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A LITTLE ARM HISTORY

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Mortgage and Lending with Christensen Financial Mortgage 385907

I was working for a Boston based mortgage company somewhere around the early 80's, I believe, when we came out with one of the first, if not the first, discounted ARM's.  It was a 1 year ARM at 10.125%  with a 2% annual cap, but no lifetime cap. What do you think about that, there was no limit to where this rate could go. The average  fixed rate at that time was 14%. Yes, we had sales at those rates, and this program was very popular.

The next big change to this program, as you might have guessed, was the addition of lifetime caps. These caps were usually 5% or 6%. Another change was that we did not qualify the buyer at the starting rate. The buyer was initially qualified at either the fully indexed rate (index plus margin at that time)or the rate at the first change date. Aside from the fact that the buyer was a better qualified buyer they were made aware of where the rate might go by this exercise. Most of these ARM's at that time were tied to the T-Bills, a fairly volatile index.

After that we started getting a little creative by adding a conversion option. This option would allow you to pay a fee, usually $250, and convert to the market fixed rate, or the market rate with a quarter to half of a percent premium. In most cases the conversion option had to be exercised between the 1 year anniversary and the end of the fifth year.

Back then we thought these programs were pretty flashy, I mean creative. We were really moving forward. However, sometimes change is good and sometimes...... I often wonder if we haven't gone a little to far and if we really need all the options we have today. Or maybe that should be the options we had yesterday.

THINK ABOUT IT THOUGH.

Fully indexed rates.

Rates at the change date.

Might a return to using these guidelines be a good idea?

Would we have fewer defaults if these rules had been in place?

   

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

NO lifetime cap???  Eeeeekkk!!!!

I can remember selling a LOT of homes financed with a one year 2/6 ARM.  The buyers were usually qualified at the second year rate.  ARMs were a real bargain in those days.  Not so much today.  I still go for the ARM over time.

I can also remember writing VA loans a 10% with 3 points, ALL TO THE SELLER.  Try to sell that to a seller.

Of course, if our market gets any worse, it may be possible.

Times have changed a lot.

Nice post.  Thanks.

Aug 04, 2007 01:28 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

lenn,

it was a different time wasn't it. shows us what our real sales capacities are though doesn't it.

seller's points. how about when they weren't locked through a rate change? ouch! 

Aug 04, 2007 01:32 AM
Bruce Bourgault, Vice President, Mpro
Central Pacific Homeloans - Honolulu, HI
Hi Jay -- Thanks for the trip down memory lane.  That loan was at 12.75% when I started in the business.  Because of the pay rate cap and no interest rate cap and interest rates started falling, my borrowers were prepaying principal big time and thought I was the smartest mortgage banker in the land.  Aloha
Aug 04, 2007 05:45 AM
Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

Convincing Buyers to use ARM financing in those days was difficult enough.  Those clients can't thank me enough, even today.  They were ecstatic to see values jump up when conventional rates came down to the 8's and 9's.

 

Aug 04, 2007 07:06 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

bruce,

you are one of the smartest bankers in the land.

kevin,

we marketed 10.125 first year, 12.125 second year, 14.125 third year; average 12.125. then...

get ride of it. 

 

    

Aug 04, 2007 08:23 AM
Joan Mirantz
Homequest Real Estate - Concord, NH
Realtor, GRI, CBR, SRES - Concord New Hampshire
Hi Jay....when we got our first house in Concord the rate was 13.5% We didn't think it was out of whack at the time!
Aug 04, 2007 12:25 PM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

joan,

there was a time back then when 13.5% might have meant that rates had come down some.

jay 

Aug 04, 2007 11:36 PM
Cristy Smith
mmm - Austin, TX

Wow even though the rates keep rising today we are not anywhere close to that 13% or 14% yet. Thanks for the great info.

Cristy Redden 

Aug 05, 2007 12:12 AM
Joan Mirantz
Homequest Real Estate - Concord, NH
Realtor, GRI, CBR, SRES - Concord New Hampshire
I guess there is a lot of truth in the phrase "it's all relative"! Perhaps we should be educating the younger members of our communities to what "has been" so the panic will not run so deep?
Aug 05, 2007 03:15 AM
Jay Beckingham
Christensen Financial Mortgage - Port St Lucie, FL
Seniors ROCK!

Christy,

when i see/hear the woe is me/us crowd it's easy for me to picture times that were a lot tougher than this.

during the banking crisis awhile back i was in NH and the feds closed our 5 largest banks all in the same day.

now that was fun!

just remember.........."THIS TOO WILL PASS"  

joan,

remember the bank closings? 

Aug 05, 2007 04:54 AM
Joan Mirantz
Homequest Real Estate - Concord, NH
Realtor, GRI, CBR, SRES - Concord New Hampshire
I sure do...and everyone thought we would never recover...but we did,and then some!
Aug 05, 2007 12:55 PM