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106 Comments on Sellers at the Buyer's Inspection?
To me it does not matter, I'm familiar with current buiding codes for most areas. If sellers are there, so be it...
Hey Lane, congrats on the featured post! I discourage my sellers from being at a home inspection because in the past I have had problems with it. It can lead to arguments and wreck deals. No Thanks!!
I typically only attend the inspection if I'm the buyer's agent though I can see some of your points.
I to have been to many home inspections. I would say to let the sellers leave the home at the time of the inspection. Like you said, if they wnat a copy, they can buy it. Also, if they do not know about a problem they would not have to disclose it but once they do know thye have to.
I can see both sides to this. I don't think the seller should be there but their agent should be. When we bought our house a few years back, the seller was there but she stayed out of the way. Her agent was not there but ours was.
Lane - Interesting points. The topic of seller attended inspections has not really been an issue in our area. I can see the validity of your points, but I believe it would be emotionally difficult and perhaps detrimental to the transaction for sellers to attend the inspection. I advise my sellers to be away from the home during the inspection.
Lane, I attend inspections when representing the Buyer and come near the end if it's our listing. I do like to hear first hand what the inspector has to say. The seller there? That's a risk I prefer not to take. I don't know the Seller if I'm representing the Buyer, or the Buyer if representing the Seller. If there's a personality clash or if the Seller is sensitive about their home flaws, then it can go downhill. Also, for the reason in the story in Kevin's post at #61, it's better to avoid contact between Sellers and Buyers during the contract time.
Lane you wrote, "I have had buyers sell the inspection, or even give the inspection, to the seller if they chose not to pursue the property."
Are you saying sell, or give, the inspection report? I hope not.
Hi Lane! Well, I had an experience this week that my seller didn't wish to leave. I encouraged her to do so but, she insisted upon remaining. As it turned out, the buyers were uncomfortable as they wanted to do their measuring and have their inspector to themselves. Luckily their agent told them that I had encouraged her to leave but, had insisted on staying and 'working' while the inspection took place. They wound up being okay with it in the end but, it was not what I would advise. I agree that the inspection belongs to the buyer, whether or not the seller still owns the home. They don't want outside influence--especially if the seller is in 'love' with their home and when the inspector mentions ANYthing that may be wrong, those in love tend to get bent out of shape, making it uncomfortable for all that are present.
I've also been with buyers on an inspection when the sellers were present--they said to me following the inspection that they didn't feel comfortable asking more probing questions to the inspector for fear that they would offend the seller.
So, I am not fond of sellers being present but, then again, there is never a transaction in this business that is just like another one and we always roll with the punches, dealing with situations that don't seem 'routine' and move on, right?!
I'm 50/50 on this but typically in my area the Seller dont attend the buyer inspections. What's even worse though is when the Seller is there during an open house!
Personally, I feel the seller should NOT be present at the BUYERs' home inspection. Homes in Texas are sold "as is" and inspections are for the knowledge of the buyer. If the buyer wants to ask for a repair, the seller can call the inspector for clarification purposes if need-be.
But also, I don't like buyers and sellers being in the same room together. Too much emotion gets involved and it can turn ugly. This is why they have two separate closing times scheduled and keys are not directly exchanged. 99% of my transactions have the buyer and seller NEVER talking or meeting.
Lane,
This is such a negotiable topic, there is no right or wrong answer. I think the amount of stress the inspection can be for a seller is huge. So, it is best if they are not present. This way the buyer, agents & inspector can feel comfortable during the inspection. However, I have had times where the seller is present and I've found it to be helpful. Sometimes the inspector has questions or can show the seller something negative that might not be so easy to understand in a typed report that does not include photos.
As a listing agent or a buyer's agent, I am always present. I want to know any deficiencies of the home immediately. I have noticed many listing agents do not attend.
I've been to many as the listing agent, all mine when I'm the buyers agent. Only have had sellers their once and it was due to health reasons and she was not able to leave her home without assistance, and she didn't say one word to the inspector after, hello and just help yourself.
As the listing agent, I am almost always at the inspection. I've found the written reports can make things sound worse that they usually are -- and I like to hear exactly how the inspector presented his/her findings -- not to mention the potential buyers reaction to those findings. This give me valuable insight to share with the sellers when and if a request is made of them based on the inspection. That said, I advise my sellers to NOT be there -- very few good things can come from their presence and so many negatives can and have. If we need them, I know how to reach them.
Thank you for all of the comments.
One thing I am curious about. Several commentors have stated that they don't attend (or allow sellers to attend) for liability reasons. What do you feel is the liability?
Just wondering...
Lane: I have heard of cases where the seller or their Realtor was at the inspection, and... when the buyer closed on the home, and then found that the inspector had missed something... they accused the seller or the Realtor of distracting the inspector during the inspection... resulting in the inspector missing one or more items that he/she might otherwise have noticed.
I have never had a seller attend a home inspection and I would not like it if they did. I want the buyer to be able to have an open discussion with the home inspector.
Lane, Great post. I always attend my buyers home inspections even if they are unable to be there I still go. My thoughts regarding sellers being there are simple...I dont think that they should be there because if the home inspection is paid for by the buyers then it's there information to do with as they please. I think that if the seller is there then the buyers may not ask the really important questions regarding the home for fear of offending the seller's. Just my thoughts! Have a GREAT week!
Karen - Generally, I sit in the kitchen or living room (whether it is a buyer or seller I am representing) during the inspection. I don't want to distract or delay them. I will follow around during the explanation of findings, or respond if asked a question. But, I did challenge one inspector on a "code violation" he found... I was right, he was wrong. He was also an alarmist that made a dirty filter seem like the end of the world...
I also had a seller at an inspection when I was representing the buyer (seller unrepresented). He was great to have around, and the one defect (yes, there was only one defect) was repaired before the inspector could clear the room...
Sellers are much easier to deal with than are sellers agents. My favorite (not) question comes from the sellers agent who at every turn ask "How is it going". That question does not help the transaction along, sometimes when forced to answer that question an inspector will answer without having fully thought out their response. Give the inspector the time and freedom to perform the home inspection. Let the inspection report speak for the home.