I just read a post by Kurt Jackson called, "AHM The story behind the story".  In it he explains what might beahm logo happening at American Home Mortgage. 

Well, I can't say that I know specifically what happened at AHM, but it sounds like, from what Mr. Jackson had said, that they didn't buy a sizable enough "Forward commitment".  In essence, a forward commitment is the wholesaler's way of "locking-in" the interest rates that they are going to deliver to the market.

I've never done secondary marketing, but did spend a day in the secondary marketing department at a large wholesale lender.  These are the guys who commit to funding a certain amount of mortgages at a certain price.  They have to second guess how much production their company is going to have and where the bond markets are going.  They then "lock-in" that amount of money or if they think that rates are going to be going down, they don't buy that much coverage.

crystal ball and psychicFrom what I saw that day, secondary marketing has got to be one of the hardest jobs in mortgage banking!  For one, they have to second guess how many loans are actually going to fund that are locked in by their loan officers and brokers.  ---This is one of the reasons that the practice that some loan officers/mortgage companies have of locking a loan at a particular investor and then not delivering it if rates go down (because they ended up selling the loan to a different investor when they saw that they could make more money ) sucks and makes wholesalers angry.---

Secondly, they have to second guess where interest rates are going to be.  If they guess that rates are going to go up and buy a lot of coverage and interest rates go down (see above about brokers not delivering loans), they still have to pay for that coverage.

If they guess that rates are going to be going down and instead they go up, well they committed to delivering these mortgages.  If they don't, they have to make up the difference.  This is basically what Kurt Jackson was describing.

As I mentioned, this is an aspect of the market that I'm not terribly well educated in, but this is how I understand it to be.  I do know that the investors have various hedging tools available to them to protect themselves in the event that they guess wrong and I don't know why AHM didn't hedge their bets or if they did, what went wrong.  

My guess is that there is more to the story that meets the eye right now and I'm sure that there are a lot more stories out there.  The longer this downturn in the industry goes on, the more we're going to hear about them.

If there is somebody out there who is more familiar with the AHM story or in secondary marketing in general, I'd love to hear from you.

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

 

 

9 Comments on Secondary Marketing or what happens when your investor doesn't lock your loan!

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05
2007
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Bob,

Great addition to what we've been talking about.  From what I understand AHM had bought forward commitments it's just that the funding source on Wall Street won't honor their commitments to AHM becacuse of the reassessment of risk on those types of loans so the you know what started to flow down hill from there.

8:45pm • #1
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Kurt:  If they bought the commitments and they weren't honored, then we're all going to be in trouble!  I'll admit, from what I saw in that office that day, I didn't completely understand it all (and I went to school for economics!).  I feel for the people hurt in this fiasco!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

8:51pm • #2
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Bob....  Kurt beat me to the punch line. I know many that work at AHM. I actually use to work for Columbia National Mortgage who was bought out by AHM. In any case, Kurt hit the nail on the head. And you did a good job of explaining forward commitments. The bottom line here is that investors on Wall Street can do what they want, when they want. Yes, it is scary. And one point that you did make that so many loan officers don't understand is when they do lock with multiple companies. They think no harm.,,,,,   wonder how they would feel if their local banks did that with their checking and savings accounts... lol

jeff belonger

11:10pm • #3
AUG
06
2007
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Jeff:  I'm reserving my judgment for right now.  If what you guys are saying happened at AHM, then I would imagine that it's going to happen to a lot of wholesale investors because the same market forces that were hurting AHM are hurting all of the other wholesalers.

My question would be why did "Wall Street" decide to do this to AHM and not to any one of a hundred other wholesalers.  The relationships that AHM and the various Wall Street entities had was or should have been governed by agreements.  I can't imagine any company playing at that level not negotiating some sort of protection into their agreements.

I suspect that as this plays out, we'll find out that there was more going on at AHM that what is being said right now.  

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

9:22am • #4
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when you buy a put you pay for it . it's hard to believe it wouldn't be honored. however depending on how much coverage you purchase you might have left a great deal of your pipeline exposed.

also if you don't meet all of the delivery criteria you might have loans sitting on your warehouselines which are,'t being purchased. furthermore repurchases clog the lines.

if you can't get it bought you can't do the loan. they did the loans and can't get them bought.

night, night 

9:43am • #5
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Jay:  This is what I'm thinking might have happened, but we'll see.

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

9:55am • #6
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Bob.. I think you explained it very well
11:54am • #7
AUG
07
2007
479,909 Points 151 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Jay hits the nail on the head. Countrywide has been doing this too many of their brokers in the last 4 months. "not meeting the delivery criteria" is extremely huge and is happening more and more. Great point...

jeff belonger

 

6:43am • #8
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Jeff:  I'm a bit confused.  What exactly do you guys mean when you say, "not meeting the delivery criteria"?  Are they approving loans that shouldn't be approved?  Putting loans in the pool that shouldn't be there?  Like I said, I'm confused????;-)

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

10:10am • #9

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