloon frame Frank?

2:20pm • #28
NOV
21
2008

Great post Bob.  Half of Dayton is balloon frame and many of them built by the same contractor in the 20's.

Jack

11:36pm • #29
NOV
22
2008

Wow

What do you usually do in the way of comments on the structure.

Anything special on advise?

Are you ever able to look all the way up from the basement?

3:35pm • #30

A few where the floor doesn't cover or has been removed.  Redid one when I first moved back to Dayton and learned more than I ever wanted to know.  I've got a couple of pictures that will give an idea what they look like.  Advice is walk the floor and listen carefully.  Usually sounds like the violin section out of tune.  Check for cracks in plaster that don't look like your normal settling crack.

Jack

9:44pm • #31

Hi Bob, at my mom house one of the up stairs rooms is unfinished. So I ask the students to look with their flashlights down between the studs and tell me what they see?  Their response is usually wow a balloon framed house thats cool. On a fully finished house the clues are not so easy to see, that the house is balloon framed. I would start in the attic trying to see down in between the studs or use my infrared camera.

10:14pm • #32

Bob here is a picture of the double we did.  Left before, right after.

Fairview After  Fairview Aft

You can see on the side of the double/duplex where the foundation for the sill is and the studs run contiuous to the roof.

10:23pm • #33
NOV
23
2008

Looking at the pictures,it makes you realise you can be inside or driving by and never know the difference.

I'd bet not a day goes by that one gets inspected, without it being noted as this type of structure.

Unusual roof line on the sides,Jack.

I need to get a good shot of the wall cavities for this blog.

9:53am • #34

The roof on the side os decorative only.  It is attached to the framing.  I might have a pic of one after a fire the clapboard siding is gone, try to find. Fire dept.s hate these things because flames rush from first to second floor in a blink.

 

8:05pm • #35

That would be great if you could post it here.

9:04pm • #36
MAR
23

Bob,

My husband and I bought a balloon construction house for one dollar.  The catch was we had to move it off the property.  Due to the cost of moving the wires, we took off the roof and the second story.  We are moving the house this Sunday, March 29, 2009.  The second story walls were cut off with a sawsall just above the porch roof and are on a trailer waiting to be put back on.  Our plan is to brace the walls with metal bracets and two by fours.  Do you have avy other suggestions? 

Jacqui Rounds
4:26pm • #39

Hi Jacqui

Never been involved in moving a house myself, but are you anywhere near Chicago?

Might make a small trip to see it happen if close by.

 

If I have a chance tonight I will alert some of my Association members from NACHI and see if they have this experiance.

I will have them link here.

What the heck I will do it right now before us old people get sleepy ,as it is dinner time.

5:24pm • #40

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