I became a licensed real estate agent in 1990. In order to obtain my license, I needed to take several classes and one of them was an ethics class. In California, you need to have a real estate license to broker loans or broker real estate or manage real property.  If you are a member of the national Association of Realtors, you have to adhere to a code of conduct and ethics in order to call yourself a Realtor.

 If you were brought up right, you know the difference between right and wrong. Your parents taught you ethics from the day you were born. My own thoughts on the subject are that by the time you reach adolescence, your own personal ethics are pretty much a part of who you are and will shape the adult that you will become.

 I was on a message board last week with several of my peers in the mortgage business and an interesting topic came up. A husband & wife lived in a home that was foreclosed upon and the loan had been in the husband's name alone. The wife wanted to buy the home back from the bank and the loan officer turned to his peers for advice on how to do this loan. Many people came down on this guy and called him unethical. Of course, the story was not black and white. These people were scraping by and times were tough and they tried to modify their mortgage and they were taking advice from a loan modification company not to pay the mortgage and the house was foreclosed upon. They got bad advice and it cost them their home. Another loan officer told of a woman who came to him to get a loan to buy a home being sold in a short sale. The home was her boyfriend's house and she had been living there for years. The loan officer said he would not help her and she went somewhere else and got the loan done. My friend lost a commission but he did not put his ethics or his license on the line.

 I am reminded of a quote. "When your values are clear, making decisions become easier."  - Roy Disney

I shared this with my peers on the message board and a lot of people sympathized with this guy who just wanted to help a good person in a bad situation (and make a commission too!). I had to point out that most mortgage fraud is not some big banker working with a dirty appraiser to make millions of dollars in fraudulent loans; most mortgage fraud is a one time offender helping what they thought was a good person who simply did not fit in the box and most of the time they are caught because the loan goes bad. In both cases above, the only way to get these loans done is to lie about where these women lived for the last few years. Someone else on the message board said; Forget ethics for a minute and ask yourself if helping someone buy a house is worth risking your career, huge fines and jail time? Are you doing it for them or the commission?

 Another quote. "If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said." - unknown.

Over the years I have had many clients try and do things the wrong way and I am happy to report that after counseling, many of them do decide to do things the right way and the ones that don't are no longer clients. Ethics is not just a class but sometimes it doesn't hurt to have little reminders along the way.

 Please email or call me with any real estate and mortgage related questions. I am happy to answer you and it may become the topic of a future article. 


Hans Bruhner, CMPS is a branch manager for First Priority Financial. Hans is licensed by the CA DRE # 01085398.  If you have a question, please contact him at (707) 887-1275 or hans@hansblog.com or stop by www.AskTheLoanMan.com

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8 Comments on Ethics, not just a class

MAY
24
2010
260,292 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

Unfortunately the 'enforcement' of the rules seems way too lax which is why we have so many problem agents and brokers.  Anytime that you need to cover over some truths should be a red flag.

Thanks for an interesting post!

11:32am • #1
509,738 Points 8 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hans, I have said "no" to many people.. in one case an agent asked why I wouldnt take the deal and I said "because I dont want to go to jail"  pretty simple stuff!

It goes beyond the black and white situations as well, I have had clients that I have told to sell their homes instead of refinancing, because it was better for them, and that was always followed up with "I can only feed my kids when I close loans, and I am telling you to sell your home"

but they only half listen and find someone else to put them deeper in a hole that they will never get out of.

This business is not about the comission check, it is about the client.  I use that quote about the truth all the time, it is much easier to remember the truth!

11:34am • #2
109,882 Points 8 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Sometimes rules are made to be broken, JUST NOT BY ME!  I will not help anyone do the wrong thing.  Period. 

The lax enforcement is the inducement.  How can a realtor (LO or attorney) compile enough transactions to be charged with $17.5 million in fraud?  Because the watchers are NOT WATCHING

Those charged with monitoring such activity should also be brought before a court charged with dereliction of duty.

12:03pm • #3
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Michael, I totally agree with you but the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction and most of the bad actors have left the mortgage business and we are over regulating the industry now. Even with over regulation and legislation, we are still missing some thing.

Robert, you and I are on the same page my friend.

Jenna, wow! thank you. the lax enforcement is the inducement but you are not breaking the rules and the people that are need to be punished and the people that are keeping watch should be watched as well.

THANKS!

12:33pm • #4
MAY
25
2010
509,738 Points 8 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Hans, I think that is probably why you and I are still in this crazy biz!  In my area it seems like nothing but the old guys that hit the business pre-2000 that survived.

12:23pm • #5

The quote, "If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said." is not unknown. It is by my wise old grandmother. She told me that when she adopted me in 1965. Of course, I'm pretty sure lots of other wise old grandmothers — and mothers and fathers, too — told their children that! LOL

12:45pm • #6

By the way, ethics might not be a class, but I can guarantee you that those with class have ethics.

12:52pm • #7
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Robert - YES!

Russell - you scared me there for a minute. I am hoping that my children tell others and credit me for that one.

12:53pm • #8


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