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6 Comments on HOA CCRs violations... statute of limitations... theory of laches...
Hi Robert,
I found your post of extreme interest.
I'd love to know (though I've never, ever heard) if "read somewhere that it is 5-years for CCR violations, and that the five year period begins from the time the person seeking enforcement discovered or should have discovered the violation." is factual or not? I'll keep tuned in to see if anyone else has an opinion.
Btw, I'm also in CA and last week I discovered CC&R's were identified on an early 1960's home with no HOA, and no mention on the TDS. This is the 2nd time I've seen it in older homes, last one a 1930's. Were some applicable...ie how may chickens/pigeons one could have? Absolutey not, yet reading more, there were other issues like drainage and earth movement (a slight hillside area) which could be. Reading on in this case, some issues "sunseted" after a period of time, yet not all.
Not that I think this specifically deals with your issue, yet it does relate to the enforcement and duration of CC&R's. In your case, I think I might possibly look for other potential violations in your area...seems like "selective enforcement" if it exists could be more of a case.
Thanks. No, selective enforcement won't work as we are the only ones who ever removed our fence. Here is some information from two posts I had dug up earlier.
http://www.ahrc.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB10&Number=3004&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Statute%20of%20limitations&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=2995&Search=true#Post3004
The statute of limitations for violation of a CC&R provision is 5 years. CCP §336(b)"
Statute of Limitations on Enforcement of CC&R Violations - (Effective January 1, 2001)
Assembly Bill 707 was intended to clarify which statutes of limitations apply to actions based on a breach of the recorded covenants contained in CC&Rs. Currently, there are three different limitations periods (3 years, 4 years and 5 years) that can govern these types of actions. This legislation adds California Civil Code Section 784 to clarify that the term “restriction†includes covenants contained in CC&Rs. This bill also amends California Code of Civil Procedure Section 336 to apply a five year statute of limitations to an action for a violation of a _restriction_ as that term is now defined in Civil Code Section 784.
Hi there,
Thanks so much for the info, I'll be following up on your links.
Btw, what I was referring to as "selective" enforcement is that it seems like some HOA's enforce some things while overlooking others.
to continue the thought....
1. can cc&rs live indefinitely if no one objects to them?.
2. suppose the CC&Rs state that they are valid for , say, 10 years and automatically renew every 10 years unless amended etc by 50+% of the home owners in the subdivision?
3. what about restrictions called out in a Corporate Grant Deed? don't they run with the property essentially forever?
many tks, tim
Tim, I can only comment on my experience and observations. From what I've seen, the CC&Rs can live, independent of any active association, but the ones I've seen have a definite expiration date unless renewed. I forget the percentage of owners that were needed to renew, I can't recall whether or not it was a super-majority or simple-majority
However, I do believe restrictions placed into the grant deed to run with the property forever.
many thanks!