email1You better start paying attention.  This is not a post about Sub Prime.  Sub Prime has it's woes, and it doesn't matter if it's rightfully deserved or not, Sub Prime is in a world all it's own. 

Or so we thought.

On Monday, trading for a American Home Mortgage, a large ALT-A Lender was halted on the floor of the NYSE.  The stock was tanking after it's financial backers said they would not continue with their backing.  Remember, AHM was not a Sub Prime Lender, they were primarily ALT-A.

I have personally never done a loan through AHM.  It looks like I never will.  But here's the really scary part.email2

Every Lender is scrambling.  No matter if it's the biggest (Countrywide) or the smallest, no matter if they do only the highest quality A Paper loans. They are all scrambling right now.  They are tightening guidelines, deleting programs and making WILD adjustments all in an effort to make sure they are the "prettiest one at the dance".

We're talking all the big girls.  And who are they?  According to Inside Mortgage Finance, the top 10 list for originators for the first half of 2007 are

  1. Countrywide ($245 billion),
  2. Wells Fargo ($148 billion),
  3. CitiMortgage,
  4. Chase,
  5. Bank of America,
  6. WAMU,
  7. Wachovia,
  8. IndyMac,
  9. GMAC,
  10. and American Home Mortgage ($34 billion, now pretty much toast)

It reminds me of a Backpacking quote I always liked, "When you suddenly come face to face with an angry Grizzly, remember you don't have to run faster than the bear, just faster than your buddy!"

Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday this week, every lender sent flurries of emails and faxes out to their brokers and loan originators.  Every Lender.

email3They deleted this, they modified that.  What was ok yesterday is no longer ok today.  Even from this morning to this afternoon. 

Now Pay Attention...

  • Already approved for a loan?  Just about any loan, chances are pretty good the guidelines for that loan changed this week.  Your Approval may no longer be valid.
  • Did you lock your rate?  That lock was for those particular guidelines, your loan may now have an additional "hit" that it didn't have before you locked.
  • Did you already sign the loan papers?  - When the backers of AHM pulled the plug AHM had $300 Million ready to fund.  All of those deals went straight into the trash.  "Sorry for any inconvenience - we don't have any money to lend you.  Have a nice day!"
  • Pre-Qualified?  Guess again.  Go back to your Mortgage Professional and start again.
  • 'We're just thinking..."   Thinking about buying or refinancing?  If I may make one suggestion.  DO NOT Hesitate!  Get off the couch and do it right now.   This has been the craziest week I have ever seen in 14 years.  If you are sitting on the fence for whatever reason right now let me ask you this, "Do you really think it's going to get better in the coming days, weeks or months?"  Not a chance!email5

A self serving note: 

I am a Mortgage Broker, (I was a Mortgage Banker years ago).

I can fund loans through all the big lenders and so many more little lenders.  At one point I had over 7,000 loan programs at my disposal.  While a Mortgage Banker has certain advantages at times, right now, at this point in time, with the volatility in the marketplace as it is, I thank my lucky stars I have the flexibility when a door slams shut (as so many have closed this week), to switch lenders and find a still open door.  

email4It may be just my personal opinion, but if you are not working with a Professional Mortgage Broker today, you may be in for a big disappointment tomorrow.  The sad part is that I know so many wonderful, ethical, professional Mortgage Bankers who may get caught up in all this, and it has nothing to do with them or their company.  It's the financial backers of that company that they are all scrambling for.  The losers will be the borrowers as well as the professional mortgage originators working for that company.

 

 

 This bears repeating (sorry about the pun) ahmnolonger

Here's Gretchen Morgenson (a Pulitzer Prize NY Times Author) explaining the relationships between Lenders and the "backers".  While they are talking about Sub Prime, the same relationships apply. You can read more about it here: Asking the Question

 Part One:

 

 Part Two:

 

 

 Friday Update: One of my favorite Account Executives just sent me this:

"Let me start this e-mail by saying that I realize that many of you are getting an overload of information from your lenders right now as the landscape seems to be changing faster than we can all keep up with, but I do want to make sure that you are very well informed on changes here at xxxx.  That said, please review the following information and attachments as we have made more than a few guideline changes.  Most of the changes seem to be tightening up on lower credit scores at higher LTV's and stated income programs..... based on recent changes in the industry, not a huge surprise.  What seems to be good news to me thus far is that we are actually keeping a majority of the programs that we offer.

What's also good news is that we are an integral part of xxxc, so we are not going anywhere.  That said, going forward, it will be business as usual for us, as long as what is being submitted is meeting the guidelines.  If there is anything that you may have a question about, I will do my best to properly address it.

Thank you all for your time in reviewing this information and I will continue to communicate what I get from my corporate office as soon as I get it."

That's a good salesman putting a positive spin on a very scary situation.  And yes, he's from one of the top 10.  

Here's a different spin coming from a Lender directly


 


 


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13 Comments on You Only THINK You Were Approved

AUG
02
2007
595,285 Points 111 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Thanks for the straight scoop mike.  It's pretty spooky right now and I know a LO who was working for AHM and recently went to work for another co. That was some good info there....
10:15pm • #1
213,405 Points 51 Featured Posts Outside Blog

It's very Spooky Sally.

I know who your talking about - I saw his post this morning!


10:25pm • #2
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Mike,  great content and well laid thought. those are some deeps thoughts and sage advice. thanks. :)
10:35pm • #3
263,267 Points 59 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Mike - You are fantastic more times than not....this was one of them.  This should be featured, or at least have as much exposure as feasible.  These are interesting times....great job putting them in a post!

10:56pm • #4
AUG
03
2007
213,405 Points 51 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Nick - Thanks.  Deep thought reminds me of Jack Handy.  I'm not going there, ...yet.

Jason - I'm sure you got these emails and faxes as well.  We're not done yet.  We're in for a wild ride.  The 10 yr opened up today and shot downward.  Unemployment figures came out.  As one person has put it, there's a "disconnect" going on right now.  (That might be a great post topic) We're seeing an extraordinary amount of volatility in our market.  As a former Stock Options trader I loved the big V.  But it's not the friend of a big Lender.

I just can't imagine being a buyer, having signed the loan docs, and just waiting to close, and getting the dreaded phone call.  It's also important to point out that this isn't effecting ALL programs and ALL Lenders.  FHA and VA should be somewhat insulated.  But what started in Sub Prime, has bled over into Alt -A, which can and probably will bleed into A Paper soon.  It's liquidity and lenders need it to operate.  All Lenders.

 


 

9:51am • #5
415,897 Points 17 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Holy crap! That's a lot of unbelievable information. I'll have to pass this along to the buyer I've been working with. He's been asking all kinds of questions, which you just answered!

Lisa Hill

8:18pm • #6
AUG
06
2007
108,954 Points 8 Featured Posts
It has been a crazy week! i can barely keep up and no longer feel that I can impart any useful info to my clients n this topic. When I could once offer optimism, I'm now just sending them straight to their mortgage broker for answers.
10:28am • #7
213,405 Points 51 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lisa - Thanks! But be careful it's changing minute by minute.  What I wrote yesterday may not be true today.

Jennifer - You are not alone, Mortgage Pro's cannot keep up.  I spoke to room full of Brokers, and Agents Friday. Unfortunately most mortgage people out here don't understand much of any of this.  Sending them to their Mortgage Broker is great, IF their Broker understands and knows this stuff.

I was talking to a MB Friday who had absolutely NO IDEA what happened last week - NONE!   Very sad.

 


10:36am • #8
AUG
09
2007
479,909 Points 151 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Mike.... thanks for the laugh in regards to your backpacking quote....how funny. Thanks for the laugh again.  In everything else that you said, it's pretty much right on.

What I love about myself and my company is that I am a Banker, but that we can broker deals out. And that I underwrite FHA loans.... which will be my saving grace more than anything. I just got 2 FHA loans today, one because a lender couldn't take them conventional.

In any case.... great post.

jeff belonger

12:50am • #9
479,909 Points 151 Featured Posts Outside Blog
And I agree with Jason... I gave this a 5...  you just wonder sometimes.... 
12:52am • #10
AUG
10
2007
135,515 Points 15 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Mike - All this just makes me glad I'm not looking for a home loan right not.  There is so much going on.  Thanks for the informative post. 
10:01am • #11
7 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hi Mike - I'm glad you pointed this post out. I didn't realize all that was going on. I had also never heard the quote about the grizzly bear and I like that.

Question for you though.... (I need mortgage speak for dummies)... what's the difference between a mortgage broker and a mortgage banker? (does this inspire another post? :)

4:55pm • #12
AUG
16
2007
Great post, Mike: I know what you are saying, as a Loan Agent I am receiving changes daily in e-mails and conference calls about the Lenders and their programs...someone told me this is an "Interesting and exciting time": that's one way to put it.
5:34pm • #13

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