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Illegals in Arizona -- If you Don't Live Here, You Don't Understand the Problem

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Real Estate Agent with Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert DRE #SA554748000

It has been a while since I posted anything political into Active Rain, but today I must do what I can to speak up for what is right.

Read the sign in this photo taken at the May Day protest in Phoenix.  The sign depicts an attitude that must be opposed with everything we have.

Demanding Immigrant in Phoenix

Is this not a SCARY THING? The mainstream media did not pick up the story, but a policeman was shot with an AK-47 while making a stop of a vehicle suspected of smuggling of illegals just a couple of days after our new law was signed. I believe this is behind the comment (threat) in red at the bottom of the sign.

My neighbor, who is a highly-skilled carpenter is about to lose his house to foreclosure. He has not had a job for around a year and one-half.  However, there are carpenters who are illegal who have jobs here. The way I see it, an illegal has his job. My neighbor would really appreciate having a job so he would not lose his home.

My neighbor is paying a high price because the federal government is more focused on their agenda than in doing what is right. Of course they are supported by those in business who profit from the cheap labor and the fact that the illegals are also consumers.

The boycott of Arizona for taking a stand against illegal immigration is really WRONG and misguided.

Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

 

You BETTER CHECK YOUR SOURCES. . .THAT PICTURE IS A PRODUCT OF  PHOTOSHOP!!!!

CLOSE-UP DETAIL ON THE SIGN. .  un-retouched . . YOU GOTTA TO BE KIDDING ME!

MY VERSION!

You can see it so clear that those signs were altered with photoshop. . .

On the lack of substantial argument for a clear human rights violation. . . anything goes to make your point?

 

May 05, 2010 09:34 PM
Randy Ostrander
Lake and Lodge Realty LLC - Big Rapids, MI
Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI

Sign may be photo shopped but the man who has lost his job to someone here illegally isn't. This is a real problem affecting real tax paying citizens of our Country. Sounds like trouble on the horizon. Thanks John.

May 05, 2010 10:23 PM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

Sorry Fernando * America OWES ILLEGALS NADA * ZIP * ZERO  They need to return to their home country and enter legally!

May 05, 2010 10:58 PM
Hugh Krone
Weichert Referral Associates - Hamburg, NJ
Realtor, Sussex County NJ

Having spent most of my life in food service(an industry now almost exclusively filled with illegals) I now find it hard to find a position making even close to what I made 25 years ago. Something has to be done.

May 06, 2010 01:58 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

I find it funny that people say these guys are taking the jobs that Americans don't want.  That's because Americans must get FICA and Withholding taken from their paychecks.  Not to mention workermens comp, unemployemnt insurance, OSHA laws, minimum wage laws, etc.  Of course an American doesn't want that - it is all illegal.  What a joke. 

It does look like that sign is doctored.  I couldn't believe someone would threaten to kill police and not get hauled in for questioning.

May 06, 2010 02:07 AM
Mike Carlier
Lakeville, MN
More opinions than you want to hear about.

At least all the illegals want to do is live here.  Be thankful that Mexico doesn't want its territory back.  Of course, if that happened, who would be the illegals?

May 06, 2010 04:34 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

I just love those who defend the one's who are "illegal" and not those of us who actually pay taxes and deserve to be protected by the government who takes those taxes from us - and who is wrong here?

May 06, 2010 06:24 AM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

Thanks, Fernando, for your detective work. I did not doctor the photo and did not look at it in the detail as you did. In fact, I want to apologize for the editorial work that was done to the sign with photoshop. I also want to make sure that everyone knows that I appreciate the good citizens of ethnic backgrounds other than my own.

The focus of my concern is with illegals who come here and absorb our resources and compete with us for our jobs. As I mentioned in my main article, the illegals ARE taking jobs that our good citizens would love to have.

May 06, 2010 10:57 AM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

On the lack of substantial argument for a clear human rights violation. . . anything goes to make your point?

Fernando, what "human rights violation" are you talking about?  Is there a "human right" to violate the soveriegnty of another country and break its laws?  If so, you need to let Mexico know, because they have VERY stiff penalties for people in THEIR country illegally. 

BTW, federal law requires legal resident aliens to carry proof of their legal status.  The AZ law just allows state courts to try the violations under state law since the federal government is pretty weak on actually enforcing immigration laws.

Personally, I think that ICE should attend the illegal alien rallies and do some sweeps.

May 06, 2010 03:52 PM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Congratulations this post is now featured in the Silent Majority Group of Active Rain.

May 07, 2010 03:08 AM
Michael Delaware
North Sky Realty LLC - Battle Creek, MI
REALTOR®, CRS, GRI

I cannot think with the logic that people who commit a crime, and illegally live here, and do not pay taxes should have the rights accorded citizens who do pay taxes.  It is such an inverted, backwards and upside down illogical thinking process it cannot grasp it. 

So in the mind of the supporters of illegal immigration, legal citizens should pay taxes, pay for health care and give jobs to those that do not.  We should allow our police officers to be powerless to arrest them, and federal laws should not be enforced. 

Why don't they go to the country they came from and hold that same protest, and get their homeland straightened out and in order they way they want?  Why do I have to pay for it?

May 07, 2010 07:20 AM
Dominick Dina, MA, REALTOR®
Christian Realty San Antonio - San Antonio, TX
GRI, e-PRO, TAHS, SFR, Notary Public

Not convinced this was spoofed.  However, do agree anyone here without the legal status of my grandparents are illegal.  Try it in some other country and see what happens.

While I have emphathy in my heart for those less fortunate and wanting a better life for their family, they must follow OUR rules to enter OUR country.  All are welcome.  Please us the front door.

Either we enforce our laws or face a silent invasion and takeover of our Nation.

May 08, 2010 02:16 PM
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Several points:

1.  The sign is photoshopped.  If not, I would consider it despicable.

2.  Assumptions are being made that the sign carrier is here illegally.  Tsk, tsk.

3.  If you want to talk about preferential treatment, please start in Florida.  That's where it is LEGALLY being allowed to happen.

4.  Many of us do understand the problem and want to see something done.  We also see what AZ is doing as improper.

5.  I'm in no way condoning illegal immigration and am against it, but I will point out that a number of those people ARE paying taxes.

May 09, 2010 06:40 AM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

Tchaka, Thanks for your comments.  You did not address the point that illegals are taking jobs of tax-paying, law abiding citizens.

I disagree with you vehemently about your point 4. What is being done in Arizona is to duplicate much of the federal legislation that is on the books but not being enforced. That being done, we can work on fixing the problem, at least in our state. In so doing, we will make Arizona a little more focused on doing the right thing and will attract newcomers to our state who like what we are doing.

Enforcement will also make Arizona a less likely home for those who come here illegally.

May 09, 2010 07:01 PM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

I want to add a comment about the potential spoofing.  If the sign was "Photoshopped'" it still conveys an attitude that is held but not always expressed. If I had thought it was spoofed, I would not have posted it in the first place.

Like Randy said, Legal citizens are losing jobs to illegals everyday. This is a fact that cannot be disputed. My son has been looking for work. He just found a job, but he was considering standing with the (mostly illegal) day workers to take a job at the going rate of $10 per hour. If he had done so, he would have been hired first because he does speak English.

May 09, 2010 07:09 PM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142


We will be participating in the events to increase awareness of our issue here in Arizona June 5th-12th We will release more details this weekend. Make your travel plans now! Encouraged by the news that at least twelve states plan to follow Arizona's lead by cracking down on illegal immigration with versions of SB 1070, organizers with Voice of the People USA and Tea Party Patriots Live are announcing historic mega rallies in Phoenix Arizona and around the nation this June 5 through June 12 accompanied by Americans shopping in Arizona to counter any boycotts.

Two large rallies will be held, one on June 5 and one on June 12 at the Arizona state legislature in Phoenix. Each rally will be supported by and have guest speakers who include heads of national organizations, local organizations, federal and state lawmakers, candidates for public office, media personalities and talk radio show hosts, entertainers, and much more.

The events will be broadcast live to the nation by streaming video and audio going out on the Internet and talk radio stations nationally. The clear message of these events will be "We support Arizona! We support SB 1070! No Amnesty for illegal immigrants! Secure our borders! Enforce our existing immigration laws!"

Tens of thousands of American are expected to converge on Phoenix, Arizona from all across America and there will be buses and vehicle caravans coming in from other states. Rallies and lobbying efforts will also be held in all American states between June 5 and June 12, asking other states to file and pass versions of SB 1070.

The events in each state will be listed at www.AgainstAmnesty.com June 5 through 12 will also be declared "Shop In Arizona Week!", where Americans are encouraged to come to Arizona to shop and spend money to help offset the attempted boycott imposed by the nation of Mexico and illegal immigrant supporting groups.

See also:  http://standwitharizona.org   Pam Stevenson, Tea Party Patriots

- Arizona See more details and  RSVP on Arizona Tea Party Network

My organization We the IINFORMED People, hopes to take a bus load of Prescott Area Patriots to the event on June 5.

May 09, 2010 07:33 PM
Tchaka Owen
Galleria International Realty - Hollywood, FL

Hi John - I didn't address illegals taking away jobs from citizens because I didn't feel the need to.  Ie, that's a given.  No matter where you stand on this issue, that remains a fact.  I'm sure you've heard the argument that illegals do some jobs that citizens wouldn't want to do.  While that is often true, it's nevertheless accurate that jobs are being taken away. 

May 11, 2010 05:34 AM
Steve Hoffacker
Steve Hoffacker LLC - West Palm Beach, FL
Certified Aging In Place Specialist-Instructor

John,

Thank you for sharing this side of the story. I am so tired of hearing how the illegals are only doing jobs Americans won't. Phooey! :)

Steve

May 11, 2010 04:43 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

John, I came from the reblog by Steve. If this is a true sign, this is way beyond awful, stupid.. It is plain dangerous

May 11, 2010 04:58 PM
John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

Jon, as brought out by Fernando, it appears to me that the sign was "photoshopped." I did not take down the post because the sign itself is not the issue. As I mentioned in my first reply to Fernando, the doctoring of the sign is despicable.

I believe the message that is shown expresses the underlying belief that many Arizonians have of the motives of the illegals.

May 14, 2010 05:28 PM