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"...But The City Approved It!"

Reblogger Patricia Aulson
Real Estate Agent with BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate

Original content by Reuben Saltzman

It happens to me several times each year; I inspect a home for a buyer, I point out a construction defect, then I get a call from an angry seller or seller’s agent, accusing me of being wrong.

If someone challenges my call, I’m always happy to provide an authoritative reference to prove that I’m not just throwing my opinion around.  I can give code references to prove my calls if I’m challenged.  This is why it’s important for home inspectors to know building codes, even though they’re not doing code inspections… but I digress.

The crazy argument that I sometimes get from home sellers and seller’s agents is that a defect that I reported on is not a problem, because the defect wasn’t identified as a part of the permit inspection process.  The argument sounds like this:

Angry Home Seller:  ”That hole in my roof is fine!  You had no right to tell the person buying my house that it’s wrong.”

Me: “That hole is not acceptable.  It will leak water in to the house.”

Indignant Home Seller:  ”That roof was just installed a month ago, and the installation meets the requirements for the Minneapolis Building Code.”

Me:  ”What makes you say that?”

Misinformed Home Seller: “The City of Minneapolis approved the permit.  That means it meets the city’s code.”

While a hole in the roof is an extreme example, the logic applied by this home seller is just as flawed when it comes to other less extreme defects, such as improper nails in joist hangersimproper furnace ventingattic bypasses on new construction… you name it.

Municipal inspectors often have very full schedules and don’t have the luxury of taking their sweet time during inspections like I do.  If a municipal inspector misses a violation of the code, it doesn’t mean that the violation was approved.

To prove my point, I’ll even give you a code reference from the Minnesota State Building Code (insert smiley winky face).

1300.0210 Inspections

Subpart 1. General. Construction or work for which a permit is required is subject to inspection by the building official and the construction or work shall remain accessible and exposed for inspection purposes until approved. Approval as a result of an inspection is not approval of a violation of the code or of other ordinances of the jurisdiction. Inspections presuming to give authority to violate or cancel the provisions of the code or of other ordinances of the jurisdiction are not valid. It shall be the duty of the permit applicant to cause the work to remain accessible and exposed for inspection purposes. Neither the building official nor the jurisdiction is liable for expense entailed in the removal or replacement of any material required to allow inspection.

Good times.

Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections - Email - Minneapolis Home Inspections

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Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

Yikes, I wonder if any homes in Minneapolis ever get finished? It sounds like you have to leave everything inspectable or else be ready to rip it out to show it.

Apr 20, 2010 03:18 PM
Jim Frimmer
HomeSmart Realty West - San Diego, CA
Realtor & CDPE, Mission Valley specialist

I liked Dave's comment. Quite often it's the city inspectors who cause a job to be delayed because there are not enough city inspectors to inspect all the work, yet one runs the risk of wasting a lot of money if the work doesn't get inspected.

Apr 20, 2010 04:16 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

THanks for stopping by today to comment.

Patricia

Apr 21, 2010 01:12 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Yes Jim I think that is many times the case with these city inspectors..... Well you know the old saying " you can't fight city hall....haha!

Apr 21, 2010 01:15 PM
Gabriela Agostinelli
RE/MAX100 - Leonardtown, MD
Gabriela A-Team

My husband is a home inspector. Some agents are worrier to know if the home inspectors will "broke the deal", than with the buyer's right to know what he is buying...

Apr 24, 2010 07:26 AM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Having a hole in your roof is not a very pleasant experience at all:)

Apr 27, 2010 11:49 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Hey Jim, thank you for stopping by to comment.

patricia

Apr 28, 2010 10:36 AM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Yes that's true Gabriela, the buyer has a right to know what they are buying. There are time that it can be incorrect, or inflated though. 

Patricia

Apr 28, 2010 10:38 AM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Bill.....agreed!  A hole in the roof isn't pleasant.  Thanks for commenting.

Patricia/

Apr 28, 2010 10:39 AM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Hi Patricia!  I feel the same way that the inspector does and am, in fact, going through a very similar situation right now with a seller who got a full-price offer and doesn't want to make the repairs because the inspector is an 'idiot!'  SO frustrating--but, I'll betcha when he's buying, he'll believe every word that HIS inspector says and DEMAND that all repairs be made!  A hole is a hole is a hole--no matter from which angle you view it!  LOL

May 04, 2010 03:34 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Hey Debe it's always great hearing from you. THank you for commenting. You are an inspiration to me. I really love your posts. Always great information.

Patricia

May 08, 2010 01:54 AM