Manhattan Beach CA: Are You a Bear or a Bull?



I 'm going to say this loud and in bold print... I like real estate.. and I think it will always be a good investment... I can't think of any other investment where you can buy an appreciating (long term) asset with so much leverage and over time..with a few exceptions... will always come out ahead on that investment.... and you have the added bonus of having a place to live. Google is a great stock but they won't let you move into the company headquarters.


The credit markets were whirling and twirling last week sending consumers into endless confusion. Much of the Los Angeles County market and our local South Bay-Beach Cities market is dependent on the jumbo loan(over $417,500) and that market is now deemed to be risky.


The reality is that most of the loans that will go into foreclosure are those with conforming loan limits($417,500-) that were made to people with poor credit who couldn't really qualify for them in the first place. Generally those buying in Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach and El Segundo with jumbo loans were able to afford the financing and are sound financially. The loans are considered risky because they are higher then the norm but our buyers are usually good credit risks. That said, we are in a segment of the market that is considered risky and we will pay a financial price.


One of the difficulties with cheap money is that too many people have used their homes as ATM machines.. not realizing that the cash they get is money they will have to pay back..and we certainly will have a few of those in the Beach Cities.. You can't fix dumb or bad judgment and there will always be a segment of the market that doesn't use good judgement.... whether it is consumers or the Wall Street credit markets.... CONTINUE

 

19 Comments on Manhattan Beach CA: Are You a Bear or a Bull?

Land is a limited commodity, it's simple supply and demand over time.  So to think that real estate is a bad investment, means that perhaps you've been approaching it in the wrong manner.  Which is precisely the case with the folks who over-speculated or overspent.  Houses as ATMs is a great visual and very true.  What the heck have folks been teaching the generation coming behind us?  THAT is scarier than the current mortgage drama which will settle itself out.

08/13/2007 04:21 PM by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties)


LEIGH- We don't keep making new land except in Hawaii.. and the truth is that while we may still have a lot of land.. people don't choose to live in many of those places.. they want to be in population centers with jobs.. you could live on top of a mountain in Wyoming.. but if there are no schools, jobs, shopping  so it's probably not going to work out .. the good places cost money if you want to live there..

08/13/2007 04:41 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Well said, Kaye. Not sure I can add anything of substance above and beyond your post. I agree, too, that the house as AtM is a terrific visual, and a scary one. It got too easy with rapidly rising prices to make a withdrawal and now too many are in overdraft and paying the price.

Jeff

08/13/2007 05:47 PM by Jeff Dowler ~ Carlsbad Real Estate (RE/MAX Associates)


Jeff- Thanks for stopping by.. I got that from a client.. who told me his house was better then an ATM machine.. since then I've seen it used in a lot of articles.  refinancing was made so easy that people never really thought about what would happen when they had to pay back the money..

08/13/2007 07:43 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


I don't know where all this is going. I read in our Hawaii news yesterday that we will see some of the foreclosing but not nearly anything like over there. It said because the majority of the loans were 30 year fixed loans. Only about 19% of loans went off in all directions. I still believe that at some point we'll see something.....just not sure what.

08/13/2007 08:29 PM by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman (RA), HAWAII Real Estate & HAWAII Relocation (Century 21 Liberty Homes -Mililani, Hawaii)


Sally- Boy if we only knew... we could retire and move to Hawaii...LOL......My market isn't going to see too many foreclosures either .. but other parts of CA and rest of the country will definitely have some problems.. Hawaii is a different market as many who buy there are buying second homes and have money to do so..

08/13/2007 09:03 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye,

You're right on many point here, especially like the atm comment. I loved your "can't fix stupid" comment!

As for Sally above, (I hope you don't mind me comment here) not sure about other places, yet according to our CAR economist, I think (hopefully someone else out there will remember exactly) about one-third of loans made in CA the past couple of years were "non" fixed 30 year loans. That doesn't mean they were all adjustable by any means, they could be a mix of different products.

08/13/2007 10:41 PM by Orange Co. Real Estate~Lynda Eisenmann, Broker-Owner, Brea, CA (Preferred Home Brokers)


Hi Kaye,Very well said. In fact, I  totally and whole heartedly agree. The ATM is a good analogy but most didn't have any equity to begin which is where most of the problem comes into play. Love the Bear and Bull pic's, can I buy them somewhere? I am a Taurus and love the bull....correction, I love the picture of the bull. LOL

Always,
William

08/13/2007 11:46 PM by San Diego Real Estate Voice authored by William Johnson GRI CRS e-PRO (RE/MAX Associates)


Lynda-Your numbers sound about right.. I know many of my clients opted for a 5-7 year fixed as they planned to move within that time frame..

 

William- I got them from microsoft clip art.. if you have publisher they should be there..

08/14/2007 01:09 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Ana- Thank you for reading and commenting.. How are things in Burbank?

08/14/2007 11:01 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye, excellent article.  So far I agree with EVERY word.  Heading over to your blog for the rest.  :-)

Hope all's well with you!

08/14/2007 11:07 PM by Pasadena CA Real Estate - Irina Netchaev (Keller Williams International Realty)


Irina- Thank you..  just got back from a few days away.. it was great.. Aren't you going away soon?

08/15/2007 01:04 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye, you're right on! We met with an economist last week from CAR. He had much the same thing to say. A comment he made was that peak sub-prime resets would end 1st quarter or 2nd quarter 2008. That still leaves into the middle of next year or later for us to see fallout. Hopefully, we can get our neighbors to sell before then and solid buyers to pick up the pieces. Great to see you on AR!

09/27/2007 03:35 PM by Brinette Holdren - Residential Real Estate (South Bay Brokers, Inc.)


Brinette-Yeah.. someone who agrees with me...would love to see the market settle for a few years so people have an opportunity to get their financial lives together..

09/27/2007 04:20 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


No kidding. I'm on vacation until January...>Ha! I wish.

09/27/2007 06:46 PM by Brinette Holdren - Residential Real Estate (South Bay Brokers, Inc.)


Brinette- No fair.. no vacation unless you take me too.... Seriously.. the 4th quarter may be a great  time to buy as sellers will negotiate price and rates may be at their lowest level for the next few years.. but then if my crystal ball was working I would be playing golf somewhere.... and would invite you to my vacation spot....

09/27/2007 09:58 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


I hope to find many of those buyers you speak of between now and December. I agree with you on the timing point!

Thanks for the thoughtful invite. We'll have to make due with our beautiful beaches here for now. Good luck out there!

10/04/2007 09:16 PM by Brinette Holdren - Residential Real Estate (South Bay Brokers, Inc.)


Brinette- If rates drop you may well see renewed activity..

10/04/2007 09:51 PM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


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