Protecting Your Property Rights, Our Day on Capitol HillI just got back from D.C. where we were working to protect your property rights during a day on the hill, meeting with our Congressmen and Senators or their representatives.

Why? The National Real Estate Investors Association (National REIA) informed our local Triad REIA of some upcoming legislation that could be harmful to our business practices as well as to property owners across the country.

What we found out right away that amazed me is how available and open most of our legislators are to hearing from their constituents. Did you know that, with an appointment, you can see almost any of your local House Representatives or Senators? Possibly more difficult in Washington, D.C. than while they are at home in your state but, even then, if they don't have the time to speak with your personally, you can make appointments to meet with their aides.

Did you know that a representative may change their vote after hearing from as few as only two of their constituents? They, for the most part, do represent you and want to hear from you, it's just that so few of us ever express our needs and/or concerns to them directly.

So, we did. First, we met with a number of National REIA members in D.C. Because we had registered ahead of time, National REIA had scheduled appointments for us to meet with the legislators from our home states and, where possible, our own districts. National REIA members from approximately 12 different states attended, 10 members were there from North Carolina alone.

Here's the problem we went to address; HR 4173, the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. Nice name. Consumer protection is certainly popular. But does it really protect the people it intends to?

The Senate companion bill is the Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010. Again, sounds great.

Now, try reading the bills. Thousands of pages, literally.

It appears that the main reason for this legislation is to regulate Wall Street and the mortgage industry from unscrupulous lending practices that have hurt the public. If you don't read the entire bill and don't read deeply, you can, mistakenly, believe that is all that is covered. But, a lot of extras are often added into bills and we all need to pay attention to ensure that our rights are, in fact, being protected.

What concerns us with these bills is that we are all caught in one big net directed at mortgage regulation. You, me, your parents, your grandparents, everyone would, upon passage of this legislation, be required to become licensed mortgage lenders if we decide to sell, through owner financing, any property we own. Suddenly, if your parents own a property free and clear and decide to let you buy it from them with monthly payments, they would need licensing as mortgage lenders and you would have to qualify for the loan just like through any other lender.

Many properties, such as mobile homes or land, don't qualify for bank financing but would now have to. Why? Because purchasing from individuals by using a note would no longer be legal. Many of today's buyers can't qualify for a traditional mortgage and count on seller's financing. This would no longer be an option.

Congressman Howard Coble immediately termed this "over-regulation" and we agree. What we need is a Senator (or multiple Senators) to stand up and confront this problem in the bill. What we discovered is that most legislators don't know everything in a bill if they weren't the ones who wrote it. Apparently, even the ones who sign off on the bills don't know everything in them because much can be added to a bill once it goes to committee.

Hence, our need to read and "inform" our representatives. Everyone we talked with about this bill seemed genuinely concerned and a bit alarmed at the harm this one section could do to the general population, the "mom's and pop's" out there who may have paid off some rental properties for their retirement and now, with the new laws, would no longer be able to sell with owner finance securing themselves income during retirement. Consensus was that this could not have been the original intention of this bill. Most termed the situation an "unintended consequence".

So now we follow-up with our legislators through emails, letters and personal appointments when they're back in our home states. The bill, as written, has already passed the House and will soon be voted on by the Senate.

It was very empowering to take a part in the system and learn that we actually do have a say and we can be heard. How this bill turns out will be worth paying attention to by all of us.

Keep up with what we learn about this legislation going forward at Karen's Perspective.

 

Sequel Alert:  Thank you to everyone for the fabulous comments.  They are so well said and so varied that I wish you would repost them on my blog Karen's Perspective.   Out of fear and, no doubt, reality that few of you will.. I'm going to do another blog post that is just comments to the post.  This legislation is huge and I want my blog readers to know that many of us are concerned for and passionate about what's happening in/with/to our government.

Thank you all.

Karen Rittenhouse | www.karensperspective.com | 336-834-0614 | karen@karensperspective.com
 
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APR
25
2010
918,279 Points 80 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

Karen, Thank you for what you're doing! I saw your post re-blogged on Candice Dinifrio's blog and I'm glad I saw this. A person who owns private property and wants to sell it, the type of financing they agree to is their business. And for the government to require licensing to do so...not neccessary.

2:41pm • #74
576,212 Points 7 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Wow - not one person defending the government here.  Where are all those who keep saying, "The Government needs to .... "  Because they are getting what they wished for.

4:24pm • #75

Karen

 

This was my third Day on the Hill and I thought that this year was really no different than the previous two.  Politicians are so blinded by party loyalty that if you aren't talking about something that they are supporting then they really don't want to listen.  On the other hand, we actually dropped in on Bob Latta from Ohio (Republican) without an appointment and was pleasantly surprised that he visited with us for over 25 minutes.  He actually listened to us and took immediate action ( or appeared to take action) by telling his Legislative Director who was also sitting in on the meeting to contact HUD and get them in his office.  He actually looked directly at us when we talked and listened.  I was very much impressed.  I mentioned from the start that he was not in my district but he was close enough that what I had to say would affect his area as well.  Of the four contacts we made, I walked out feeling good about politicians.  The balance were all brush offs.

 

You know what?  We still have to do what we have to do.  I cannot make much of an impact as one citizen.  It is what I do with it that will make the difference.  I am now on the line to tell everyone I know who will listen and who won't.  But if I keep quite, the visit to Washington would have been in vain.

 

Thanks for the blog!

 

Don Newman - Toledo, Ohio

Don Newman - Ohio
4:34pm • #76
123,614 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Joetta: 

New mantra.. "This is NOT the change we voted for."

4:41pm • #77
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Don:

All the responses we received were so positive.  Most of the people we met with were aides, but they are the ones who so often determine where the focus lies.

Richard Burr met us in the hall on his way to a vote.  We talked at lenght with his aide and she took a lot of notes.  Very impressive. 

Howard Coble never acted rushed or in a hurry.  He listened intently and gave us some guidance.  He told his aide two people to get immediately ahold of to discuss this and said he had 4 Senators he intended to contact.

Will it happen?  Is the glass half full?  But, like you said, if we remain silent, we cannot comment on the situations that occur. 

I left our Day on the Hill feeling impowered and that I make more of a difference than I'd realized.

4:53pm • #78

I joined Karen as one of the six other teams on The Hill for this lobbying effort. Confirming the senators and congressmen/women were accessibe. the Republicans universally agreed limiting property rights for individuals was a negative and unitended consequence. the democrats almost to a individual wanted to portray investors as predatory and asking loan shark interest rates (on an installment sale where no money is lent?)

Watch Personal Real Estate Investor Magazine (at your local B&N or Borders in the business and finance section) for an article and lobbying tools to use in your market. These describe the value of real estate investors as one third of the market. www.PersonalRealEstateInvestorMag.com

Best Andrew Waite

 

 

Andrew Waite
5:50pm • #80
882,832 Points 50 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

I will admit that I am not a mortgage broker and don't keep up with the legislation as much as I should...  But if I recall, these rules only apply to mortgage brokers, but not bankers.  Shouldn't the rules also apply to banks that do mortgages?

10:33pm • #81
APR
26
2010

Good morning Karen,

Thanks for making the effort so you can educate the rest of us.

Vicki Rucker

 

Vici Rucker
4:26am • #82

Thanks for having both the patience and depth to deal with our government. I wouldn't have it in me.

11:32am • #83
306,520 Points 9 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

If Congress would worry about what Americans want instead of what lobbyists and special interests want, we would be in a better place.

1:14pm • #84
563,876 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Karen - I had not heard this. Thanks for posting. ANd thank you for your investing your time into civil action.  Do you have a reference as to which sections of the bills will require this?

2:26pm • #85
123,614 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I've been reading updates today. Fortunately, the Republicans want discussion on the bill.  Not, necessarily for our cause, but for other things including the fact that Obama wanted it passed today..  They have said that, if the bill passes today, it won't all pass..?  Not sure what that means or how that happens.  We continue to learn!

2:26pm • #86
123,614 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Sequel Alert:

Thank you to everyone for the fabulous comments. They are so well said and so varied that I wish you would repost them on my blog Karen's Perspective.

Out of fear and, no doubt, reality that few of you will.. I'm going to do another blog post that is just comments to the post. This legislation is huge and I want my blog readers to know that many of us are concerned for and passionate about what's happening in/with/to our government.

Thank you all.

2:36pm • #88
Outside Blog

Couple things to mention, HR 1728, is what I think you are talking about although I wasnt 100% sure. . .

 

However, it would allow for a seller to seller finance 1 property every 3 years.  So they are realy going after the investor more than grandma and grandpa. . . .

3:16pm • #89

Hey Karen,

Nice to see more people becoming aware, thank you so much for writing (and I'm glad AR gave you some featured traffic! - Thanks AR!)

Because I'm a RE broker who is also in the 'note business' (the buying and selling of privately held mortgages) I naturally function as an Owner Financing Coach and Consultant (so people know how to carry paper that can be sold for the smallest possible discount), so I've been following this conversation for a while now, commenting on the bill during the 'comment' period, writing my senators, etc.  I'm hoping that it will make a difference because, as many have mentioned, it's an unthinkable attack on private property rights.

I know several 'mom n pops' who have a small portfolio of properties, and they have planned all along to carry paper on them as part of their retirement strategy.  If they've got 10 SFR rentals, and they want to sell them with seller financing so they can quit the property management business and relax or travel or nurse their arthritis, the 1 every 3 years things really puts a crimp in their financial plan.

And investors are filling a very needed gap in the economy.  Sure, they're making money buying REOs for cash and selling using owner financing, but SO MANY FAMILIES would just not have a chance at home ownership if it weren't for these investors filling the gap.

In my opinion, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street and monetary policy at the top created the problem, and now they're 'fixing' it by regulating the hell out of everyone else, including Grandma and the local investor putting families with poor credit in homes.

One of the most disturbing things for me is how NAR really doesn't seem to care about the owner financing conversation, even though several of their members make significant commissions off of seller financed transactions.  I think there are substantial mortgage industry interests connected with NAR . . . RE brokerages who make more money selling loans than properties, etc . . . I've found their responses quite unsatisfactory.  They seem aligned with the big interests that are basically grabbing for everything in sight at this point.

Even though I don't 'originate loans,' but merely advise people on how to negotiate and structure seller financing transacitons to meet short and long term objectives, I'll be getting the extra Mortgage Originators license here in CA added to my broker's license.  Just gotta bite the bullet on that, even though my ability to put strong and ethical paper together is primarily derived from understanding the market in which notes are bought and sold.

I know it's a big quandry for others in the note business (most of whom are not RE brokers) . . . everyone's wondering how all these regulations and licensing requirements are going to play out. 

Anyhow, too long-winded, sorry.  Thanks for the post, Karen

Dawn

 

Dawn Rickabaugh
6:56pm • #90
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Also, David Butler over at Creative Real Estate Online usually has some poignant thoughts, and is a good person to follow on these matters.

Dawn

7:02pm • #91
APR
27
2010
993,969 Points 4 Featured Posts

"Did you know that a representative may change their vote after hearing from as few as only two of their constituents.

and there in lies the problem, they will change their mind as quick as that. I want a representative that has a pulse on what the people want and will vote his belief and if it is different we can vote him out. I am sick of him going with the status quo.

10:33pm • #92
MAY
11
2010
993,969 Points 4 Featured Posts

Everyone needs to get more involved in politics and the first thing to do would be to vote all incumbents out and vote for ones that will put into place term limits.

10:10pm • #93
MAY
24
2010

Karen - Thanks for the great information. Thank you for fighting the good fight. This legislation could be quite damaging to all property owners and most don't understand it. The public does rely on REALTORs to look out for their proprety rights and without people like you our voice doesn't get heard. Keep up the fight.

12:29pm • #94
123,614 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Thanks, Kathie. I appreciate your words.

12:53pm • #95

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