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How I Get My Listings so Well-Priced. It's Simple, But It Works For Me...

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Real Estate Agent with New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County

One of the biggest gripes both Listing Agents have, and Buyer's Agents too, for that matter... is trying to sell/show a home that is way over-priced.

When I talk with some of the Listing Agents who have these OPT's on the market... (Over Priced Turkeys), I of course usually inquire about just WHY... the home is priced where it is.

The answer... is most often the same.  This is what the seller insisted it be priced at.

I would never show my sellers any sort of "prepared" graphs, charts, or those cutesy CMA presentations that some of the MLS's kick out.  Never.  Or at least not until I had pulled the correct listing price out of them... first.

I repeat.  I would not tell them my recommendation.  And I would not show them a CMA all typed out and pretty-like.

Here's what I do.

Before I start... I make sure I have printed out the individual comps... solds, availables, but also "pendings." One printed sheet for each home.

I would show them... each comp... one by one... and we would discuss each one.  Usually, they were homes the sellers were familiar with. 

Obviously the most important of the comps... were the "solds."

I would parade in front of them as many sold comparable properties as I could find... all the time asking them questions about each one... and getting their opinions as to how those homes may have compared to their own.

All through this... I was leading them where I wanted them to go... which of course, is a realistic price.

Then... I would talk about how it is NOT the seller who determines the price.  Of course, when I said that... they would look at me kinda funny-like... (I get that a lot... LOL)... and then they'd try and guess that it would be the buyer. 

Noper... said I.  Nor is it the Realtor either. 

The one who most determines the price... is the appraiser.  That is when I would really start laying the blame... or the answer for the suggested list price... right square at the feet of the appraiser.

I'd tell them about the appraisal process... and about how the appraiser has to submit the closest three comparable sales she can find... to justify her price.

Then we would talk about how "accountable" the appraiser had to be... in substantiating, or "proving" the price of the house... when they did the appraisal.

Finally... I would ask the seller this: 

Mr and Mrs Seller... if you were the appraiser, and your job, your entire career, your family's future income... if all of that was riding on your submitting the three best comps that "prove the price..." which three would you choose ?  Now remember... your job as an appraiser... depends on you picking the most correct three !"

I have rarely, if ever, seen this fail.  Usually they end up picking even lower comps than I would have used to determine their asking price.

If they absolutely INSIST on a much higher price than reasonable... well... I will cover that... in my next post.

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Comments(125)

Geri Sonkin
Douglas Elliman Real Estate 516-457-7103 - Merrick, NY
Long Island Real Estate & Staging Expert

I love the way you do that.  I've always told my seller that neither they nor I determine the price their home will sell for.  The market decides.  After reading your way of dealing with it, I will definitely go your route the next time, which should be within the next week.  

I can't wait for your next installment.

May 18, 2010 01:11 PM
Teaching Amanda Fische
Teaching Amanda Fische - Denver, CO
Offering 30 plus years of sales insights

I Like that approach Karen.

May 18, 2010 01:49 PM
Linda Metallo DiBenardo
RE/MAX Impact, Lockport, Illinois - Lockport, IL

Now I know what an OPT is.  Karen Anne, good approach, similiar to what I do also.

 

May 18, 2010 02:26 PM
Kent Dills
Broker, Dills Real Estate - Bellingham, WA
Real Estate 817-495-8028, Bellingham, Washington

Simply BRILLIANT approach to consulting the buyers and letting them arrive at the best price to start listing at.  I think I'll definitely use this in the future.  In the past, I hadn't really blamed the Appraiser but focused more on "what the market is telling us".  But, the idea of placing the sellers in the Appraiser's shoes and telling them them job/livelihood depended on it, really brings this home in about the most personal way I've ever heard.  Good job fellow DFW'er Karen!

May 18, 2010 02:43 PM
Lane Bailey
Century 21 Results Realty - Suwanee, GA
Realtor & Car Guy

Interesting approach, and I love that it works for you.  I don't tell people what to list their home at... I let them tell me... we talk, and then VERY often I reject the listing.  This might convert a few more of them. 

May 18, 2010 03:08 PM
Rob Lang
At Home Kansas - Shawnee, KS
Local Expert in NE Central Kansas Real Estate Home

I was alarmed at your insistence at not using a CMA (at first).  I have a similar method of talking through comparables.  

Great post!

May 18, 2010 03:54 PM
Kelly Cordova-Armer
Cornerstone Real Estate Professionals - Ogden, UT
Selling with Soul amidst the Utah Mountains!

Karen Anne - Thank you for your post, well said.  I learned from an "old school" Broker - and I'm so happy I did.. doesn't it make sense to go "one by one" through each sold/active and even expireds with a Seller?  The fancy schmancy CMA's are never right, are they?  I've never used them. Maybe great for the Graphs and for the Engineers. I thought most Realtors that have been around - prefer your technique exactly!  Yeah - for old school and simplicity!  I like your style!

May 18, 2010 04:02 PM
Joe Manausa - Tallahassee, FL
Joe Manausa Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Tallahassee Real Estate

Superb stuff Karen. I will incorporate this approach at my company. Thank you for sharing.

May 19, 2010 12:04 AM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

This was just a fabulous post!  I am going to alter my approach to establish price.  I always talk about the appraisal but that is at the end of the discussion.  My making it the focal point, I think that it will be much harder for the seller to argue about what they "need" to get or how they are not going to "give away" their house.  Thanks!

May 19, 2010 04:20 AM
Esperanza ButlerĀ® 818 926 5425
Your Home Sold Guaranteed Realty - West Hills, CA
Homes For Sale in West Hills, Ca (818) 926-5425

Karen,

Thank you for sharing

May 19, 2010 01:27 PM
Damon Gettier
Damon Gettier & Associates, REALTORS- Roanoke Va Short Sale Expert - Roanoke, VA
Broker/Owner ABRM, GRI, CDPE

Karen, we list houses EXACTLY the same way....almost word for word!  I NEVER give them my price....NEVER EVER!  But.....you told our secret!

May 19, 2010 01:49 PM
Gordon W. Miller
Green Mountain Real Estate - Burlington, VT

Great post. Thanks for sharing valuable and solid advice.

May 19, 2010 03:43 PM
Julia Odom
Select Realty Professionals - Chattanooga, TN
Chattanooga Homes for Sale

Genius, brilliant, whatever you want to call it. I love this approach. Making the seller own their own pricing is the best idea I've heard all day.

May 20, 2010 04:03 PM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

Wonderful explanation. On my listing appointment..it is explained that  the house has to sell to the following three:

1. to the other agent so they will bring the buiyer

2. to the buyer

3. to the appraiser

 

Margaret

May 20, 2010 04:11 PM
John Grasty
for real estate results in the Tri-Cities. - Port Moody, BC
Your Tri-cities REALTOR, neighbour and volunteer.

If they absolutely INSIST on a much higher price than reasonable... well... I will cover that... in my next post.”

I’m looking forward to it Karen Anne and thank you in advance.

 

May 22, 2010 06:39 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

I love your listing presentation techniques to get the seller to suggest a price.  I train agents quite similarly.  We NEVER leave a CMA.  We do give them info and then ASK.

That way you find out how realistic the sellers are.  If they are focused on "how much they want" or how much they need", blah, blah, blah, the are not smart about the market, the value of their home or much of anything. 

However, if they really want to sell and are realistic, once they have a handle on the market, we can usually come to an understanding.

AS A BUYER'S AGENT, for me. ..

If a home for sale is in the right area for my buyer, even if it's overpriced, we look.

MAKE AND OFFER.  You might be surprised at the result.  Last year I sold a wonderful small horse farm in Loudoun County that was priced at $579,900. 

We offered $475,000.

We eventually closed at $505,000, a good price for my buyers because the house appraised at $535,000.

You just never know.

May 27, 2010 04:26 AM
Dan Weis
Comey & Shepherd Realtors - Cincinnati, OH
Cincy Real Estate Advisor

Hi Karen,

Great post!  Reading through the comments is also just as valuable. 

In the end, pricing it properly ends up doing what everyone wants...a sale.

Sep 07, 2010 06:21 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Dan:  I am glad you liked it.  Usually the comments on my posts are excellent, because the commentors know that together we develop a dialogue or conversation... rather than a list of "comment and run" folks.

The listing and pricing technique I use as described in my post... is excellent, and it almost always works.  Sometimes, it gets to where it is almost funny.

By the way... if you are new to reading my posts... the majority of them are like this... so might I suggest that you subscribe to my blog ?  Thanks a bunch, and take care...

Sep 07, 2010 06:28 PM
William James Walton Sr.
WEICHERT, REALTORSĀ® - Briotti Group - Waterbury, CT
Greater Waterbury Real Estate

Karen Anne, thanks for taking the time to share this with us. It is sheer genius. I will definitely use this approach in my listing presentations in  the future.

Jan 26, 2011 08:19 AM
Tamara Inzunza
Realty One Group Capital - Alexandria, VA
Close-In Alexandria and Arlington Living

I agree, thanks for sharing this approach.  I'm bookmarking this for future reference.  I love it when I learn something new in the Rain!

Jan 26, 2011 10:30 AM