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A Big Part of "List"ing is Listening

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Real Estate Sales Representative with Immeubles Deakin Realty

I love it when I hear a non-salesy, common-sensical approach to gaining business.  'Cause I'm not salesy at all.  Never have been, never will be.  I tried to be salesy once, while working in a clothing store to help put myself through university.  I ended up stalking the client who said she didn't want my help throughout the store, pretending to be fixing the clothes on the racks near her.  She knew what I was doing...and ran away.  Then I ran away too.

I'm now a Montreal real estate broker and Montreal home stager, but I'm still not salesy.  And I have no intention of ever being that way.  To me, buying and selling a home is just too much of a life-altering event to be "sold" to.

In my quest to continually learn how to be a better Montreal real estate broker, though, I went to ActiveRain University yesterday and listened to Jared James, a real estate coach, talk about listing presentations.  In real estate school, we were told that listing presentations generally happen this way:

  1. Consumer calls you and says they're thinking about selling their home. You ask them questions about their property and make an appointment to come by and give your listing presentation, including your assessment of the value of the property.
  2. You do research on comparables that have sold in the area, and active listings on the market right now, and prepare your comparative market analysis (CMA).
  3. You show up at their home at the scheduled time, wow them with your listing presentation, and go through the CMA with them.

This has never made sense to me.  How can you do an adequate CMA when you haven't even seen the inside of the home?

Dog with big ears extendedYou don't have to.  And you shouldn't.  And it's not just because you won't have all of the information you need to do a really good CMA.

When you show up to do a listing presentation, the homeowner inevitably takes you through the house, describing the updates that were done, the planned updates they didn't get a chance to do, the gorgeous Corian they installed in the kitchen, the basement wall with the hockey puck scars, the gorgeous wood floors they installed themselves, the garden planted with love 5 years ago, how nice it is to have coffee in the morning on the deck, etc.

And if you let them do this, and then sit down at the table with them with your CMA already completed, you're telling them that all of the things they have just told you do not make one iota of difference to you.  That what they say doesn't matter because all you have to do is pull numbers off of a computer.  Great point, Jared.

This is one of the reasons why, as a Montreal real estate broker and Montreal home stager, I've never sat down with a fully completed CMA on the first visit with a homeowner. 

And it's nice to hear that the way I'm doing it makes sense, even if it's not the way I was taught in school.  Thank you, Jared James.

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Tanya Nouwens

Tanya Nouwens Inc., Montreal Real Estate Broker and Canadian Staging Professional (TM)  www.readysetsold.ca 

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Lisa Moroniak
Keller Williams Realty | Northern Virginia | 703.635.0388 - Leesburg, VA
SFR - Short Sale & Foreclosure Certified

What Paul S said - range of values to open the door for discussion, leave the list price field in the agreement blank for later.  Collaboration makes room for trust to develop :).

Jun 08, 2010 11:16 AM
Renee Thompson
Premier Sotheby's International Realty - Tampa, FL

Listening is a very valuable skill to have. It is very good to listen to learn about the home and the seller's objectives. They probably already have a listing price range in their mind, and it is important to understand why they think what they think. Then when discussing the CMA, you can discuss in great detail what the market agrees with on their assessment, and where some things may need to be adjusted. Great write up.

Jun 08, 2010 11:31 AM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

What a clever title!  Your approach makes perfect sense. I tour the house first, as well.  I come to the presentation with a price range, rather than a specific price.  I agree that it is difficult to price a house, if you have not seen the interior.  Listening is key, if we are to work well with our clients.

Jun 08, 2010 12:40 PM
Ellie McIntire
Ellicott City Clarksville Howard County Maryland Real Estate - Ellicott City, MD
Luxury service in Central Maryland

We have an agent in my office that has the same sales pitch for every listing presentation. He basically bullies the seller into listening to his canned pitch and then steps outside for a cigarette while they decide whether to list with him or not. He proudly tells all the new agents this. I wonder why he is wearing cheap suits these days!!!!

Jun 08, 2010 01:31 PM
Shelley Rowton
Move To Realty - Austin, TX
ABR, RSPS - (512) 507-5779 MoveToRealty of Austin

Creepy, Ellie!  I wish that two-visit listing appointments were possible all the time, but the fact is that they aren't.  Most sellers are interviewing one or two agents and want to get it done right then.  If you aren't ready, you lose.  Luckily, I do over 1,000 valuations every year, so it's pretty easy for me to make the necessary adjustments on the fly.  The key to success in real estate is being able to listen and converse intelligently.  If you are working off a script and you get thrown a curve ball, you just end up looking less than knowledgeable and professional. 

Great approach, Tanya!  I am sure your sellers know that you are listening thoughtfully!

Jun 08, 2010 02:19 PM
Cheryl Ritchie
RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com - Huntingtown, MD
Southern Maryland 301-980-7566

I seem to do a much better job with the two step approach. It gives the Seller time to prepare some of the checklist items also.

Jun 08, 2010 02:27 PM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

I missed this presentation, and sorry I did.  It definitely makes sense to look at the house and come back with a CMA comparing apples to apples.  It makes the seller's home more personal and not just a number.  And yes, listening is an all important part of the sales process.  I, like you am not salesy, but we are sales people. We just don't need to come across in a typical fashion.

Jun 08, 2010 02:29 PM
Kent Dills
Broker, Dills Real Estate - Bellingham, WA
Real Estate 817-495-8028, Bellingham, Washington

Tanya, I think your observations about Jared James' presentation is spot on.  His presentation was TOP RATE and his argument for a 2 step listing presentation was very logical.  He's obviously had great success with it too if he sold 150 homes in a year!  

Though I agree with some of your commentors, there is a time and place for the one step listing, and one should always be prepared to shift to it if need be (e.g., a "come list me"), the two step is probably more appropriate for my personality style a much higher % of the time! 

Jun 08, 2010 02:51 PM
Loreena and Michael Yeo
3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Prosper TX Real Estate Co. - Prosper, TX
Real Estate Agents

When I first heard about the 2-step CMA came from Barbara Todaro. She's helping me revamp my listing appointment. And of course, Broker Bryant taught me that a listing presentation is a listening presentation.

I can see how a 2-step CMA is very much an advantage to an agent. Let's put it this way, it's another opportunity of impressing the potential client.

Jun 08, 2010 03:49 PM
Kymberly Caldwell-Muniz
(909) 973-0410 - Fontana, CA
TCR Group Keller Williams Realty Rancho Cucamonga

I will prepare a CMA, listen, listen and listen to the potential client. I like to see the numbers that the seller expects before I give them the true numbers. I will have the range of where the market is and make adjustments to the CMA after viewing the inside of the home. The majority of my listings are the one step presentation. 

Jun 08, 2010 03:55 PM
Robin Dampier REALTOR®
Coldwell Banker King - Hendersonville, NC
Hendersonville & Western NC Real Estate Source

We generally do a one step listing and have a CMA prepared with ranges which we will adjust at the table with the sellers after we have previewed the home and are discussing the CMA.  I think it can also be useful at times to take the sellers to look at some of the competition in the price range they want to list at to compare against theirs.

Sue of Robin and Sue

Jun 08, 2010 04:03 PM
Leslie Ebersole
Swanepoel T3 Group - Saint Charles, IL
I help brokers build businesses they love.

Of course a 2 step might allow you to be more precise if you're not sure, but if you know a particular market very well it is entirely possible to do a great job on a one-step. There are times when a two step is a crutch for the agent who wants the chance to come back and dazzle with a "customized presentation", which can be nothing more than a regurgitation of what the seller said on the first visit.

Jun 08, 2010 04:53 PM
Aaron Vaughn 830-358-0455
Conifer Builders LLC - Canyon Lake, TX

Hello: I think a two-part listing process is great for traditional sales, but not necessarily for short sales or other distressed properties/clients.

Jun 08, 2010 05:33 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

I do love a two part listing process.  It allows you to really understand the client's needs and what they must do to get their house sold.  However, sometimes client's won't allow you that luxury. No matter which approach you take, you have to LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN.  Great post!

Jun 09, 2010 12:27 AM
Tanya Nouwens
Immeubles Deakin Realty - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Real Estate Broker & Stager

Thank you all for your comments so far.  Clearly for some of you, the one-step process works.  I know it doesn't for me, neither as a consumer nor as a real estate broker.  I'm just not comfortable with it, and probably part of that has to do with my background in research and my rookie-ness in real estate.  Confidence is key, and given my personality, I need to do research and gather all of the facts before I feel really confident.

Market area also seems to be a big factor.  In some areas, it appears that consumers expect the one-step approach.

One of Jared James' main points, however, was that we should be looking for ways to set ourselves apart from everyone else, where it makes sense to do so.  Sometimes this means doing things differently.  I think that's a great point, and one that I intend to bring with me as I start my second year in real estate.  

Jun 09, 2010 01:53 AM
Esko Kiuru
Bethesda, MD

Tanya,

If we really want to know what the client is looking for we have to listen first and after that start formulating a plan on how to help him fulfill his needs. This goes for selling a home as well as applying for a mortgage.

Jun 09, 2010 04:42 AM
Lesley Wagstaff
Re/Max Results Realty in Vancouver, BC - Coquitlam, BC
For Real Estate and Mortgages

I don't really consider myself salesy either, but I must confess I do show up with a CMA already done.  I usually have asked a client a lot of information over the phone, and I find a lot of the time the client does already have an idea of the price.  I will say, I have had a couple of times, where after walking through the house, I have straight out told the people that their house is not at like I thought and gone back and done a new CMA.  I never put a listing price on my CMA, so it does give me the flexiblity to come up with a number on the spot.  Interesting to think about though.  Thanks for the post.

Jun 09, 2010 12:11 PM
Team Honeycutt
Allen Tate - Concord, NC

You make some great points Tanya.  Hope you find continued success in your second year.

Jun 10, 2010 02:38 PM
Jared James
Jared James Enterprises - Milford, CT

Hi Everyone! I love the dialogue back and forth and Tanya, GREAT TITLE! I am glad many of you enjoyed the Webinar and hope that you join us on our next where we are going to be discussing the role the database plays in your business and what your database should be able to do for you. You can sign up for email updates at www.jaredjamestoday.com if you want to hear about additional Webinars I do on a regular basis. Keep the conversation going! Have a great weekend!

Jun 11, 2010 02:30 PM
Terry Chenier
Homelife Glenayre Realty - Mission, BC

Tanya,

I agree with Bryant. I do the CMA based on SF, location, style etc. and adjust when I get there; up OR down.

Jun 12, 2010 05:11 PM