200,000 Points And Nothing But Great Relationships To Show For It

200000 points on activerain by jeff turnerI stopped caring about the points a long time ago.

It didn't take long to realize the the real value of this network went far beyond having my face move up the rankings. It's too simple to rack up meaningless points for that to even be a challenge, and lots have written about how to do that, so the points soon lost their appeal.

That's not to say the points don't matter. That's is clearly not true. The only folks who say points don't matter on ActiveRain are those who already have a lot of points. I'm not going to join that chorus.

The points matter.

  • Points help distinguish you from the myriad who simply sign up here.
  • Points put your face in front of new members and internet wanderers.
  • Points will bring you increased exposure and random traffic, if only out of curiosity.
  • And if you're lucky, those same points allow you to speak to people you might otherwise not be able to speak to, because you will simply be seen more often.

You engaging others matters more.

  • Points don't make people subscribe to your posts.
  • Points don't influence a Realtor 10 states away to send you a referral.
  • Points won't drive a consumer to pick up the phone and call you after reading what you've written.
  • Points won't create relationships so real, that when you finally meet that person for the first time you feel like you're meeting an old friend.
  • Points won't tell your arms to reach out and hug them knowing that they truly are an old friend.

Yep, I've now got 200,000 points. And with each point that piles on, I care less and less. Because the relationships that I've developed here are cherished and authentic. They are relationships with people - real people - some of whom I've recently had the pleasure to greet, and hug. Sappy? I don't care. That's me.

So, while I can appreciate the value of these 200,000 points, I don't expect they'll be giving me a hug anytime soon.

:)

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Edit: I was just taking a trip down memory lane and found that the post I thought was the most visited, Sex And Real Estate :: Part 1, was not. The one listed below must have recently passed it, and it seemed appropriate to come back and link it here, since I called myself a newbie at the time.

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82 Comments on 200,000 Points And Nothing But Great Relationships To Show For It

Congratulations!  Now BB has someone to keep him company in the Throne Room. 

08/08/2007 01:41 AM by ARDELL DellaLoggia (Sound Realty)


Toy Boy... Hey 200,000 points is a lot of very good writing... and I'll give you a hug next time we  all get together.. and so will Laurie, and Lynda and Marlene and Irina...

08/08/2007 01:43 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Ardell... when BB is in the throne room, there is no room for anyone else. :)

Kaye... now that I'll look forward to! 

08/08/2007 01:45 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Congrats on the 200,000 points and more importantly the friendships you have established on AR!  I haven't been around very long, but have gotten to.  where I recognize certain people, just as if I were crossing paths with them in the community.  I actually picked up the phone and called one person after reading about her background.  We now exchange email regularly.  I would definitely call her a friend, even though we've never met face-to-face and have only spoken once very briefly on the phone.

08/08/2007 01:50 AM by Renee L Norton (Keller Williams Realty)


((((Jeff)))), be sappy all you want!  Congrats on the points and better yet on the hugs!  I'll take points and hugs any way they come, I have no shame :-) 

Here's one for you:

 big hug

 

08/08/2007 01:52 AM by Donna Yates, Georgia Realtor, North Georgia Blue Ridge Real Estate (Mountain Investments of North Georgia)


   Congratulations !!!   Partee time...  Aw, shucks.  I"ll give you a hug instead.

08/08/2007 01:53 AM by Marie Kletke - Broker Long Beach Real Estate (On Point Realty - Long Beach, California)


(((points))) That was a points hug.  And you made good points? So get to the point, why don't you? Oh, what's the point? It was nice of you to point out these points for us. Yes, I'm rambling. I really should get to the point. But it's pointless. 

smiley

08/08/2007 01:55 AM by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach Real Estate) (Adams Cameron and Company)


Jeff you make some very valid points (pun intended) about what we are really getting out of AR and what the points won't do for you. I like this one the most "Points won't create relationships so real, that when you finally meet that person for the first time you feel like you're meeting an old friend."

08/08/2007 01:56 AM by Albuquerque Real Estate | Ashley Drake Gephart (Keller Williams Realty)


You can cash those points in for a new v705 on Chris' prize catalogue

200,000 reasons you made such great relationships here!!!  I'm glad I was here to experience most of those points.

Now come on over here and gimme a big hug :)

08/08/2007 01:59 AM by Bob Carney Licensed MD/PA Real Estate Agent (Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc.)


Renee... you're going to find that experience repeating itself a great deal I suspect. 

Donna... :) thanks!

Marie... thank you as well.  

Lisa... nice points hug! Still laughing at your points.

Ashley... this past week in SF was icing on a cake I had already begun to enjoy.

08/08/2007 01:59 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Bob... wish we could have hooked up at Blackwater Falls! I'm sure a hug would have been in order. :)

08/08/2007 02:00 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


I agree with many of the things you say about points.  I do think that a Realtor from 10 states away may pick a person with a highER level of points, but you are right, not necessarily the highEST!

08/08/2007 03:22 AM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


Sarah and Jeff

Yay, Jeff!!!  I'm thinking all those people who got hugs from Jeff recently should post their Jeff pics here.  Because I know, if you were close enough to Jeff to get a hug -- he took your picture, too!! 

08/08/2007 03:35 AM by Sarah Cooper (Real Estate Shows)


Congratulations on hitting the big 200M.  Welcome to the Gold Star Hall of Fame.  You are right the points do matter, but the relationships and the knowledge we gain is far more important.  I have learned a lot from your blog posts and look forward to the next 200,000.

08/08/2007 04:39 AM by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTOR® (Century 21 Liberty Homes)


Maybe Bob can just individually photo shop our faces over Sarah so we all can "meet" Jeff Turner. 

Jeff, have you worn out your keyboard?  I'm on my second one this year.

08/08/2007 05:15 AM by Chris Elizabeth Griffith ~ Bonita Springs Fl Real Estate (Keller Williams Elite Realty, Bonita Springs, FL)


Jeff - Ok, let's bypass the hug and opt for a firm handshake and pat on the back.  Your contributions continue to be astounding!

08/08/2007 05:22 AM by Jason Sardi, Pennsylvania Mortgage Broker (First Choice Equity Group Inc.)


Thanks for all of the input Jeff. As a relative newbie here, I'm learning that a good 20-30 minutes a day on AR keeps my mind growing in the real estate business. Posts from people like you make it a great investment.

08/08/2007 05:54 AM by Century 21 First Realty


Jeff,

Congratulations on your accomplishment! I'm with you the friendships are what makes this place special. :)

08/08/2007 05:59 AM by Suzanne Sands-Somerset, MA Real Estate (Century 21 Associates Realty)


Way to go Jeff, your contribution here is priceless. I remember when you first joined and I knew right then you were a gentleman and a scholar.  We love your Real Estate Shows and we love reading  your posts. Keep up the great work. 

08/08/2007 06:12 AM by Jay McGillicuddy~Real Estate Broker (Prudential Verani Realty)


Congrats Jeff...please join the gold..I just passed 100K myself.

08/08/2007 06:41 AM by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (RE/MAX Premier Associates)


Jeff congratulations!!! It does not surprise me in the least that you have nothing but good relationships to show for your 200,000 points. You are the model of good behavior in the blogosphere. Or, as my mom used to say, "what's not to like?"  When you see something nasty, you don't comment. When you see something good, you heap praise.

Your approach should be part of the "Welcome to Active Rain" package that all newbies get :)

Congrats again!!!

08/08/2007 07:46 AM by Mary Pope-Handy, ABR, CRS, ePRO, SRES (Keller Williams Realty)


Jeff, congratulations on the points but even mmore on the relationships and friends made along the way.  YEO all the way.....  I like Chris' idea.  Bob??

08/08/2007 07:50 AM by Palmetto Bay | Redland Real Estate | Maggie Dokic (EWM Realtors)


(I keep checking back to see if Bob was running with that, too!)  LOL!

08/08/2007 08:14 AM by Sarah Cooper (Real Estate Shows)


{SVW Hubba}...

I am laughing about that banter between you and Ardell. Throne room indeed. LOL. As I type this Blog Boy (Broker Bryant) is out shopping for a crown just for you :)

Okay...On a more serious note. (Or not) I am with you on the points. I have to be one of the few members that could care less. I mean please, points have no redeemable value at the mall :)

The relationship I have with you and so many other members go way beyond points. I wish more of the members understood where the true value lies. It ain't in a point. Or is it? Now I've gone and gotten myself all confused and desperately need a hug. LOL.

TLW...ROAR!

08/08/2007 08:25 AM by "The Lovely Wife"...Broker Bryant's Wife... (Co-Owner Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.)


Hey Jeff, Welcome to the 200,000 club!! And to think I remember when you were just a wee blogger. Now excuse while I get back on my throne. 

08/08/2007 08:31 AM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Jeff - Congratulation on the milestone.  We certainly appreciate the fact that you are part of this network and I think you have touch each and everyone of us by your informative and inspiring posts.  You are the type of person who can easily energize a group.

08/08/2007 08:41 AM by Jennifer Fivelsdal, Rhinebeck NY (Keller Williams Realty)


Jeff:  This post made a difference as I continue to create my experience as a new blogger.  It is amaziing that you just really started here in 2007.  I followed your links and read your bloodhoundblog and that was really great.  I read most of your posts and I learn something new every time--they are such a contribution and that makes who you are and definitely not the points.  Thanks.

08/08/2007 09:05 AM by Cathy Tishhouse Royal Oak and Birmingham Real Estate (RE/MAX Showcase Homes)


200,000 points - I interrupt this to mean you care for the community.  For this I as a member of the community thank you.  I know I have been reading your blogs for quite awhile now and look forward to your continued care of the community.
Thank you.

08/08/2007 09:56 AM by Bob Force (REALTOR®) Silver Spring Md. (Weichert Realtors® - Aspen Hill/Leisure World)


Jeff, couldn't have said it better. I love activerain for the relationships I have here. Amazing isn't it ? Oh, congratulations, I enjoy your posts and realestateshows. com

I have learned tons from you.

08/08/2007 10:03 AM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor, Michigan)


Jeff,

Thank you for the insight, sometimes I think the points add a sort of video game flair to online networking.

I always enjoy your posts. 

08/08/2007 10:29 AM by Gabe Swinney Asheville New Urbanism (Breakaway Realty)


Jeff, you make some great POINTS (pun intended).  I've only been a member for about a week now, but I've already made personal connections with people, engaged in phone conversations and planned a couple of meetings.  Ironically, this post is bound to keep your points rolling, but you deserve it.  Active Rain is already becoming a large part of my plans for the future, and my only regret is that I didn't find it sooner.  Oh well, "good things come to those who wait."  While I can't say that I don't keep an eye on my point total, I'm much more interested in having a voice and the respect of my peers for what I bring to the table.  Thanks for your post.

08/08/2007 10:31 AM by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (RE/MAX Best)


Jeff-  Congratulations on your milestone!  It truly indicates an enormous amount of effort and time invested.  I love that you recognize that the only people saying that points don't matter are the ones with the points!  Of course there are more important things at play, as you've mentioned.  But points do stand for something.

08/08/2007 10:42 AM by Chico CA Real Estate by Sandi Bauman, Chico CA Realtor (Chico Homes Real Estate)


 Rocky & Mana

Jeff, Congratulations. I don't have a close picture and a hug from you , but I have one with Rocky to share. Sarah, I think that counts!!!

 

08/08/2007 10:56 AM by Camarillo CA Real Estate Agent/ Mana Tulberg (Beach View Real Estate)


congratulations...it would take one year and 14 weeks at current level of interaction for us to match that!!! Well done!

08/08/2007 11:02 AM by British Homes Group


Jeff, congrats on such a huge milestone! Your so right about the points, I think it's funny you confused TLW :)

08/08/2007 11:23 AM by Lysa Napolitano, Call Coordinator ~ Century 21 Sundance (Century 21 Sundance)


Mariana and Jeff

Congratulations Jeff! You are right: Pioints DO matter to a "point" - but they are not the Be All End All. I cannot even BEGIN to count all the blessings that AR has given me in the form of new friends.

08/08/2007 11:44 AM by Mariana Wagner ~ Colorado Springs REALTOR® (Wagner iTeam -Keller Williams Clients' Choice)


Good post.   The way I view it, the points are simply a byproduct of our relationship and referral building activities.  The points are nice, but they aren't really the main...............point.

08/08/2007 12:04 PM by SETH CALLEN (OKLAHOMA INSURANCE SOLUTIONS)


Jeff - We are the real beneficiary of your 200,000 points! Keep posting......

08/08/2007 01:53 PM by Indianapolis Real Estate | Paula Henry (ReMax Excel)


Congratulations Jeff! Yeah- after a while the main thing is the wealth of info and great people you get to meet on AR! Points do matter though.

08/08/2007 02:01 PM by Paul Viau , Guaranty GMAC ,Halifax, N.S. (Guaranty GMAC Halifax)


Jeff - Congrats - I treasure all the new friendships here on AR - you say it so much better than most. 

circle of friend

08/08/2007 02:07 PM by Clearwater Real Estate Clearwater Beach Condos & Homes for Sale- Cyndee Haydon (Belloise Realty)


Chris Griffith wrote a post 2 months ago about the ActiveRain Frequent Points Rewards Program... 200,000 points can get you a pair of AR Flip Flops, a white Fruit of the Loom tank top with an AR Iron-on, , gently used AR toothbrush!!

08/08/2007 02:20 PM by Boca Raton Florida & Boynton Beach Florida Mortgage Loans


Kind of the "Happy Cow" philosophy...   Congratualtions Jeff Turner

Congratualtions.

08/08/2007 03:00 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (The Michigan Group - Livingston)


Congrats Jeff - on the 200,000 points of friends and groupies you've accumulated here in the Rain!!!

Here's that "gently used toothbrush" I believe you've won......
                                 cat

Ann

08/08/2007 04:37 PM by Portsmouth NH Real Estate ~ Ann Cummings (RE/MAX Coast to Coast - Portsmouth New Hampshire)


Yep that's right, you are a SAP......... and you know what... that's what makes you REAL.... (pardon my using cap's captain but I wanted the emphaSIS on the proper SyLABle)  ok I'm being silly, but you really aren't a sap.... I think the meaning of SAP should be someone who is REAL and not untouchable... someone feeling.... oh hell, you know what I'm trying to say.... I had my hair cut so short today because of the hot weather I can't think!....  We all luv ya and that's all that matters...... you SAP. :) ;) :P

08/08/2007 04:49 PM by Kansas City North Real Estate :: Fran White 816-682-3897 (North Kansas City Real Estate, Reece and Nichols Residential)


Getting a hug from you in San Francisco was priceless, not pointless. It was good to see you, old friend.

08/08/2007 04:49 PM by Sharon Simms St Pete Florida CRS CIPS CLHMS (RE/MAX Metro)


Hi Jeff, It wasn't until I met fellow Active Rainers in Chicago that I truly understood the power of this network.  I've been to countless professional forums and people don't usually stand around for long to talk with others they know....not to speak of the hours that seemed to fly by with people I had just met in person for the first time.  I got it then....this is what happens with clients too.  Congratulations on Accomplishing way more than 200,000 points could ever deliver!!

08/08/2007 05:45 PM by Lola Audu~ Audu Real Estate~ Grand Rapids, MI Broker


Congratulations on the landmark!  TLW told me the points could be used at Neimans.....

08/08/2007 06:58 PM by Chris Tesch College Station, Texas Real Estate (RE/MAX Bryan College Station)


If TLW knows how these points can be used at Neimans she'd better cough up the secret or we'll have to throw HER in the lake. :P :) ;)

08/08/2007 07:15 PM by Kansas City North Real Estate :: Fran White 816-682-3897 (North Kansas City Real Estate, Reece and Nichols Residential)


A huge accomplishment Jeff.  I haven't been here that long but already I see that the points are just a small part of the AR experience.  I have learned so much.  Thanks for sharing your knowledge here with all of your posts!!  (and thanks for stopping by my outside blog!)  I am testing out realestateshows right now and love it!  I just need time to play with it!  I hope to finish my first tonight!  It is very easy to use.

08/08/2007 08:23 PM by Ginger Wilcox, Marin County Realtor (Pacific Union, Marin Real Estate)


Hi Jeff-

Geeze - what a show-off....

Sincerely, congratulations and keep it up!

You bring a ton of important info here and it helps a lot of people.

Thanks!

08/08/2007 08:29 PM by Palm Beach Real Estate and Loans - Marc Blasi (Leibowitz Realty / Knightlines Mortgage)


Congratulations on the 200,000 points!!! I have just started here, and already I have read so many of your blogs. Thanks for all the great information you provide!

08/08/2007 09:15 PM by Erica Wallace (Hallmark Sotheby's International Realty)


Jeff, thanks for the reality check.  Loved your post, so true what you have said here!

08/08/2007 11:29 PM by David L. Britt, MBA (The Heritage Real Estate Team)


Everyone... reading through your comments simply confirms my thoughts in the post. Thank you all for making this a worthwhile experience. 

08/09/2007 12:20 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Jeff, even though points are not as important to you now as before, CONGRATULATIONS on the great achievement of 200,000 points.  That's a lot of blogging and commenting!  Many, many hugs from me to you! 

08/09/2007 01:14 AM by Pasadena CA Real Estate - Irina Netchaev (Keller Williams International Realty)


:) I'll take an IOU on that hug until 8/22 if you don't mind.

08/09/2007 01:31 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Agreed!   It's sort an obsession (for some benounce reason really) and then you just let all of that go by the way side and you are here because you want be....

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08/09/2007 01:57 AM by Tampa Real Estate | Florida Relocation | Land | LakeFront Home | Katrina Madewell (Charles Rutenberg Rlty- More than 3,500 agents(813) 235-9889)


Jeff - Congrats!  I can tell your post is authentic and heartfelt, when I sent you an email about the points, you didn't even know about it.  That was sincere and impressive!  Your post makes me want to just reach out and give ya a big hug!!  LOL!   Nah, I better not, don't want you and others to get the wrong impression!  LOL! :-) Points are cool, but you're cooler!!  Great Post, couldn't be any better for your 200,000 point celebration post.

                                                                   

08/09/2007 02:12 AM by Brad Andersohn ~ Community Builder (ActiveRain)


Jeff

Yo da Man!  You can travel throughout the states and have someone to visit!  Very Cool beans.

You have taught me a lot and I appreciate it and my edumacation is why I continue to visit your blog.

  

08/09/2007 08:00 AM by Aziz Abdur-Raoof,Howard Co. Real Estate Scoop (RE/MAX Rewards)


Jeff, I only hope I can get past wanting points. I see how shallow it really is. That said I still want to congratulate you on your accomplishment. maybe I'll have to move to Nevada so that I can get some open space in the points race. 200,000. Wow!

And Brad Andersohn was just showing off. Maybe someday I'll be able to hob nob with you guys.

Bill Roberts

08/09/2007 12:42 PM by Bill Roberts - "Baby Boomer" Retirement Planning (Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate)


Jeff

Holy macarel 200k in points thats a lot of blogging. But your right the friendships developed here are the best.

Rick & Ines the puppy is so cute, I just wish I could hugg him.

08/10/2007 01:04 AM by Gary J Rocks (Sussex County Real Estate)


"The only folks who say points don't matter on ActiveRain are those who already have a lot of points." Points don't matter, congratulations on the 200,000 points!

08/10/2007 03:25 AM by Maureen McCabe - Central Ohio real estate (Real Living HER)


Wow, the only people from AR that I have ever met face to face are people I already knew!  I gotta get out of the house more often!  We should do a BBQ at John's house...

08/10/2007 12:13 PM by Classic Property Management of the Antelope Valley - Jonathan Mitchell (Classic Property Management)


Maureen... hilarious! :)

Jonathon... lets! 

08/10/2007 01:10 PM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Jeff,

Congratulation.  You have totally earned it.  You have educated and entertained all of us!  I love to learn and that is why I love your blog so much!!  Thanks for being YOU!!!

08/10/2007 09:04 PM by Central Texas Real Estate Jeannette Morrison (Keller williams Realty)


Jeff: Congratulations! You and people like you are responsible for making activerain the positive resource we all need and benefit from daily. Thanks for setting the bar higher and being such a fine example for everyone. I dub you "Sir Huggable."  You are the perfect example of why it's so important for everyone to fulfill their minimum number of hugs a day...AND why it's even better to exceed that goal! Wishing you the best of relationships, smiles and mega hugs.

08/10/2007 11:33 PM by Linda Bourgault, Loss Mitigation Consultant (Freedom Foreclosure Prevention Services)


Jeannette... thank you!

Linda... it looks like you're getting your daily hug requirement from dolphins! :) 

08/10/2007 11:41 PM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Jeff, it's my 1st few days on AR and I have come across your "brain dump" in many places. I see from the comments that 200,000 points earned you a lot of friends. In my case, ignorance could be a bliss: I did not know that points matter, so I did not worry. Your posts reassures me that I should not. I learned so much in a few days that my to-do list is getting longer by the minute. My laptop moved to my bed...this stuff is contagious. BTW - RealEsateShows is on my to-do list. I subscribed to your blog and hope to learn more from your "brain dumps". Thanks.

08/11/2007 09:16 AM by Faina Sechzer - Princeton, Montgomery, Hopewell, NJ Real Estate Expert (Henderson-Sotheby's International Realty)


Faina... you're on the right track! Thank you for subscribing. I'm going to do my best to make sure it is worth your time.

08/11/2007 10:48 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Jeff, I just came back to read all the comments. You are well loved my friend. And that's a very good thing.

08/11/2007 05:56 PM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Bryant, I could not agree more!

08/11/2007 06:23 PM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Congrats Jeff, your blog is one of my all time favorites and I never fail to learn something VERY useful each and every time!  Congrats for all of the hard work!

08/13/2007 07:06 AM by Janie Coffey, GRI - Equestrian Real Estate (Janie Coffey and Papillon Real Estate, LLC)


Jeff,

I loved your post.

I definitely agree, Quality is much more important than Quantity - But, Quality and Quantity together is a wonderful thing.

Congratulations are reaching a milestone - I look forward to reading more of your blogs.

Sincerely,

Susan Stricklin

08/13/2007 09:25 AM by Susan Stricklin


Janie and Susan... thank you. The comments to this post certainly prove the entire point of the post!

08/13/2007 11:10 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Wow Jeff!!  Your words of wisdom are an inspiration to others.  I'm sorry I missed the AR gatherings where you met so many others. I'm in next time.  Keep up the good work and the profits will come!!

09/09/2007 12:17 AM by Tracy Santrock - Cary NC Real Estate (Fonville Morisey)


Tracy... this place give back more than I give to it, that's a fact. Thanks for stopping by!

09/09/2007 12:19 AM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Wow, almost 300000! I look foward to reading more of your blog entries

04/14/2008 02:09 AM by Neal Barnes, Broker REALTOR®, ABR, CRS, GRI, SRES, SRS. (Neal Barnes, Inc.)


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