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I recently went on a listing presentation where I knew the seller had negative equity.  When I arrived, I got the customary tour and received a detailed list of property upgrades.  I asked the seller the typical questions: how many loans to you have; what are the balances; monthly payments etc. I could tell he was hoping that I would tell him that I am a miracle worker and can sell the home at a break-even point.

 

It turns out that he owes approximately $79,000 more than the property is worth.  He has some relocation benefits but not nearly enough to make up this delta.  We discussed the short sale option.  He doesn't want to destroy his credit.  He mentioned "letting it go."  I cringed as I don't want to be party to anything resembling a strategic default. For him, a foreclosure and the credit damage that would follow, could jeopardize his security clearance with the US Government.  Without the security clearance, he can't do his job.  We also discussed Loan Modification.  He tried that......DENIED!  He makes too much money!  His relocation package offers a "buy out" option.  They will buy the property from him at market value.  That won't work either unless he can make up the difference.

 

OK, so here we have a responsible person with a job transfer, great credit, bright future and a house he can't sell.  Well, the house would sell but not without destroying his job.  So what's left? Carefully, yet swiftly, I told him that becoming a landlord might be his best option.  Rents are around $1100 per month. The monthly expense with mortgages and HOA is just shy of $1500 per month.  He would have to feed his mortgage $400 a month to keep his credit in tact.  $400 is a lot of money and could be the answer for him.

 

His relocation benefits are good for four years.  There is know way of knowing what four years will bring.  Will the market turn around?  Will the prediction hyper inflation take hold and drive interest rates through the roof?  He maybe faced with the same issues then that he is now.  

I referred him to a tax attorney so he can get education on the amazing tax benefits of being a landlord and possible tax liabilities if he ends up doing a short sale.  

This gentleman has a lot to think about before making a decision.  It won't be an easy one.

 

98 Comments on What's a Homeowner To Do?

JUL
29
2010
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Wow, he is in a tough spot. I think there are more of these people than we kow. Sad that he is so responsible and yet in such a bad spot. Sounds like entering the great occupation of Landlord, or staying put are his only options right now.

6:49pm • #1
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Great first blog Stacie.  I suspect that you're going to like this place. 

6:53pm • #2
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I kind of seen that one comming, had something close to that about a month ago shot out the same option to the people. Hope things works out for the guy.

6:54pm • #3
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Hi Stacie -- I just read that 9 billion reconstruction dollars in Iraq cannot be accounted for yet the very homeowner taxpayers that helped fund that 9 billion are stuck with bad choices while big banks and C-level corporate executives get huge payouts.  Seems like a stacked deck to me.  I truly feel for people in these situations.

6:58pm • #4
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It's sad when good people get into difficult situations. There is so much help out there for people who don;t work and can;t pay - sad there is nothing out there for good hardowrking people.

7:04pm • #5
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These people are in such a bad spot.   The ones with government clearance cannot walk away without losing thier livelihood.  I think you gave him great advice.  Question is, how long will he have to sink 400 a month into this negative asset?  Do you see the values going up in x years?    I know, I know, crystal ball is broken.    It is truly not fair that others actually have the luxury of walking away, but government employees do not.

7:04pm • #6
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Stacie, Welcome.  And there are so many people in this tough situation.  He's lucky that you are so educated to give him all his options.

7:08pm • #7
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Welcome to Active Rain Stacie.  The rental option IS probably the only option for the prospective client you mentioned in your post.  The $400 short fall will be made up partially in tax savings he will realize from depreciation on the property and the net loss he will be taking.  So it won't be as large of a hit as it seems.  Good suggestion for him.  Best of luck to you.

7:21pm • #8
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You did well in discussing all your options.  There is so much confusion for sellers and they are pretty stressed out with the market being where it is at. 

7:26pm • #9
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That gentleman is fortunate that he interviewed a true professional.

7:27pm • #10
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Welcome to AR.... Great post but pretty tough spots your seller is in.  He's not alone though with this economy.   I think I would suggest to rent it out.   good luck to you.

7:33pm • #11
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Did I see this is your first post? Wow....you are good at it already! Great story and good for you to find something helpful. I hope it all works out. Welcome to the AR party.

7:45pm • #12
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Years ago there were no short sales. You brought money to the table or you rented it until you could afford to get out. Sounds like the more things change the more they stay the same.

7:48pm • #13
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Renting sounds like his only option at this time.  He's lucky to have you to guide him.  Best wishes to you both!

7:51pm • #14
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Renting is not going to solve his problems just spin them off in a whole new direction. Problem is still there for him.

8:00pm • #15
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Stacie, this story is so typical, and so sad. Government security clearances will have to start lightening up. You did the right thing, and presented him with options.

8:21pm • #16
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Stacie - I commend you for a very professional job you did with the Homeowner. It seems that you had their best interests at heart not just your pocketbook. Great job & Good luck.

8:24pm • #17
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It stinks. I had the same issue. Bank denied short sale. Wells Fargo said relocation was not a hardship. I'm sad for your home owner!
8:25pm • #18
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It really is a terrible situation, but thankfully he had a knowledgeable realtor pointing out his best options!

8:25pm • #19
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Renting it out will bide him some time. Hopefully he will get good tenants and have a minimum of maintenance issues on the home.  I wish him good luck.

Sarah

8:30pm • #20
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Smart lady for referring him to a tax attorney to avoid being liable for a costly decision. Renting may be a good move and so might a short sale, but letting an attorney point out the benefits and deficits is the realm of a qualified legal expert. Too often I hear agent friends of mine advising sellers on whether or not to do a short sale, foreclosure, etc. Not this boy! Let the legal eagles have that one. My job will be to sell the home if that is what the seller decides to do after getting "expert" advice.

8:33pm • #21
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Stacie - great 1st blog.  By the way there is a lot of home owners that have already sold their home and they don't even know it.  They sold it back to the bank when they took out the credit line and used up all their equity; then the market went South.

8:52pm • #22

dont forget the nearly $5000 loss each year will help out with his income tax.

I would bet  that the lender would take whatever it sells for an a note for the rest. Then rent at his new location

8:54pm • #23
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Hi Stacie~  So sad for your seller and a tough decision to say the least.  I hope they make the right one, if there is a right one.  Welcome to ActiveRain! 

9:03pm • #24

I expect he would be behind MORE than $400 a month. There is a management company to handle things AND any repairs that are needed. If he has an unoccupied month that would also cost money.

 

Having said all that, renting is his only option EXCEPT for living where he is and not taking a transfer.

9:07pm • #25
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Welcome Stacie. In my area of DC/VA/MD, we obviously have a lot of relocation clients, so we see this often.

9:12pm • #26
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You are correct that in the short term, this might be the best way to go for him.  Since he benefits are for the next four years, that is a blessing.  I agree with John above about referring him to an attorney!  Great way to represent him, and to keep him as your client when it does come time to sell.

9:17pm • #27
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Very good first post. Well written and right on point.

9:22pm • #28
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Stacie,

You have done a wonderful job of being informed ( tax attorney advice) Renting will defer some of his immediate pressure ( keeping his job secure) and having his best interests in the for front.

Great post.Let us know what happens.

9:25pm • #29

Stacie:  Great post and excellent advice.  Welcome to AR, you're gonna love it!

9:40pm • #31
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Stacie,Your client should ask his employer if a short sale will revoke his security clearance. Foreclosure often does, but short sale may not.

9:44pm • #32

I had a client in  similar situation.  The difficult part was that she had met with another agent who said she could sale her property and more than breakeven.  After I did the calculations she would have had to bring about $35,000 to the table...money she didn't have.  I worked with her to get the house rented and she was able to move on and save her credit.

Candy Miles-Crocker
9:52pm • #33

We are seeing it more and more here in Houston, which until now has been "bullet proof".   I am also seeing the 2nd lien holders on these foreclosures starting to come after the homeowners after default. 

As the owner of alot of investment properties it is very possible with the "passive loss" and being able to write off alot of the "costs of doing business" he can get his out of pocket number down considerably.

Linda Jamail Marshall, Broker

Top 1% of Houston's 27,000 Agents 2003-2008

Linda J. Marshall
10:03pm • #34
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Congratulations on the feature, first post too.  I am impressed.

Unfortunately, this situation is all too common.

10:06pm • #35
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It's called between a rock and a hard place.  And it's all over.

10:22pm • #36
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I talk to good, responsible people all the time in this situation. Good post!

10:48pm • #37
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Real Estate Dame? Real Estate Dame!

Your client is in good, considered, thoughtful hands.

Real Estate Dame... 
11:16pm • #38
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My understanding of reading the blog is that he is not military but has a security clearance.  Foreclosure will lose his security clearance,  short sale may not.

For any military personnel please see:  

Military Personnel Receive Federal Help on Short Sales

http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20091228_military.htm

 

11:23pm • #39
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He isn't alone...  There are a lot of options, and none of them are super models, so he will have to see what he can handle.. 

11:28pm • #40
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Good post and good advice.  One item not mentioned is that rental prices are not stagnent.  Your client might find that rental prices move upwards enough to cover the mortgage payment before the property value is sufficient to cover the mortgage principal.  I'm in your same general market and have seen some rental prices move up 10% over the last 6 months!  Best of luck to you!

11:42pm • #41
JUL
30
2010
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Excellent first post, Stacie!  I am so thankful we are in an area that has had very few short sales.  There are so many people is very difficult situations with no easy answers.

12:20am • #42
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I feel for you seller, Stacie. Sorry to hear he's in this situation. But I think you provided him the right advice. I wish him success.

12:24am • #43
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Some really great advice fore your seller. This market has created so many different obstacles!

12:29am • #44
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It's tough to swallow but sometimes the best thing is for them to keep their house. It's the lesser of evils. If you can find him a really good property manager being a landlord shouldn't be to bad.
12:34am • #45

Stacie,

Welcome, what a great first blog and a feature, wow! Great job!

12:36am • #46

Does he have any "toys" to sell? Was it depreciation that got him into this trouble? Does his job allow him to pay the extra difference between the rental income and what he has to pay every month. I know you know you did the right thing in advising him to see a tax attorney.

1:25am • #47
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I forgot to add that I would like to hear how this story turns out. It seems to be the NEW American Way of life.

1:27am • #48
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Great first post Stacie- 

We are very proficient in short sales and close all of our short sale listings- so my question is- why can he NOT do a short sale? The only part of doing a short sale that ruins credit is when they stop making their mortgage payments. There is also a waiver for those in the armed forces when security clearances are an issue. Also , he can work on a repayment plan for a portion of the deficiency thereby further helping out with his situation. Furthermore, if this is his primary residence or has been 2 out of the last 5 years then he gets the debt relief act, and does not have to pay taxes on the forgiven amount. 

Furthermore- renting is not a good option in our opinion. We have so many sellers who try that route and find out that the tenants destroy the house, stop paying rent, etc etc. Then if they do have to sell, they have tenants who won't allow showings etc. If he has to make up $400 a month- what happens during vacancy times, then he has to pay the whole amount, plus HOA fees if there are any, plus taxes and landlord insurance and liability insurance. Katerina

2:03am • #49
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I had one in the same spot except in addition his wife had cancer.

2:04am • #50
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A short sale is not going to jeopardize his security clearance or ruin his credit score nearly as much as a foreclosure. A job transfer qualifies as a Hardship... I did a a short sale where the owner had a job transfer and the owner qualified to purchase a home where they moved to.

Mortgage payments were kept current while we short saled their Las Vegas Home. (Fannie Mae is changing this guideline on 10/01/2010...)

Tax consequences? If it's his primary home. Read this IRS Publication concerning Forgiveness of Debt along with Publication 4681.. As long as he did not cash out Refi, it's pretty self explanatory. In other words... there are probably no tax consequences for doing a short sale in his situation. (Certainly smart to refer him to the Tax Advisors though to pass on the liability.)

As for renting out the property and coming out of pocket that much every month for the risk involved when he is already $79,000 under... not worth it IMO..Precisely why the housing mess is such a mess from all of the "investors" buying $400,000 homes that could only rent out for $1,400 a month.

Amazing tax benefits? Giving somebody $100 to maybe getting back $34 is never an amazing benefit. For anybody who thinks it is ... I'll give you directions of where to send me $100 and I'll send you back $75. It's a much better return on your money then owning investment RE just for the ability to take the tax write off on depreciation.

A couple of years ago we had a bunch of Property Management companies running around touting this.. all it created was owners losing even more money, created more stress and only delayed the inevitable.

Once an owner flips that Primary Home and converts it to an investment property... you are opening up a whole nother can of bad worms. Would if a tenant trashes the property in 2013 and he then decides to short sale or "let it go"... still around $80K Under and then finds outs this time around, he'll have to pay taxes on that $80K loss?

I don't think he'll be too happy...

Anyways... best wishes and Congrats on the Featured Post!

 

3:34am • #51
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Stacy, 

Great suggestions and logic in helping your potential customer begin to understand his options.  It's not easy, but rentals can be a good way to go for the short-term rather than just throwing in the towel.

Welcome to the rain!

All the best, Michelle

5:36am • #52

I think that your efforts to explore every possible option for this client - even those that would be of no benefit to you - are commendable.  Nice work.

Several other posts have already touched on this, but a short sale will not necessarily destroy his credit provided he keeps his payments current until the close.  The credit impact from the short sale itself is really not that significant, it's the missed payments that do the real damage.  For now anyway, it is extremely rare for a lender or investor to decline a short sale because the loan is current and job relos are usually a slam dunk for hardship approval.

I have negotiated several short sales for borrowers employed by various branches of Homeland Security who also depend on their credit scores to maintain their clearances.  In each case they have emerged from the process just fine.  I would strongly suggest your borrower meet with his immediate supervisor first and explain the situation and see exactly what they have to say - he certainly doesn't want any surprises after the fact.

In terms of renting, I cringe at the thought of how many years he may have to bear that burden for before the market value has come back to equal the loan balance.  The market you're operating in has obviously borne more than it's share of the market drop.  Living and working in South Florida, I can assure you that I am more than sympathetic to that plight.

9:35am • #53

You gave him good advice. Stick with him and good luck.

10:32am • #54
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Have a very similar client right now. Before I took the listing, I sat down with him and 'crunched' the numbers. He soon realized what his real options were and decided to also list the house for rent.

10:39am • #55

We were in the same position with my husband's job transfer and relocation a few months ago, renting really wasn't an option, it on acreage with an older home LOTS of maintenance...Long and the short of it is, we coughed up over 6 digits to get out of the house. Devastating, but our credit is in tact and we're reasonable young and hope to recover financially, we don't see a home purchase in our  near future and are now renters ourselves...

11:01am • #56
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I just was faced with the same situation. Fortunately my clients had the eight thousand to make up the difference.  It hurt, but they are doing it rather than ruin their credit.  We discussed renting it, but they opted to lose the money now instead of having the uncertainty and a 2k a month negative. It is a tough decision and hopefully your client can get good advice.

11:02am • #57

We are seeing more and more instances where this works best for the seller.  As long as they can maintain both mortgages until the home value will equal the sale.

11:05am • #58
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Firm-footed post.......well done

11:05am • #59
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Stacie-

 

Comment # 51 touched on this a bit...if your seller has qualifying credit scores (over 620) has not missed any mortgage payments, and is so inclined, he may be easily qualified to purchase another home immediately after selling his in a short sale.  We have done this exact same deal several times, and none of them were for as good of a reason as your client has.  The key things are these:

  • NO late payments
  • Qualifying credit score
  • Cannot be an obvious 'move down the road' to a same home for less.  RELO is definitely a good reason for an ok deal.
11:29am • #60
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There are a lot of people in this boat and it is not easy.  He should become a big financial institution and just run his business into the ground and let the Feds bail him out.  You make a lot more money being a big failure in this country than being a small hard working person.

11:30am • #61
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I agree with Donna. How many entitlement programs is our government introducing on a weekly basis to "help" those who don't have jobs, education or futures when there are hard working Americans out there in the same situation as this guys! Ugh! So frustrating!!!!

11:30am • #62
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Great recommendations, however, with $79k deficiency and the state of the economy, short sale is the best solution with the known facts because the liability is removed. You didn't share the FMV of the home

There is a short sale marketing strategy to employ for a quick step process and with a properly structured short sale package could result in a quick approval.  

11:32am • #63
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Hi, fellow KW agent! What an awesome job helping your client! You covered all the options, showed him all the numbers, and resolved his dilemma. You didn't make any money at this time for all your efforts, but surely you indebted yourself to him. So when the 4 years are up, who do you think he's going to call? CALL STACIE! 

By the way, can we link up with referrals? You never know when another Minnesota snowbird migrates to Arizona!

11:36am • #64
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Good job referring him for other professional advice. Realtors are not attorneys or accountants.

11:42am • #65
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I see others have already stated that he should check into things further regarding his security clearance.  It is my understanding that in most cases a short sale won't cost you security clearance but foreclosure usually will.  I do know someone who did a short sale here in Lee County Florida and his security clearance wasn't affected.  Good Luck!

11:45am • #66

Nice post.  I really don't think that the Short Sale will damage his credit enough to affect his security clearance as long as the payment are kept current until it sells.  Also,  you may consider asking the lender for a deed in lieu of foreclosure,  that may be another valid option for your seller.  It's good to see that other agents like yourself are really looking out for your client's best interest,  that's what we should all be doing for our clients.  Good Luck!

11:47am • #67
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Stacie--

Great job on educating the seller and referring him to a professional that might be able to help him break down his situation further.  And welcome to the Rain!

12:16pm • #68
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Hi Stacie,  Lots of pain out there.  It sounds like you went through all the right steps and arrived at the best option for him.  Of all the selling scenarios out there working with a distressed seller is the worst.

12:36pm • #69
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Stacie:  Not only a very good blog, but excellent job of looking out for your clients best interests.  You looked at ALL of his options and then gave him the best alternative (rental) but made sure he got the legal advice to make a truly educated decision.  Excellent job.

12:50pm • #70
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Hi Stacie,  Welcome!

Word of caution:  I recently read an article that lenders are cracking down on people who are renting out their property and, as a result, it is no longer "owner occupied" per the terms of the loan.  The lender filed a FRAUD lawsuit with a person who did exactly what you're referring to in your blog. 

The homeowner was simply trying to cover their debt on their existing home because of a relocation but the lender would have none of it! Might want to encourage the homeowner to check with their lender to see if they find this acceptable or face the possible consequences.

1:05pm • #71
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Hi Stacey, Great post, and great that you are keeping your clients needs the first priority. Blessings to your business.

1:07pm • #72
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Really tough real-world situation!  We have attorneys here in MA that are pretty effective at working out the short sale with the owner's bank.  If successful, credit should not be destroyed, but executing a strategic default would do that for sure!  The landlord option was an execellent suggestion.  Good for you!

3:10pm • #73

I wish there was a "re-do", like when we were kids!

3:11pm • #74
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I used to only list properties, but in this economy have changed to working with buyers.  Yours is an extreme case where there is no "Good" option, but almost everyone I have talked to recently about listing has a similar story.  Tough time for sellers.

3:54pm • #75
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One comment I did not see, was that he might want to check into possibility of a VA loan in his new location, as he has security clearance - if it has anything to do with military, there is possibility he might qualify in that arena thus lowering the DP he needs in new location.

4:27pm • #76

What Jerry Murphy said.

Truett Neathery, Appraiser
5:16pm • #77
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Thanks for the responses.  I have gotten so much good information to share with him to help him in his decision.  Have a great weekend!

5:29pm • #78
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Stacie,

Great first post!  And a subject near and dear to my heart.  I hear this story (minus the government security clearance) at least 5 time per week.  What is a homeowner to do?  Follow your advice - becoming a landlord is his only way out at this point.  Hopefully that new position will compensate him enough to make up the deficit in the house payment.

 

Welcome to Active Rain!  I hope I get the opportunity to meet you at RainCamp in August!

 

Jan

6:59pm • #79
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I had one today that wanted to let their property go, but wanted to buy something else first.

I said, Gee I am real sorry, but that is called fraud and I will not be a party to that.  If you have money to buy a place, then you have money to settle up with your bank.

I suggested a short sale, but I think they were looking for an agent that was up for the fraud.  

As Mike Ferry, always said, N E X T!!!!   I like my reputation and my license way too much.   Joy

8:48pm • #80
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Great blog - I had the SAME situation this past week and was going to blog on it too - but yours is so great I might just reblog it! I suggested renting also - however I recently also heard that if you are going to rent your home - you have to be able to show 6 months of rental income on your taxes before being able to buy a new one as an owner occupied.

9:14pm • #81
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I think it's great that you presented him with different options so that he can make an informed decision.

12:27am • #82
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That poor man. And he's only one of many who is sitting stuck between a rock and a hard place.

1:05am • #83
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Stacie: Sound advice and having a shortfall of $400 per month is better than the consequences he would face if he did default.

Ty

9:48am • #84

I have 2 programs for this home owner.

1) mortgage principal reduction. We buy the note from the existing lender and create a new note based on fair market value. They can stay in the house, lease it out or sell it immediately.

2) the second option is similar except that when succesful the new payment is also based on fair market value, but it will be a LTV of 60%, maybe 50%. Again the house can also be sold.

Whichever option is selected the home owner avoids the negative impact of a short sale. That is why I call my web sites loanmodkiller.com and shortsalekiller.com

i will have a simple decision maker on my web site in the next few days which you suggest th ebest option for the home owner. If you need faster assistance you can call me direct 214 810 2232

12:33pm • #85
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Dear Stacie: 

RENTAL: If you advise him to rent the property, make sure the fellow has adequate "reserve funds" because if the property goes vacant or there is an eviction from H%&L...the owner has to be able to pay the rent AND clean up and re-rent the property (minimum should be 6 mos reserves + $5,000 for clean up). 

If he makes a mistake on his reserves and gets into trouble...who will he be blaming???

His Realtor, of course.

1:20pm • #86
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Great post, very good advice. I am seeing this situation alot and just had a similar conversation with a client yesterday. Welcome to the blogging party.

1:23pm • #87

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T Hoffer
9:53pm • #88

You laid out the options very well for your prospective client.  I couldn't agree more.

10:22pm • #89

What about a deed in lieu? Sign the home over to the bank with contingencies on how to report it to the credit agency.

10:43pm • #90
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01
2010
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I'm dealing with an almost identical scenario, except Minister, rather than government employee. As you may be aware, there is no option to say "no, I can't relocate to serve my next calling" (Ministers take an oathe to answer the call to serve at any time, with or without notice).

At least your man's employer might leave a little room for negotiation, in my case, it's not an employer/employee relationship, it is God/servant.

Best of luck to the homeowner and yourself.

10:03am • #91
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I see this way too often now.  It really is quite sad for the homeowner and frustrating for the Realtor when not much can be doen to help.  Many people can't afford to sell their house and are resorting to renting it out (often for less than their monthly financial obligation on the house). 

11:35am • #92
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Hi Stacie,

I agree with #60.  As long as there are no mortgage lates and the credit is over 620, I would sell short and buy a new home using FHA financing.  I have a loan with this almost exact same scenario.  Forced Relocation is a legitiment hardship and FHA will allow the buyer to get an FHA loan, provided that the short sale isn't an FHA loan, and there are no missed payments. 

9:34pm • #93
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Hi Stacie,

I agree with #60.  As long as there are no mortgage lates and the credit is over 620, I would sell short and buy a new home using FHA financing.  I have a loan with this almost exact same scenario.  Forced Relocation is a legitiment hardship and FHA will allow the buyer to get an FHA loan, provided that the short sale isn't an FHA loan, and there are no missed payments. 

9:34pm • #94
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03
2010
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I have a friend in the same boat.  They have decieded to struggle w/two mortgagaes and hope that the market will improve. 

2:25pm • #95
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I have a friend in the same boat.  They have decieded to struggle w/two mortgagaes and hope that the market will improve. 

2:25pm • #96
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04
2010
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Stacie-

$400/month X 12 =$4800 and multiply that by 4 years (if he's lucky the market will rebound)=$20K. Being a Landlord and renting it out  sounds like a bad idea, and that $20K negative cash flow is not even counting repairs (what if the roof goes or another major repair?

Short Sale is the only sensible way to handle this. It's a tough pill to swallow, but hundreds of thousands of homeowners are beong forced to do this.

My statement is: SHAME on the banks to accept a BPO on a property of 30%-50% less than what current owner has paid--- in order to short sell it--- BUT will not adjust the principle for the owner of records.

5:15pm • #97
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05
2010

Is there any way he would sell it for a large lump sum of cash?

4:27am • #98
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22
2010
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Thanks for the post and the great comments. This is good stuff.

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