This started out to be a comment on another blog. I don't know the blogger, a Realtor® of unknown experience, reading his home page didn't help. The subject, mortgage brokers as investment advisors, is worthy of further discussion.

I'm not advocating mortgage brokers as investment advisors, but I believe educating the client as to his options is the moral responsibility of every loan originator. Most people don't know they have options.

Sir,

Don't stand in front of any mirrors! That finger your pointing might hit the right target.

I know the NAR's spokesman told congress that those evil mortgage brokers forced buyers into homes they couldn't afford. Can any thinking person believe that? I've been in lending and real estate since 1969 and I don't know how to force a buyer to over buy. I must have missed that class. I have taken many, many NAR sanctioned classes that taught that the home buyer should buy the largest, most expensive house possible. The idea was the buyers would be happy with the house longer than a smaller less expensive one. Realtors® also taught leveraging your real estate, and that even at the same appreciation/inflation rate you make a lot more on bigger/more expensive more leveraged house.

Many have conveniently forgotten that wisdom! It's a shame because it was good advice then and it's good advice today!

Everyone wants to point a finger, but no one points to themselves or at the consumer who stopped making his payments!

You're right it would be better if mortgage brokers weren't acting as investment advisors, better for the mortgage brokers. We've got a generation of Realtors® that have replaced financial statements and credit reports with "pre-approval" letters, yet continue giving real estate investment advice! Yes, buying a single family house even to live in is real estate investing. Without all the buyer's information, that advice can only be relevant to their own commission.

The mortgage broker is the only one who rigorously reviews the client's entire financial position and knows all his alternatives. Just how many of your clients have a financial planner, fee or other wise? Even if they do have a financial planer it's unlikely they know anything about real estate and mortgages. Real estate investment requires hands on involvement, Financial planners prefer hands together investments, you know the kind where after the purchase your only involvement is to put your hands together and pray!

Most people don't think of themselves as investors or potential investors, until somebody knowledgeable explains their position to them.

With out credit and financial statements, all to many judge a buyers ability by the car he drives into the parking lot, not even thinking that Hummer comes with a $50,000.00 loan.

Most people think that because most real estate investors invest in single family houses and that's what home salesmen sell, that investment and home salesmen are the same, they're not!

For all the problems, stop and consider the success rate of all those sub-prime loans. We've had the largest most successful growth in home ownership in the history of the world. If it weren't for the politicos this would be celebrated!

There are going to be a lot of people falling out of the business. Finger pointing won't save you. If you want to shrive I suggest integrity and education.

Bill

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12 Comments on Clouding The Issues

AUG
12
2007
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I can't argue the logic William, I have always felt a good lending officer was to be treasured. I only wish more people I have recently met had a good lender a couple of years ago.
3:12pm • #1
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Bill... this had to be one of your better written blogs. It flowed nicely and your point was easily understood. I couldn't agree more with this statement that you made. : The mortgage broker is the only one who rigorously reviews the client's entire financial position and knows all his alternatives.

Almost since my 2nd year into the business, I called myself a mortgage consultant. I understood the meaning behind this. I use to have loan officers, human resource people, and others laugh at the title that I chose, even after only being in lending for only 2 years. I didn't want to call myself a mortgage planner, because I think that would have gotten me into trouble. But I feel that those that know what they are doing, deservingly so should be giving advice and options. As you stated, most people don't know that they have options. Bravo.... 5

jeff belonger

3:47pm • #2
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Bill well stated my friend. Even though this current mortgage crisis sucks there are many many homeowners that made their subprime mortgages work and have experienced a great increase in equity(that they didn't spend). And the ones that did spend it? Well they probably helped out country stay out of a recession after the stock market crash in the late 90's. There's good and bad in everything. It just keeps going round and round. Always has and always will.

Now let's talk about you giving me the finger....:)

4:06pm • #3
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Bill - That is a very good post! It was well thought out and very easy to understand for both professionals and consumers. I'm giving this a 5 and putting on my Mortgage Cicerone Faves tomorrow. Again, fantastic post.
4:40pm • #4
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Howdy Bill

I would like to say you did a very fine reading post here. You gave some very good advice.

Here is a big 5 for you.

Have a good one

 

5:55pm • #5
AUG
13
2007
4 Featured Posts

Bill,

I also don't agree with pointing fingers, but what the H** is up, this is the worst market for everything...

Great post, 5

10:08am • #6

The first line of financial counseling should be with the real estate agent who is trying to serve his client and help him make a profit.  He needs to know everything there is to know about the potential client, he needs to have copies of his tax returns, pay stubs and credit report.

It makes the agent's job so much easier and the deal will close faster if the agent knows the capacity of the buyer.

www.CharlesParrish.com

10:14am • #7
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I want to than everyone for the kind words. We're in this together, REALTOR® and lenders it's to bad everyone doesn't understand that.

I do need to address two of you separately:

Thomas,

"This is the worst market for everything..." I'm sorry to tell you it's not even close.

We all have our personal "worst" in 1973 shortly after I left the bank to sell real estate there was the first oil embargo and the biggest money problem since the great depressions. There was money, there just wasn't any way to get it to where it was needed. CA had money, that was why their real estate values exploded, that was "worse" in Michigan. I opened a mortgage office in Incline Village, Lake Tahoe and then rates went to 21.500%, that was "worst"! If this is your "worst" thank God because it's still darn good!

Charles,

I think everyone here agrees with you. Fortunate is the client who's REALTOR® takes his position seriously. Unfortunately it's no longer common, if it ever was.

That said it changes nothing the LO still needs to advise his client about all the clients options. Some people have a prolmem understanding the term "client" when a REALTOR® refers his "client" to a lender the lender has the same relationship to that buyer. The buyer is a client of both the real estate salesman and the loan originator. The REALTOR® never becomes the lender's "client" both owe their allegiance to the buyer.

Bill

11:14am • #8
JAN
07
2008
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Bill, It's a shame that real estate agents don't embrace their fiduciary duties to their clients. They could start by learning what investing in real estate is all about.

This is a good counter-point to the other posts I've referenced on my post so I am going to "add" this to the list.

Bill Roberts

1:01am • #9
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Bill R,

Thank you.

You're a new reader to my blogs and those of Brian Brady none of our early readers would give us a oppertunity to go off on "fiduciary" ! Lucky for you I'm tired or I give you 3 or 4,000 well chosen words on the subject. Brian and I only slightly disagree, but it keep us going for months!

Bill

1:14am • #10
JAN
10
2008
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

OK Bill, I read it and commented on it. I think you'll be happy to know that you have an ally in this debate.

Brian Brady knows where I stand because we've discussed this at length.

Bill Roberts

11:04am • #12

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