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 A family on my street sold their home privately last month and followed up with an offer on a resale home in another area of town. Both transactions set to take place on the same day as is typical in this scenario. The husband, a nice enough guy, asked me to list their current home in March and at the last minute he decided to list privately and coincidentally at the very price I suggested their home should list at during my spring meeting with them.

The husband approached me while I was washing the car on Sunday morning. He wanted my advice. His home had been sold and he had a closing date that was just a couple weeks away. The purchasers for his current home had just informed him that they would not be following through on their purchase and further to that, asked for their $2000 deposit back.

The only way my neighbour is able to close on the purchase of his new home is with the successful sale of his existing home and although the least of his pending worries, he is most likely going to lose his paid deposit on the purchased home, listed by a licensed Realtor and with a legally binding contract in place that will serve to protect the vendors well in the likely lawsuit for damaged pending through his breaching the purchase contract.

Those sellers listed with a Realtor and having legally binding contracts in place can site lost or delay of opportunity to sell, costs and inconveniences incurred on a home they may have purchased on the expectation of their home being sold firm which might include legal costs, mortgage penalties, moving costs in the outcome of them now having to breach their purchase contract. This domino effect may continue further on from there as most home sales result in another purchase.

He and his family also face ramifications from lenders with whom he has a mortgage slated to discharge shortly and a new mortgage agreement set to begin. Changes to services, schools for his children and any other changes made will now have to be reversed or put on hold. This is a deteriorating situation no one wants to find themselves in.

If you read this and decide I am just trying to scare you, well yes, I am guilty as charged. Among other things, hiring a Realtor is like taking out an insurance policy, you don't take auto insurance on the expectation of the worst happening and most of you will likely make it to and from work this week without a scratch, but you know that risk exists and you make responsible choices to protect yourself and your family from those worst case scenarios should they arise.

I asked my neighbour if he would show me the contracts for his sale. On inspecting it I told him the lax single page contract of purchase on his existing home was not likely to be considered a legally binding document with its many un-initialed changes, signature of only one of the purchasing parties and no acceptance acknowledged in writing by the sellers. Given that, I told him he stood little chance of recourse with his default buyers, but he was free to find another buyer and one option might be to reduce the price of his house by at least part of the amount he stands to lose by defaulting on his purchase and hope for an unlikely quick sale and closing.

My neighbour's efforts were all well intended but his attempt to save himself a few thousand dollars by not paying to have a professional oversee the sale from sign up to closing of his family's largest single asset was short sighted if not foolish given the lack of understanding therefore ability to protect his family from the many scenarios that often crop up in what looks to many Canadians from the outside to be a simple transaction.

Here is a valuable tip: The easier a professional makes their work appear be it your dentist, mechanic, carpenter etc. isn’t necessarily a reflection of the simplicity of the tasks. There is also the possibility it is the fruit of their accumulated experience and acquired wisdom at their trade. Translated, the simpler your Realtor makes the purchase or sale look and feel the more value you got for your investment.

 

 

 

 

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57 Comments on If you want to gamble, book a trip to Vegas, leave Real Estate to the professionals

MAY
25
2010
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Wow, Mike! What are these people thinking, going unrepresented into perhaps the largest single financial transaction of their lives?

1:25pm • #1
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This is a great testimonial that gives weight to our profession.  Thank you for adding this my arsenal!

3:01pm • #2
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A gamble is a good comparison - certainly as you said, people might luck out and everything will go smoothly - but when things go bad, they often go horribly bad!  And so true, that experience and professionalism can make real estate transactions look deceptively easy.

3:02pm • #3
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Hi Mike,  Well written post and your " Valuable Tip " was as good as any I've read.  Well done !

3:04pm • #4
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You're too kind.  If my neighbor would have done something on their own, I would have said, "Hmmm sorry . . . but YOYO!"  That was very nice of you to review their documents.  Yeah, a contingent offer, a buyer that backed out, a one-page contract that dosen't seem to be fully executed . . . HA HA HA HA HA  Everyone wants to play Realtor. 

*YOYO = You're on your own!"

3:16pm • #5

Mike,

Your neighbor should be glad "you're" his neighbor.  Everything looks easy until it isn't. 

3:21pm • #6
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Mike - People should be fearful of the unknown; that's why they need the guidance of professionals.  Most buyers/sellers trying to save a few thousand end up in trouble (as your neighbor) or spending more in the process.

3:28pm • #7
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Bravo! Love the valuable tip!

3:31pm • #8
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People unfortunately do this all too often -- we met a couple recently who had bought a home unrepresented and likely ended up paying about $200k too much for the home they bought ---- they were not represented and had apparently no idea -- bought from a private seller --  likely the seller could not believe their lucky stars that someone came along to pay that much in cash , no appraisal ! Go figure .

3:33pm • #9
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"The easier a professional makes their work appear be it your dentist, mechanic, carpenter etc. isn't necessarily a reflection of the simplicity of the tasks."

This is absolutely true!

3:49pm • #11
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My goodness what a nightmare for the seller.  I bet he uses a Realtor from here on out when selling or purchasing a house. A hard lesson to learn....like this post!

4:11pm • #12
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Mike, this is one of the best blogs I've read in some time and we sure do get some good ones here.  You have really taken a situation and spelled it out for us in a way we (hopefully) can relay to our own prospective buyers and sellers.  I'm amazed at how many people will do really risky things to save a dollar.  I need surgery on my eye.  I wonder...maybe I could just take my little manicure scissors and do it myself.  What do you think?

4:19pm • #13

Great blog.  It always amazes me how laymen think our job is so easy.  The FSBO's that do close have probably been consulting their "REALTOR" friends.  Wonder how your neighbor would react if his employer asked him to work some says for free.

4:40pm • #15
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I hope that stories like this help people understand the intricacies of our business - and how they should value our expertise.

4:48pm • #16
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Well lesson learned hard way!! like the comparison:-)

4:55pm • #17
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Excellent post - not shocked at all! My favorite line, "Translated, the simpler your Realtor makes the purchase or sale look and feel, the more value you got for your investment." So, what happened - did he finally hire you?

4:55pm • #18
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In the course of business we run into this on a weekly basis.  We hear of stories like this and or of home sellers that are on this path.  We as an industry are here to help, they may not believe it but we are.

Robert Earl

5:10pm • #19
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Your Final paragraph is the BEST !  I hope you don't mind if I borrow it sometime.    I wish this home owner would write a testimonial, as to why he Should have used a Realtor!  Does he even have regrets not listing with you?

5:22pm • #21
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I'm not sure he has made the connection between his predicament and not having a Realtor Stephanie. He still has his red with white letters - hardware store for sale sign on the lawn.

5:57pm • #22
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Mike,

Wait. After all that and he still has the "For Sale by Owner" sign on his lawn?  Has he hired a real estate attorney to help with paperwork so the same thing doesn't happen again? Or is he using your advice for Round 2?  Either way, I'd stay well away from the neighbor and would keep my comments to myself. The last thing you want is to find yourself dragged into this vortex of real estate hell. Yikes.

7:04pm • #24
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Isn't it amazing when things go sideways all of a sudden the FSBOs needs to talk to a Realtor.

8:15pm • #25
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Thanks for the tip. Could you hear your neighbor coming by the sound of his pride being swallowed? Takes a set to come and ask advice after what he did to you.

8:37pm • #26
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Mike, 

Great post.  I find in many cases this "saving of a commission" actually costs them money.  Sometimes buyers think they are saving half of the commission in purchase price, only to find out later the agent got the whole commission and they didn't get any representation.  

I am happy to work for folks who appreciate my knowledge and know what real savings are:-)

All the best, Michelle

8:54pm • #27
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Thank you for the great post!  Now, seriously...I'd like to take a few of the lines (or paragraphs(:) and use them myself---this is me asking for permission.  (please!)

 

8:56pm • #28
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Wow, Mike, how frightening. It really does show that people need to hire professionals!

9:05pm • #29

I would suggest you get any borrowed tools back from this neighbor before he disappears

9:11pm • #30
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Yes he saved money on not paying a commission. But he lost in the end, maybe.

9:28pm • #31
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For some reason that I will never understand, people have the general misconception that using a Realtor is not worth the money. Rich Dad Poor Dad author points out that we think nothing of paying 15% for horrible restaurant service, but have terrible trouble parting with 6% on the most important asset that we own.

9:39pm • #32
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lack of representation = lack of knowledge

This sums up why I wouldn't ask my yard guy for legal advice. 

9:40pm • #33
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Christa, feel free to use the content from this post. Hopefully you get to share it with someone willing to listen!

10:01pm • #34
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Mike: If you ask me, the seller is getting a little bit of what he deserves, and I hope others learn from this mistake.

10:08pm • #35
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Hooray for Realtors!  Thanks for a great anecdote describing our professionalism.

10:15pm • #36
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Amazing how little representation by a professional cost. Amazing how much trying to save yourself a buck can cost you.

11:14pm • #37
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Oh, man, this one brings out the evil in me.... I am not loving thy neighbor!!! But it appears opportunity could knock, afterall. Love your last words... good post.

11:23pm • #38
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These are the same people that bring half their family along when they buy a car and wring their hands for weeks prior to buying a flat screen TV. Then, in a transaction many times their annual income, they fly by the seat of their pant, flipping the bird at us for our "cut."

11:23pm • #39
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Perhaps a new reality tv show on this topic -- wait, there already is one, with omnious music, etc.  I see this on occasion as well as well as many mistakes made by the do-it-yourself crowd. 

11:43pm • #40
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26
2010

Hi Mike, just wanted to add my thanks to a well written article, enjoyed the read, maybe if that sort of story made the national press it might make a few people think it through. Thanks Mike. Regards, Ian Hocking

12:05am • #41
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Unrespresented sellers at thier best -- great read. 

 

So did they list their home with you?

12:25am • #42

Mike,

I love it when the wheels fall off and they run to the Realtor to "fix please".

12:37am • #43
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This is an illuminating story about what can happen if with FSBO's and I love the concept that working with a Realtor is insurance.

Why do people think they can do better than a professional?

12:40am • #44
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I particularly like your last line about the easier it looks the more value you received.

3:08am • #45

Another great story on why to work with a professional.

Thanks for sharing

tom

7:24am • #46

Great blog. Having been an auto tech, I can relate to that in more ways than one.   

Harold Smith
8:06am • #47

"If you read this and decide I am just trying to scare you, well yes, I am guilty as charged. Among other things, hiring..."

It sounds like you have to sell the "fear factor" to sell your services, not a good sign.  Realtors please don't use this strategy to sell your services, it makes you sound desperate.

If you do your homework on a FSBO and by that I mean do your due diligence, it really is not that hard to sell FSBO (I've done it several times).  I knew what my house was worth, I knew how to go about getting a answer if I didn't know it, and so on.  I was very prepared to handle what came up.  So please don't judge every FSBO a some dim wit that just sticks a sign in yard and we won't judge every realtor as some well...you know what.  

10:09am • #48
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Fantastic Post.  Re-blogging for people in my area. Thanks!

11:05am • #49
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Reminds me of a line I heard somewhere "I was absolutely certain of my distance from the wall...and then it hit me"

To the anonymous poster, you could well be my neighbour as he speaks with the same assumed sense of confidence. Fear is healthy my friend, fear is what keeps most of us from sticking our hand in the fire over and over again. My dim whit neighbour as you call him was completely capable of handling the sale of a home in as much as I am capable of sailing a yacht on a calm sunny day.

I can present you with dozens upon dozens of ego deflating real estate transaction scenarios I have witnessed or have been part of that test the metal of the best in the business and require resources you just don't possess nor did I ten years ago. No not all FSBO's are dim whits,  not all accident victims are bad drivers either. Happy Sailing.

 

 

11:11am • #50

And yet I can also present dozens upon dozens of homes that sold privately without even as much as a hiccup...so big deal.   Your neighbor did not do his due diligence, end of story.

Reminds me of a line I heard once too, "the only thing to fear is fear itself."

"Assumed sense of confidence" you betch ya!

2:03pm • #51
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RE: And yet I can also present dozens upon dozens of homes that sold privately without even as much as a hiccup...so big deal.   Your neighbor did not do his due diligence, end of story.

Thanks for sharing your perspective for everyone here.

It's not right to lead people to believe selling a home is a cakewalk when it isn't. Some deals go over without a hitch, some do not and when they don't many are left financially stripped.

As someone who does their due diligence and for those less adept as yourself, you will be grateful for this partial list of some of the more common "hiccups" that can and do occur and often end up as deal breakers that can lead to more serious problems such as my neighbour is up against. Not all of them are preventable or foreseeable but you can save yourself  allot of grief by structuring your documentation in a manor that prepares for these and other scenarios. 

The Buyer/Borrower:

1. Does not tell the truth on the loan application.

2. Submits incorrect information to the lender.

3. Has recent late payments on credit report.

4. Found out about additional debt after loan application.

5. Borrower loses job.

6. Co-borrower loses job.

7. Income verification lower than what was stated on loan application.

8. Overtime income not allowed by underwriter for qualifying.

9. Applicant makes large purchase on credit before closing.

10. Illness, injury, divorce or other financial setback during escrow.

11. Lacks motivation.

12. Gift donor changes mind.

13. Cannot locate divorce decree.

14. Cannot locate petition or discharge of bankruptcy.

15. Cannot locate tax returns.

16. Cannot locate bank statements.

17. Difficulty in obtaining verification of rent.

18. Interest rate increases and borrower no longer qualifies.

19. Loan program changes with higher rates, points and fees.

20. Child support not disclosed on application.

21. Borrower is a foreign national.

22. Bankruptcy within the last 2 years.

23. Mortgage payment is double the previous housing payment.

24. Borrower/co-borrower does not have steady 2-year employment history.

25. Borrower brings in handwritten pay stubs.

26. Borrower switches to job requiring probation period just before

closing.

27. Borrower switches to job from salary to 100% commission income.

28. Borrower/co-borrower/seller dies.

29. Family members or friends do not like the home buyer chooses.

30. Buyer is too picky about property in price range they can afford.

31. Buyer feels the house is misrepresented.

32. Veterans DD214 form not available.

33. Buyer has spent money needed for down payment and closing costs and

comes up short at closing.

34. Buyer does not properly "paper trail" additional money that comes

from gifts, loans, etc.

35. Does not bring cashier’s check to title company for closing costs

and down payment.

The Seller:

36. Loses motivation to sell (job transfer does not go through,

reconciles marriage, etc.)

37. Cannot find a suitable replacement property.

38. Will not allow appraiser inside home.

39. Will not allow inspectors inside home in a timely manner.

40. Removes property from the premises the buyer believed was included.

41. Is unable to clear up liens against their property – short on cash

to close.

42. Did not own 100% of property as previously disclosed.

43. Thought getting partners signatures were "no problem," but they

were.

44. Leaves town without giving anyone Power of Attorney.

45. Delays the projected move-out date.

46. Did not complete the repairs agreed to in contract.

47. Seller’s home goes into foreclosure during escrow.

48. Misrepresents information about home & neighborhood to the buyer.

49. Does not disclose all hidden or unknown defects and they are

subsequently discovered.

50. Builder miscalculates completion date of new home.

51. Builder has too many cost overruns.

52. Final inspection on new home does not pass.

53. Seller does not appear for closing and won’t sign papers.

 

The Property:

54. Mineral rights to property not disclosed by vendor

55. Waterfront ownership of land differs from disclosure

56. Restrictive covenants, encroachments and encumbrances not revealed on survey

57. Survey not to date and does not reveal all current details of property

58. Environmental protections, native restrictions, high water lines not disclosed prohibiting future alterations to property

59. Development plans of nearby properties not disclosed or unknown affecting future value of property

60. Non disclosure of stigmas affecting property value

61. Non disclosure of previous illegal use of property affecting structural integrity and value

62. County will not approve septic system or well.

63. Termite report reveals substantial damage and seller is not willing

to fix or repair.

64. Home was misrepresented as to size and condition.

65. Home is destroyed prior to closing.

66. Home not structurally sound.

67. Home is uninsurable for homeowners insurance.

68. Property incorrectly zoned.

69. Portion of home sits on neighbors property.

70. Unique home and comparable properties for appraisal difficult to

find.

The Escrow/Title Company:

71. Fails to notify lender/agents of unsigned or unreturned documents.

72. Fails to obtain information from beneficiaries, lien holders,

insurance companies, or lenders in a timely manner.

73. Lets principals leave town without getting all necessary signatures.

74. Loses or incorrectly prepares paperwork.

75. Does not pass on valuable information quickly enough.

76. Does not coordinate well, so that many items can be done

simultaneously.

77. Does not find liens or any title problems until the last minute.

 

2:34pm • #52
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Your last paragraph is wonderfully said.  I just recently had a neighbor ask me all kinds of questions about his house, sit on my couch on a Sunday and just bug me, then sold it himself, then unsold it, then listed with another realtor.  Neighbors are just exhausting expecting all this free advice.

5:17pm • #53
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Why waste your time when there are many real clients out there. Tell him to poound sand on move on.  I don't work for friends and only a few neighbors.

6:59pm • #54
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19
2010
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Mike, I actively pursued FSBO's, and find most of the Sellers I have met are just plained misinformed.  Your post demonstrates just one of hundred's of fiascos that occur with much greater frequency in private sales than in Realtor aided sales, isn't it funny that while the media publishes much content about Private Sales (a lot of the information coming from FSBO companies), they seem to under publicize the reality of many of the outcomes. 

12:38pm • #56
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20
2010
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Wow, a tale of caution indeed.  And I do not think it is necessarily the exception.  Nice post.

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Whew, while I don't think I'd ever consider selling myself ... I did buy a FSBO because it was the style home, in the location we wanted. This was 1994 and I paid our realtor who was showing us homes, $1,000 to give us all the required paperwork although we managed process having already bought 6 houses in 3 states.

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