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   I am seeing more properties being offered as subject to lender approval. The difficulty with some of these is when there are multiple lien holders involved. The seller has to get all the parties that hold liens on the property involved to agree to payoffs. Sometimes this can be difficult as the first mortgage holder being the  strongest position may not want to discount their payoff very much.

  What it all comes down to is the money.You need to get an attorney involved. Sometimes the primary lender will assist you with this. If you are trying to get the additional lien-holders to agree it might make sense to let them know the financial status of your seller with permission of course. If the junior lien-holders know that they are going to get nothing and the property is headed for foreclosure they may agree to accepting a lesser amount than what is owed.

 

Just try to find in advance what you are going to run into with the sale of the home you don't want to waste the time and energy of your client and your efforts and marketing money as well. Remember not all home owners can go with a short sale even though they would like to.  

 

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7 Comments on Short Sales with mutiple liens

Good advice, James.  Sometimes getting all the lien holders to agree is like trying to herd cats!

08/09/2007 06:48 AM by Brian Schulman - Your Lancaster County, PA Real Estate Professional (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals)


Good advice.  Here in Florida we are seeing a rush of short sales.

08/09/2007 06:59 AM by Bradenton Florida Real Estate - Dan Forbes (Sarasota Metro Properties)


James

You raise a very valid point.  More often then not, homeowners have equity lines and other subordinate mortgages.  Additionally, they may have judgment liens due to unpaid credit card debt, etc.  All lien holders have to agree to concessions.  The negotiations are difficult and time consuming.

As a title company owner, I worked as an REO outsource for years.  I soon learned that short sales were more work than they're worth.  I was always asked to reduce my fees, as were the real estate agents.   Not a good situation.

08/09/2007 07:00 AM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


What language do people use in the contract to legally cover the seller and themselves if the lienholders will not agree to let the property go short?

08/09/2007 07:28 AM by James Gordon REALTOR® PBD SRS (Sibcy Cline Realtors®)


Most of the time the first lien holder won't do anything, but the 2nd, and 3rd definitely will as they usually would be wiped out and get no money if it goes through the foreclosure process.  I do not agree with you on getting an attorney involved.  The seller just has to request a short sale package from all lien holders, and fill out paperwork, and than wait.  I guess if it gets complicated than absolutely, but typically a good title company will assist you with their attorneys, and you would not have as much expense.

08/09/2007 08:03 AM by Boca Raton Florida Homes for Sale David Serle (RE/MAX Services)


David what I have seen in the past is that the first lien-holder may be willing to give a 1000.00 concession to show some type of good faith. It is normally someone that holds a junior lien that holds the process up but the title company does not represent the seller and I believe they need an advocate on their side.

08/09/2007 08:44 AM by James Gordon REALTOR® PBD SRS (Sibcy Cline Realtors®)


Bad advice James. The last thing you want to do is get an attorney involved. They are trouble makers not problem solvers. They are ignorant about short sales, it's a financial negotiation not a legal matter. Calling in a lawyer is like feeding a child lead based paint.

09/28/2008 01:38 PM by Harold


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