I thought I'd follow up my post from yesterday with an explanation of some of what is happening in the credit markets during the last two days.  Some people may have seen some headlines about the federal reserve injecting billions of dollars into the banking system along with ECB (European Central Bank), BOJ (Bank of Japan), etc.  More than likely this will get a lot more press in the main stream media this weekend, as the events are unfolding fairly rapidly.

To make a long, very complex story short...

Over the last several months the secondary market for mortgage backed securities (MBS) has deteriorated substantially.  Due to increasing default rates on mortgages it turns out these securities are worth much less than people thought.  For example many "AAA" rated MBS securities (the ones that are never supposed to have to have defaults) are going for 92 cents on the dollar.  This basically wipes out several years worth of interest for the investor.  Lower rated MBS are sometimes even turning out to be worthless due to the number of defaults.

Banks and other investors in the MBS's are now running into trouble because of what they thought were fairly secure assets have been loosing value rapidly.  Many times these investors have a significant amount of leverage which further compounds the losses.  For banks that must maintain a certain ratio of assets to the amount of money they loan out, a falling asset value can result in liquidity issues.  They can't lend out any more money.

What has happened in the last two days...

The overnight lending rate set by the FED, the one everybody pays attention to is 5.25%. This is the rate at which banks are SUPPOSED to lend to each other overnight to keep things running smoothly.  But yesterday banks started lending to each other significantly over this rate, it was up to 5.6% during the day and even went over 6% last night. Basically banks are pricing in the risk that someone large might go bankrupt within the next 24 hours.  Rumor is that a very large German bank which invested in MBS's is on the ropes and there are many people that believe one or more large US investment banks may also be in trouble.

This is the type of thing that can destabilize an global banking system, so the FED and various central banks have stepped in to provide temporary relief. The ECB injected around $80 billion dollars into their banking system yesterday and another $83 billion this morning.  The FED injected $16 billion yesterday and then made three more drops of liquidity today.  The BOJ did the same along with the Australian and Canadian central banks. 

This is not a bailout as it has to be paid back rather quickly, most of it will have to be paid back Monday. What it does do is it provides banks a chance to stabilize themselves, formalize a plan, and unwind investment positions in an orderly manner to free up funds. This is one of the main tasks of central banks, to keep the banking systems stable with added liquidity as needed.  The same types of liquidity injections took place in the LTCM hedge fund crisis back in 1998, in 2000 and after 9/11.  The size and how coordinated this action is by central banks indicates there is some fairly large disruptions going on underneath the surface, probably due to deteriorating value of mortgage backed securities.

So what's this mean for real estate and lending...

Pretty clearly this is going to speed up the tightening of lending standards and the availability of money to lend (higher mortgage rates).  The Fed, through their action is trying to make sure the machine doesn't totally seize up, but all of these events point to a significant repricing of risk.

Would a Fed rate cut help...

At this point a rate cut by the Fed would probably be much more damaging to the system than benificial.  It would signal a reduced confidence and possibly create a panic in the market.  Due to repricing of risk, mortgage rates and lending standards are beginning to tighten regardless of the fund rate or treasury prices and this is likely continue.  By damaging confidence in the markets this tightening would accelerate and you might end up seeing mortgage rates climb at the same time the fund rate drops.

 

22 Comments on What's going on in the credit markets?

AUG
10
2007
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Matt,

That was a great assessment of the situation.  I think there are going to be a whole lot of people working over the weekend on this mess.  The lending industry as we all know it has changed significantly, and unlike some people think, banks won't go back to business as usual when it comes to sup-prime and Alt-A loans.

We're having a major meeting with one of our biggest investor clients Monday morning, and they are not going to like our new lending guidelines.  FULL DOC, 6 MONTHS RESERVES (VALID ACCOUNTS),680 minimum for now on all deals, and atleast 5% down on any purchases.

But the influx of capital could not have come any sooner.  I'm afraid the Fed may need to keep pumping it in from time to time, because the bad news isn't even close to over yet.  Just hope we don't have another week like this one.

I've never had such a tough week in my 12 years of mortgage lending!

Hope your doing well in your market,

Karl in Utah!! 

5:57pm • #1
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I believe that Fannie Mae is trying to provide more liqudity to the market to by increasing their holdings significantly.

Raising the conforming loan limits and making them attraactive to Fannie and Freddie would help tremendously.  I'd like to see them raise the conforming to, mmmmm, $550,000?????

Fannie/Freddie could provide a lot of liqudity for refinancing.  That wouldn't help the real estate market but would help the mortgage industry.

IMO, this thing is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. 

IMO, this all started with 9/11.  A fact few in positions of influenc rarely mention.

6:03pm • #2
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The administration through both Bush and Paulson have made it pretty clear they will not support raising the amount of holdings Fannie and Freddie can have until they get their books in order (ain't gonna happen anytime soon).  If it did happen it would only provide temperary relief but would not solve the root problem.  I fear there are too many participants in the market crossing their fingers and hoping it will happen.  In the end, like the airline industry it will probably end in some type of bail out but not without the pain first.

Yes, since the liquidity is only overnight loans the FED will almost certainly do the same thing on Monday, on Tuesday, etc but each time with slightly more money.  It's not going to prevent the bad stuff from happening, it's just going to spread it out over time to give the markets time to adjust.

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I lost my comment post when I went back and rated it and flagged this for featuring. People need to know that you can't rate it and flag a post once you have written the comment content. No way to save the content either by highlighting it and copy.

The genesis of my comments is that we could expect the Federal Reserve Board to consider in the next week or so a lowering of the overnight rates by a .25%. It is my prediction they will.

Your post was very well written and composed and covered the real essence of the news yesterday. Well done. Superb

6:17pm • #4
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Well done Matt. These are very interesting times we have right now. I know both my cloisngs for today got delayed. I'm hoping we'll be able to get them done next week but we'll see. Luckily one's with Citi Mortgage and the other is a small independent who's keeping it all in house.

William, you should hit the "preview" icon prior to posting your comments. You CAN copy from there or just leave it on your tool bar in case your comment doesn't take.

6:39pm • #5
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I heard today to FNMA, was denied an increase in their mortgage pool size?, is this correct and how does that play out.

 

6:52pm • #6
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I haven't seen an official response yet about Freddie or Fannie being allowed to increase their pool size.  But from the posturing of officials I think the chances of the increase being approved are slim-to-none right now.  I think there's a few big lenders out there down on one knee begging for it to happen though, so they can offload some loans from their balance sheets.

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Hi Bryant, See, you are a great teacher and I am still open to learning, I never thought of that. Just when a person needs to learn a lesson the Teacher appears. Many Thanks.

I shall never make that error again, Yeah!  Sorry Matt but I am most appreciative that Bryant helped me out  here.

7:32pm • #8
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Gary, I guess there was official word today.

"The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight said late Friday it would not allow Fannie Mae to increase its portfolio beyond the $727 billion limit created in May 2006, despite arguments by the company and senior Democrats that a change would provide much-needed stability to the shaky mortgage market."

This is more than likely to get MUCH worse before it gets better...

7:47pm • #9
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Matt, Thanks for an insightful analysis of this situation.  I've not been able to sit down and get the news today, so I really appreciated your commentary and analysis.  You're a man of many talents! :)
9:30pm • #10
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11
2007
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Matt

Well Done.  The default on mortgages is impacting every community and every neighborhood. As you pointed out the injection is only temporary (overnight) and will not cure the problem. There are simply too many loans being defaulted on, more bank owned Real Estate now than in any time in recent history.

Back in 1980 interest rates skyrocketed to 16-18% on mortgage loans. A three year adjustable at 12.75% was considered a "good deal".  Conversely the cost of homes and building materials was lower at that time.  5-10% down was the norm.

Fast forward 25 years later, and we have inflated prices on gas, building materials, and home costs. It would follow that mortgage rates are likely to climb into double digits once again unless the market stabilizes.  The next few days will be interesting indeed.

How long can they borrow from Peter to pay Paul?

5:28am • #11
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I agree with Lenn about raising conforming loan limits. In a state like NY a conforming loan is a joke. I'm also not so sure that the Fed injecting billions in the banking system helps the 14 million people that bought homes between 2005-2007 but it sure helps hedge fund traders on Wall Street.
10:12am • #12
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Thank you for the well-defined explanation of the rip tide events in the mortgage industry.  It was very informative and I learned a great deal from it.
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Allison & Mitchell, yes exactly correct this will do nother at all to solve the underlying problem, it just buys a little bit more time to figure out a solution.  The problem is there is a difference between being illiquid and insolvent.  Being illiquid means you actually have the money it's just tied up at the moment, so you just need some time to free it up.  Insolvent means you don't really have the money.  In the case of banks and others holding large amounts of MBS's they've gone down in value enough they may be insolvent so the injection of money by the Fed only delays things a bit. 

This may be very similar to the S&L crisis from the 80's but the amount of money involved is significantly larger.

11:34am • #14
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You did an excellent job in explaining the critical mess the lending industry is in right now.  It definitely doesn't look good.  But we have to stay informed, so your post was most helpful.
11:35am • #15
Great Post, Thanks for a easy to understand explanation of this mess. Keep them coming :)
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Matt,

I'm guessing, but I am pretty new to real estate, that if interest rates continue to rise and loans become even more difficult to get, we will continue to lose buyers and our buyers market will become what...a super buyers market with no buyers? 

What should we be doing to better assist our clients?  How can we feel comforted that a lender we recommend is going to be in business at the close of escrow? 

I guess what I'm saying, ineloquently, is how does all this information apply to the agents in the trenches, to the everyday agent trying to pay tuition and a make their house payment?

5:47pm • #17
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12
2007
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Matt,

Nice explanation of the situation in English. What part of the domino effect do you think we are in?

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nice summary... but, didn't you hear, there are miners missing, an old bridge collapsed and d'Mervster ist kaput  ... the US is a funny place.
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Thanks for the information. Also find your POV on proposed rate cuts interesting. There is no easy way out.

We've got a big appreciation list for you: for creating AR; for Lydia who has been a complete pleasure to deal with; for Caleb who is a pleasant, responsive and conscious pro; and for commenting on a flame piece that we recently did. The emoticon graphic was priceless.

Also am PO's that we were still too new to AR to get that we should have been in SF with all of the rest of you. That won't happen again.

Cheers... 

9:29pm • #21
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18
2007
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 Matt, I came to your blog for trilobites, but stayed to read your unusually well-written analysis of conditions as of last week.  I work cattle with a retired air force buddy in Caddo OK every April.  His 1,400 acre spread is a paleo's dream.  We always spend a day collecting fossils in the limestone-bedded streams.   Thanks for AR.  My less-than-a-month association with this community has resulted in two pieces of business for me, and another from me to another AR member.
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