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Real Estate Appraiser with North Country Appraisal Services

Watching financial advice segment on Today Show this morning, someone called in pondering walking away from an underwater property and the effects on his credit.  I fully realize times have changed and many large lenders have been exposed for abuses which add to the rationalization of walking away from a mortgage; but I also wonder how this situation would have been handled 50 years ago by The Greatest Generation as my parents were described.  The mortgage was a commitment which was not just part of a financial portfolio.  When they shook the hand of the banker, there was little doubt that the payments would be made regardless of the economy or difficulties.  Lenders have changed as has the mortgage process and, as an appraiser, I have been subject to lender arrogance and abuses as much as anyone and long before it became publicly known. 

But the question remains, how would The Greatest Generation have handled the difficulty of an underwater mortgage.  I would believe they would have worked second and third jobs to keep their word.  Walking away would not be an option.

David Mescon
DAVID B. MESCON REAL ESTATE APPRAISER AND CONSULTANT - Kailua-Kona, HI

Richard, I'm not advocating abdication of responsibility, however, in all fairness, we must remember that back in those days, things were radically different.  First, we had real loan officers, with real lending authority, not salespeople who call themselves loan officers.  Next, that lender was, almost always, selling a fair product at a fair price - they acted with integrity.  Finally, it would behoove us to remember that there have been other periods of time in our country's history marked with high default rates.

I'm not arguing that as a group our work ethic has not decayed considerably through the years - it obviously has.  Fifty years ago, however, our economy was flush, and a person could work three jobs, because there were jobs to be found.  Many people today are unable to find even one job, let alone three.  The cost of living has outpaced peoples' incomes for some time.  For many years, one man, working one blue-collar job could support an entire family, including a mortgage payment.  Today, that is not usually the case.

In the old-school-small-businessman model it was perfectly acceptable for a family business to start-up, stabilize and be run for multiple generations at that relatively stable level.  The new way of doing business, it seems, is to demand ever-increasing profits.  Making a good return on an investment of capital and labor is no longer considered acceptable.  We can call it anything we want, but the sad fact is that as a society, we have allowed greed to dictate our behavior.  Unfortunately, this model will eventually prove itself to be unsustainable, as we are now beginning to see.  What do you think will happen to Wal Mart's pricing model if there is no longer any competition?

The borrowing public has been fleeced by the lending industry for years, (as have we).  The industry has reached a tipping point.  People are now revolting in the only way they know how.  It will get worse before it gets better.

Jun 11, 2010 08:23 AM
Richard Glesser
North Country Appraisal Services - Gaylord, MI

David - You show great insight and thought-derived conclusions as to the present state of the economy overall.  I agree with all your points.  As I stated, the problem has only been fueled but lender abuse, which has been experienced firsthand by any appraiser in the business over 10 years, but is now being recognized by the public as a whole.  Other changes of note are that, in days gone by, the lender was lending money of his institution and was held responsible for good stewardship of the funds.  If difficulties arose, it was in his best interest to work out a suitable arrangement.  Today, the person originating the loan has no control after it's closed.

So far as WalMart, I'm sort of hot and cold on that issue.  I must applaud the company for stopping the steady inflation which ran from the 1950's forward.  I can buy a pair of jeans for the same price I paid when I got out of college 35 years ago.  In some terms, WalMart forced this country to recognize that it's now a world economy, just as the Japanese automakers did to the Detroit empire.  Small local businesses must innovate and think outside the box to remain in business since they can no longer compete on price alone.  This drives better customer service, creativity, and innovation to compete.  However, I do strongly support the WalMart competition which, in our area, comes from Meijer and, to a lessor extent Target.  This is what keeps WalMart in check.  I dislike the waving American flag while selling products produced in developing countries under near slave-like conditions.  But what probably irratates me most about WalMart is their constant promotion of Roll-backs while they quietly increase prices on many items.  I would relish the day that they also post "Stick It to You" signs on the products they've increased.  Many increases, while seemingly amounting to pocket change, are percentage-wise huge ranging from 15% to over 100%, commonly about 35%.  I know I would not stay in business if I raised my fee from $400 to $540 in one increment without just rationalization.

The future is dependant upon insightful watchdogs like yourself who refuse to follow like lambs to slaughter.

Jun 12, 2010 05:23 AM
Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

Aneother thing to think about is, way back in the 50's and 60's we did not have all the safety nets in place. There was less incentive to live on the dole, so to speak.

The draft was sucking up a lot of the excess workers, and we were fighting wars in Korea and then in Vietnam.

Having children outside of marriage was less acceptable, so there were fewer of these.

The global economy had not yet arrived at our doorstep, so mom and pop businesses had a much better chance of survivial. We still had the dominant economy in the world, and we were helping many of the future WalMart  product prodcucing countries to develop their own systems.

This help we gave to others was not all that unselfish tho, because that help was given in the form of credits and subsidies, not cash, that were tied to those countries' buying their machinery and raw materials from us. That gave us a way to dump obsolete machinery and increase out exports.

There were foreclosures back then too, but housing prices were stable or increasing and it was usually possible to get out from under a mortgage without too much damage to the lender or the homeowner. It was not until the government decided that "everyone should be a homeowner" that we started having problems.

June Cleaver just did not have today's kinds of problems.

 

Jan 22, 2011 01:04 AM