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We've got some amazing stuff to show you this morning!

ActiveRain represents the blogging platform of choice for more real estate professionals than all other blogging resources combined. We reached this position by consistently connecting our members with those they are seeking to reach: whether they wish to connect with the largest network of real estate professionals in the world or the 2,500,000 consumers that visit ActiveRain each month.

Monday, August 2nd, we introduced ActiveRain Community Pages, an incredible new way to present your hyper-local content to consumers in the way they want to see it.

With this rollout, we've taken over 2,000,000 blog posts and organized them into 100,000 member-defined communities. This will be one of the premier resources for the world's most up-to-date hyper-local information. 

Please check out what an example Community Page looks like:

If you are a RainMaker, the hyper local posts you publish on ActiveRain will syndicate to these Community Pages, automatically, and for no additional charge!

In addition to the organic content section on the left side of the page, we will also be offering our members a chance to become the exclusive sponsors for each community. 

Sponsorships will include the ability to:

  • Prominently display your picture on the page along with your contact information.
  • Create a highlighted link back to a location of your choice (most likely your home search website).
  • Upload a high definition marquee photo for the community to be displayed at the top of the page.
  • Write a community description describing the highlights of living in that community which will be a static portion of the page.

On Wednesday at noon (PST) we will begin offering an exclusive sponsorship position for each community. Sponsorships will be available to RainMakers for $19/mo, and for non-RainMakers for $29/mo. 

To sponsor a community, visit your community of choice and if your community is still available, you'll be able to sponsor it right from there.

We have exciting plans to bring additional value to the sponsorships, so look for those in the coming weeks and months.

 

The Community Pages are live now! You can find links to them on the City Pages on ActiveRain:

 

227 Comments on Introducing the world's best community pages.

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All members with live Localism Community sponsorships will receive the corresponding ActiveRain Community sponsorships as a thank you for their continued their support of ActiveRain. These members will be receiving both community sponsorships for a discounted rate of $9 per month.

 

11:02am • #1
226,384 Points 7 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I love this! I will be all over the sponsorship. However, I am really lost. I can not seem to locate where the community pages are. Are the community pages up or are they being rolled out on Wednesday? I have gone to the state, then my county and then my city.....

11:10am • #2
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Stephanie,

I'm so glad to hear that you like them! 

Here are a few links to communities in your primary market city:

https://activerain.com/states/CA/cities/Santee/communities/Mission%20View

https://activerain.com/states/CA/cities/Santee/communities/Black%20Horse%20Estates

11:15am • #3
161,883 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Exciting news. I plan on seeking this out when it is live. Although I am not in the forefront I am close in my city.

11:24am • #4
1,306,423 Points 314 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

How is this different from the rollout of community pages with Localism  many months ago?

11:28am • #5
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Ken, 

It is exciting news, and I've got another piece of even more exciting news!!

If you sponsor one community within a city, all of the other unsponsored communities within that city will display your picture, link, and contact information in the sponsorship position in a Round Robin rotation with anyone else in the city who has a sponsorship.  If no one else has a sponsorship in that city, then you will have 100% of the rotation.

11:32am • #6
166,080 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

I think this now explains why I could never find any information about the Localism sponsorship, I have been very interested in building up the page for my area. I am a little curious about the fact that now it seems like if I do not jump right on the sponsorship that my 40 solid days of posting hyper local might now end up driving traffic to another agent. Is this going to cost me $9 per month or $19. I have worked with other sites that broke it down so far that in order to completely cover just the city of St Cloud we had to sponsor over 10 communities, this seems like what is now going on here.  I have created all of the communities in St Cloud, and now I should pay for an area that has only 30 homes that I put in place for you?????

Please clarify some of this for me if you would, thanks in advance for the help. 

11:32am • #7
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Hi Jeff,

A few of the high level points:

1. This is on the ActiveRain domain, so it carries a much greater domain authority, and with that search engine ranking. Localism receives approximately 250,000 unique visitors per month to it's community pages. We expect ActiveRain will be much more successful.

2. These pages are formatted to ActiveRain's standard content width, so we will have much greater consistency with how the pages look.

3. The content is laid out differently on these pages. One key differentiator is the large HD photo at the top of these community pages.

11:38am • #9
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Is it possible to order a Localism Community sponsorship before the community pages are available? 

11:47am • #10
268,958 Points 3 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I don't get it.  We already have Localism.  What''s the difference?

Shouldn't all of the Localism communities be in these communities?  I could not find any communities for Whittier, CA.

Are you getting rid of Localism?

11:47am • #11
163,867 Points 85 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Steve,

1. Yes, we recently stopped accepting new sponsorships on Localism in preparation of this update. 

2. Sponsorships will cost $19/mo.

3. I took a look at all of the community pages for Saint Cloud and you already have great exposure on every page! Adding a sponsorship will allow you to customize those pages a bit more (and make them more beautiful), it will add a few more ways for consumers to contact you, and you will be able to put a valuable link on that page to a location of your choice.

You do not need to sponsor every community in your city. We created the sponsorship structure in such a way that the communities in a city that are un-sponsored will show the sponsor of the other communities in that city. (See comment #6 above). We did this so that members who sponsor the larger communities in a city will not need to sponsor the tiny communities that do not warrant a $19/mo sponsorship.

A few links to Saint Cloud Community Pages

https://activerain.com/states/MN/cities/Saint%20Cloud/communities/Centennial

https://activerain.com/states/MN/cities/Saint%20Cloud/communities/Barden%20Park%20Historic%20District

https://activerain.com/states/MN/cities/Saint%20Cloud/communities/Downtown%20St%20Cloud

11:51am • #12
483,061 Points 46 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Called Shot Master

So glad the Localism folks will be an automatic...trying to get my particular city last time was nerve racking!!

I've had several people sell and/or buy with me from my Localism posts, so it does work!

Cindy in Indy (Fishers, Indiana)

11:52am • #13
269,874 Points 59 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Jonathan - So does this now replace Localism?  I like the look (much better than the confines of aesthetics in Localism) and look forward to toying with this.

11:55am • #14
393,129 Points 42 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

It sounds like these are all new pages which don't have any track record yet as far as their rankings. Can you supply any traffic statistics for a particular page so that we know how much traffic we are buying or is this positioning ourselves for the future traffic of these pages?  It's kind of like speculating on land out where a highway is planned.  Don't know how much business it will bring but you need to start paying the carrying costs of owning it before you will actually find out.

11:56am • #15
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Karen, No, the Localism sponsorships have been replaced with ActiveRain Community Pages.

Bob, You will receive ActiveRain Community Sponsorships for all Localism communities that you currently sponsor. The price will not increase for you.

We have not yet decided what our plans are for Localism.

You have a lot of nice exposure already on the Whittier Community Pages! Here is a link to an example community in Whittierhttps://activerain.com/states/CA/cities/Whittier/communities/Hellman%20Park

To find the other communities, just go to the city page and look at the links on the left, below the words "Explore Whittier CA".

11:59am • #16
166,080 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Jonathan,  Thank you for the swift reply, can I just sponsor St Cloud?

12:00pm • #17
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Matt, I'm glad that you like the look. Being on a consistent platform, these pages will allow us much greater flexibility to build on that Localism did. 

Tim, Yes these are all brand new pages. It will take a little while before we have any meaningful traffic statistics to share. Sponsoring a community is a bit speculative, the good news is that if it doesn't work out, you'll be able to cancel anytime. However if it is a huge home-run, then you've secured your place.

What we do know is that this is the type of unique, long tail content that Google loves, and it is on a powerful domain (activerain.com). 

 

12:08pm • #18
163,867 Points 85 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Steve, Our city pages do not have any sponsorship or advertising on them.

12:10pm • #19
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This is very exciting stuff and I'm looking forward to when the sponsorships open.  It will be interesting to monitor traffic on these pages versus the localism pages.  Thanks for sharing this new feature with us!

12:14pm • #20
269,874 Points 59 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Jonathan - I like that you are thinking of how to build on them.  Keep it up (not that haven't in the past)!  Localism was a great idea, but I'm not sure if it ever really reached its full potential.  I know I found myself frustrated by the size contraints and the lack of any kind of "policing" (I know some people are against it, but I'm all for it) to keep non-local posts from being pushed to the communities.

12:17pm • #21

Very, very cool! People are going to love this!

12:20pm • #22
166,080 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Jonathan, This is exactly what the other group that I was a member of did, and just to let you know because the individual neighborhoods were too small to warrant the expenditure they have not had but one or 2 sponsors for a short period of time. I will happily show you the info on this... If you decide to let someone sponsor an area that is big enough to get the traffic please let me know. I would be very happy to sponsor St Cloud. Oh and the other side effect of this is that agents quit adding communities to the main page. Proven success with the cities, then dividing them down might have been a better avenue for our area in central Minnesota. We are not a huge city, and within our metro area there are several cities already - you could have a page for Waite Park, St Cloud, Sartell, Sauk Rapids and you could get a sponsor for each one. They are all part of the St Cloud Metro area as a matter of fact if you did not have a map or the roadsigns you might not even know that you left one city and crossed into another, please take a look and reconsider ARs position. I want all involved to be successful with this project.

12:26pm • #23
408,192 Points 12 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I am a little confused.  So if you sponsored cities in Localism what happens?  Do those sponsorships go away? I had only sponsored cities in my small area. Never communities inside a city. 

12:26pm • #24
Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp

Jonathan:  I am very excited about this.  I sponsor my community now, Channahon, Illinois, however, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to upload my picture into localism.  The new look is much better and I am looking forward to hearing more about this.

12:27pm • #25
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I definitely have an interest, if I can find any of my communities. Time to start a search

12:36pm • #26
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Dee, Glad you like it. Wednesday should be a fun day!

Matt, Yes formatting should be MUCH better on these pages. Also, we have some exciting ideas on how to feature the best content on these community pages.

Steve, If you sponsor one community within St. Cloud and no one else sponsors a community there, then in essence you are sponsoring the entire city for the price of one community. That is our workaround to the low value communities problem. 

Jo, Your Localism community sponsorships will transfer over. Since we don't have city level sponsorships on ActiveRain, we will be allowing members that sponsored cities on Localism to receive a discount on the same number of communities on ActiveRain. Call Bob Stewart, or the support number at the top of ActiveRain to work this out.

Wendy, The new AR Community Pages will feature one large HD marquee photo, and uploading it is very easy!

12:38pm • #27
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Great! Thank you. One of the links to Black Horse Estates goes to Mission View. Since these are my hyper local posts, and if I decide not to sponsor the community, will it still be my content and then the sponsor will be featured with my content? I am the one who has created most of the communities in my area. I am not sure that I would want to create any more communities with the potential of someone else being the sponsor of a community I created and provide the hyper local content. Will this be discussed further at RainCamp? 

12:42pm • #28
408,192 Points 12 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I knew it would be a good answer.  Thanks I will call today. 

12:46pm • #29
161,232 Points 13 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Hi Jonathan: The consensus is another home run for ActiveRain!  I just went over to Localism for my area and then noticed that my sponsorship of two communities did not automatically roll to the next month.  (Sad face)  I won't let that happen again once you roll out the community pages. Thanks for this!

12:47pm • #30
268,958 Points 3 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

When Localism first went live, I sponsored 3 communities.  After 3 months, I stopped my sponsorships because it was not producing anything for me.  Back then, I did not really understand hyper-local blogging, so did not get the full benefit.  I now have a much better understanding of hyper-local blogging, and also have the inspiration and ideas of what to blog about.  So, I am going to take the risk and sponsor a couple communties.

It could turn into a huge land rush, with all of us homesteaders wanting to grab the same piece of land.  How about giving the people who commented first on this blog the first opportunity to grab communities?  Whataya say Jonathan?

12:47pm • #31
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You do not need to sponsor every community in your city. We created the sponsorship structure in such a way that the communities in a city that are un-sponsored will show the sponsor of the other communities in that city. (See comment #6 above). We did this so that members who sponsor the larger communities in a city will not need to sponsor the tiny communities that do not warrant a $19/mo sponsorship.

I can't get the chance to sponsor a community - Stuart (which I am ranked #3) because it is taken.  I paid $9 for localism for a neighborhood.  So does this mean I will never have a shot at my city?  Is this a yearly contract?  How does this impacat my localism - neighborhood then?  A little confused here.

12:48pm • #32
268,958 Points 3 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Better yet, how about giving first grab to the people who created the communities (hint: I created all of the Whittier communities).

12:49pm • #33
247,582 Points 20 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

This seems like a natural extension of AR and Localism was kind of the forgotten step-child.  I still think you are going to have the same problem that Localism had/has, and I just looked at my local communities...most of them are listings.  There is very little true local content in the way that will be meaningful to the consumers.  When an agent actually took the time to write a good local post it gets pushed down by the listings. 

As you know most consumers will click on and click off really quickly.  It would be nice if listings were pulled out and maybe a button would take consumers to local listings for that neighborhood so that the true neighborhood pieces have center stage.

12:50pm • #34
254,781 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router

very interesting, localism has never grown but I still get a reasonable amount of hits to it each month. I am all for anything that increases web traffic.

12:50pm • #35
106,055 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp

Sorry - one more thought regarding your post above.... (All members with live Localism Community sponsorships will receive the corresponding ActiveRain Community sponsorships as a thank you for their continued their support of ActiveRain. These members will be receiving both community sponsorships for a discounted rate of $9 per month.  So then a community sponsorship would never be available?  Just because someone has been on AR a couple of years and knows the ropes - how does that impact newer members for a chance to get a thank you and a deal?  Sorry for all these questions...

12:50pm • #36

Stephanie,

That is essentially how it would work if you chose not to sponsor your community. However, I would contend that it is the combination of the two actions, the sponsorship and content that give you the best chance of demonstrating your expertise in the area.

I would say that taken on their own, having the great content is going to trump someone just coming and sponsoring a community. Consumers are smart, and they are going to realize that you are the one who created the content that is educating them about the community.

12:53pm • #38
376,907 Points 85 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I like it!  I'm off to check it out now!  But what if my community covers TWO counties???

12:54pm • #39
402,750 Points 4 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jonathan - Wow this sounds spookily like the old Land Rush for the Localism sponsorship a few years back... I believe I will be having to call Bob on this one as well... The new format looks great and hope this works for everybody. I will wait a few days though because I'm sure now that Bob is back he is still digging out from under his emails.... Very Cool and thanks for letting us all know about this very cool sponsorship..

12:57pm • #40

Susan,

"I can't get the chance to sponsor a community - Stuart (which I am ranked #3) because it is taken.  I paid $9 for localism for a neighborhood.  So does this mean I will never have a shot at my city?" 

Currently, there is no sponsoring of cities on ActiveRain, only communities within the city.

"Is this a yearly contract?  How does this impacat my localism - neighborhood then?"

No, it is month to month. If you have a Localism sponsorship, it will continue to be there and you will add on the corresponding sponsorship of that community on ActiveRain. Call me if you are still confused and I will try to explain it to you in better detail over the phone.

12:58pm • #41

Robert,

Call me any time, I'm back and done digging.

12:59pm • #42
384,516 Points 28 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Okay...I'm in.  I'll at least give it a shot for a few months.  How long before you think the kinks are worked out?  I hung in with Localism for quite some time and it never panned out, truly.  I'm hoping this won't be the same :)

Now I"ll have to get busy and start posting to my blog again, lol.  That's a good thing!

1:01pm • #43

Susan,

If someone is already sponsoring a community on Locaiism for $9, that community is not available on ActiveRain, that is correct. They are being allowed to sponsor that community as a part of the $9 they pay for Localism.

Regarding newer members getting a thank you and a deal, the premise of the thank you is that we are thanking them for supporting us by maintaining their Localism sponsorships. I'm not sure how we could thank the newer folks. Maybe you have a suggestion?

1:04pm • #44
343,204 Points 19 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

So, will there be only one accepted for Tulsa? And there are 25 neighborhoods under Tulsa - how will that work? Any discounts for those paying for hit router?

1:06pm • #45

Elizabeth,

We hope it is continually evolving. Having these pages inside ActiveRain allows us to devote more resources to making them dynamic and cool. We have some things already planned to add and we have no question that our members will make some great suggestions to help us come up with even more ideas.

1:06pm • #46

Lori, It will be the 25 neighborhoods that someone can sponsor. Right now, no one will be able to sponsor the city of Tulsa, or any city for that matter.

Sorry, no discounts for people paying for hit router.

1:10pm • #47
687,910 Points 83 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

WOW -- let the land grab begin.  I'm sure they will be the grumps who will not want to put anything (further) in the localism sections if someone else's banner will be prominently displayed.  For those that have the money to invest, it's a great opportunity.  For those who are on a tight advertisting budget, it's something else that can't participate in.  The big fish in the rain pool will become bigger. 

1:13pm • #48

How do I find out today if cities I want to sponsor will or will not be available on Wednesday?

1:16pm • #49
343,204 Points 19 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

So how many neighborhoods can you get for $9 or $19/month?

I'll await the answer to Valerie's question.

Maybe you should do a webinar on this.

And, Carla brings up a good point.

I would have been a Localism sponsor when I joined AR had it been available. I think sometimes your systems do not favor newcomers.

1:30pm • #50
Localism Sponsor

While I think it's a great idea, I don't believe yet that it would be worth the money to sponsor a community.  I've been #1 in my town for about a year now, and I have not received a single lead from ActiveRain, even when I was paying to be a Rainmaker.  As Bob said in his comment (#33), I don't believe it would be worth the money...yet.  But I'd love to hear the feedback of other agents who are now using the new layout...are you finding it worth the money?

In general, I receive about 5-6 lead referrals from my trulia.com account (which is free!) and I find the ActiveRain users are mainly other agents or professionals in the real estate industry. I have yet to find a buyer or seller client who's even heard of ActiveRain.  Anyone else have the same results?

-TMC

Tim Cahill
MBA, Certified EcoBroker, Realtor
Web site: CyberGreenRealty | Blog: Home Green Home
T: 617.599.2775
E: timcahill@avenue3re.com

1:40pm • #51

Lori,

You can get as many sponsorships of communities as you would like for $19. There are no additional sponsorships available at $9. Only the people already holding a Localism sponsorship will get the $9 price on their communities on ActiveRain.

You wrote: 'i think sometimes your systems do not favor newcomers'. We try to have our systems be neutral, favoring neither newcomers or old timers. Anyone, up until a few days ago, was able to sponsor Localism communities. The system for doing so has been in place for a long time. Whenever a new person signs up, they are sent links that they can read that attempt to explain many of the intricacies of ActiveRain. Whether a person reads them or not is another story (I'm not the type that reads that stuff when I join something, I go through it by trial and error, and probably miss some stuff as a result) Sometimes it's just easier being a veteran. That's the way of the world, not something we created.

Valerie,

Right now you will need to check the same community on Localism to see if it is available. If someone is currently sponsoring it on Localism, then they will maintain that sponsorship for the community on ActiveRain. Otherwise, on Wednesday morning  will be the first time you will be able to obtain this information on ActiveRain.

 

 

1:41pm • #52
360,216 Points 11 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Called Shot Master

What constitutes a city versus a community?  In my region, we have towns of about 8000 people - certainly not enough to constitute a city.  To sponsor a community/neighborhood within one of these towns would likely generate very few clicks or leads.  For those of us who cover several small towns, will each town be considered a community?

1:42pm • #53
1,002,930 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Howdy and afternoon there Jonathan and Bob

Jonathan and Bob, in my areas of New Hampshire and Vermont, thing are not and do not work the same as in other areas. That folks are use to the way things work when it comes to a Town or what might be called a City, as y'all are talking about. Looks like I'll have give Bob a call also.

Have a good one
Dale in New Hampshire

1:46pm • #54
392,851 Points 4 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

It looks like the post author's info will be prominently displayed, which is a good thing. Otherwise, I'd have to join the ranks of the 'grumps' (as labeled by Carla).

1:49pm • #55
268,958 Points 3 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

What is going to prevent people from posting material that is not related to the community?  That was a HUGE problem with Localism.  Agents would post anything and everything to a localism community, even when it had absolutely nothing to do with the area.  Will the sponsors be able to delete unrelated posts?

2:00pm • #56
163,867 Points 85 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Joetta,

Yes, making sure that the author of the organic content is prominently displayed was very important to us!

It should also be noted that all of the Community Pages represent brand new pages on ActiveRain, and with that comes additional consumer views that would not be gotten otherwise.  So even if a member does not sponsor any communities, this change should result in additional business. 

So this should be considered a win for everyone!

2:04pm • #57

Kathryn,

You can see what we define as a city by navigating to your state page, then selecting your County. The list of cities will then be on the left hand side of the page. You can see what our members have defined as communities by clicking on a certain city and looking on the left for a list of cities. In very small towns, we are going to have to evaluate how we allow members to sponsor pages. I don't know that we have a concrete answer right this minute. It's possible that each small town could be considered a community and therefor able to be sponsorsed.

Bob,

Currently the sponsors will not be able to delete unrelated posts. I agree that we need to find out some way to allow the community to police content that is placed in the wrong place. Of course, we can remove it if someone notifies us and we will. I think it Localism, the problem was more prevalent at the city level instead of the community level. Someone trying to spam usually doesn't want to limit their garbage to just one community when they could liter up a whole city.

2:10pm • #58
1,114,838 Points 71 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I guess we'll see on Wednesday how the communities that aren't within city limits will divide out...

2:11pm • #59
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Bob - if I pick 20 of the 25 communities, is that $19/mo total?

What I was saying is that I ATTEMPTED to be a Localism sponsor when I joined AR, but my city was already taken. It did not work like bidding on the hit router. So, I was SOL.

2:11pm • #60
244,051 Points 9 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

If I'm following this community sponsor thing -- if someone pays to sponsor one of the communities I post in (for example, https://activerain.com/states/NJ/cities/Bloomfield/communities/Whitestone%20Gardens%20Condominium%20Complex OR https://activerain.com/states/NJ/cities/Fairfield/communities/West%20Essex)

They will pay the monthly fee, show up "as the expert of the community" on the righthand side but the body of the post will remain the same and everyone will see that it's me who's doing the writing and obviously the sponsor is paying for that righthand exposure?   Our names and picture and whatever signature we use, will still be present to the public, right?

So someone can technically sponsor a community where they've never done business or ever wrote a blog about?  I don't see the benefit of that but I'm sure it can happen. 

****************

Second part, West Essex is made up of 8 communities if I created a community within each town, I would have to sponsor 8 communities of West Essex?  In North Caldwell, I created the West Essex Regional School District so that would be yet another sponsor I would have to pay for?  Is there any overlapping in monthly price allowed if its the SAME community??

 

Thanks!

2:19pm • #61
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Suh_weet

 

Nice

2:23pm • #62
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Jonathan- You stated that you moved the community pages onto the Active Rain Domain. That would mean that according to search engines- Active Rain is the author of community pages unlike Localism was on its' own domain, which meant that Localism was the author. Being that one author gets 2 spots from Google in SERPS on page one, I could get 2 from Active Rain and one or two from Localism and of course 2 from my website. But now with it all being on one domain- I am going to lose those two Localism spots. Or is there something I am missing? Katerina

2:24pm • #63
1,226,436 Points 262 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jon...

I am so excited I am beyond myself. One question though ... my city, Newnan is not listed among the default city links on the state page. How do I get it added?

2:25pm • #64
1,226,436 Points 262 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Oops...

Never mind. I just looked and it's there now! Whoo-hoo!

2:29pm • #65
531,237 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog

This is AWESOME !  Just another way Active Rain is taking another step forward

2:32pm • #66

So if I have this correct the sponsorship of a small neighborhood community by one agent then allows for them to be spread over to all of the communities in that city, but when you have 2 agents who sponsor a neighborhood then you have the city left alone.

Also Gina asked about the possibility of sponsoring a community where you have never posted, why not, you just let another agent do the foot work of creating the content that Google loves and then post yourself on top of their work. So if you are one of the agents that spends more money than time, you can benefit. I believe that there are some problems with how this is being set up. We have created all of the neighborhoods in our area, ALL OF THEM, and if we had created more then there would be more to charge us for... What happens to the cities where there have not been any neighborhoods created? Why are you doing this to your AR members who have so whole-heartedly pushed the Localism part of ActiveRain? I firmly believe that there has got to be a better way to set this up, we would be happy to help you with this if you would like, (this is a genuine offer, really) as it reads now I think you are going to end up with a series of problems and some very discouraged agents. Just my take, but we have seen this before.

2:35pm • #67
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I am on TEAM ACTIVE RAIN.  I have two Activerain T-shirts I won at Raincamp to prove this. :) 

However, I feel this latest "tool" is benefitting ActiveRain more than it's members as a whole, which is in direct contrast to what has built Active Rain and made it what it is today.

This "staking of the land" will benefit:

  1.  ActiveRain
  2. Whomever will be quickest on the draw. 

I'm not opposed to good change but since when did ActiveRain become eBay?  I may be missing something.  I'll wait to hear some more of the answers.

"Also Gina asked about the possibility of sponsoring a community where you have never posted, why not, you just let another agent do the foot work of creating the content that Google loves and then post yourself on top of their work."

 ^ What she said. 

****SEE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT #81****

 

 

2:43pm • #68
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So do we really have to wait until Wednesday ?

Also I noticed my city has a blank page.  I'm sure this will be corrected :)

2:45pm • #69
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I am still a little cornfused but I do love the new look!!  Will I have to be there to bid for the communities I already have on Localism or is it automatic and I am good to go?  My schedule is shot for the week and I don't want to have to rebid.

2:46pm • #70
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Great work Jonathan and the Rain Gods. One of the reasons I joined AR was because of your commitment to improving this platform. Thank you.

2:49pm • #71

Lori,

Communities are $19 per community. I'm sorry someone already had that sponsorship, I'm not sure how we could have had something in place to even the playing field in that instance.

Gina,

First part, you got it.

Second part. If you created 8 communities in a city and only sponsored one, then your info would rotate through the other 7. Someone else could lock up any of those seven, but if no one did, your info would rotate through those areas as the sponsor. If someone then locked up one of them, you and that person would rotate through the remaining six communities.

Is there overlapping in the monthly price if it's same community? I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Could you clarify?

2:54pm • #72
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Katerina,

We believe that these new community pages will rank for the searches where Localism.com did not. In some instances your content may not show up in 4 spots on the first page of Google where it had in the past. However, overall we believe this change will result in a large net increase in traffic for all of our members.

2:57pm • #73
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This seems all very cool, it would help me to figure out how to actually participate, if there was an easy method to find the steps to participate in one place, but that is one of my pet peeves with AR, there is so much information, that it is often nearly impossible to find what you are looking for.

 

I will try to sponser a few areas in my town, I better set my alarm clock

one question, can you sponsor only one month at the time, or can you book an area for longer periods at the time?

 

2:58pm • #74
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Renee, You are all set! You will not need to re-bid on the communities that you've already sponsored.

2:58pm • #75
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Whoa! In Tulsa, Riverview is blocks from Maple Ridge which is blocks from Terwilleger Heights which is blocks from Swan Lake which is blocks from Florence Park - I could spend $200/month on this. NOT in my budget!

3:00pm • #76
707,648 Points 36 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jonathan, I'm looking forward to the roll out I post quite a bit on the Localism platform and have kept my town active through sheer will...getting additional traction for my efforts will be a great thing...Thanks

3:01pm • #77
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Checked out my community-Barrington IL

Explore Barrington, IL * Arlington Heights * Barrington Hills * Braemar * Buffalo Grove * Carriage Trail * Cary * Chippendale * Deer Park * Downtown Region * Fairhaven * Forest Lake * Fox River Grove * Grayslake * Hainesville * Hawthorn Woods * Inverness * Johnsburg * Kildeer * Lake Barrington * Lake Barrington Shores * Lakemoor * Lakeview In Barrington * Lake Zurich * Local * Lochshire Of Barrington * Long Grove * Long Lake * North Barrington * Oakwood Hills * Pistakee Highlands * Port Barrington (fox River Valley Gardens) * Rolling Meadows * Round Lake * Shorely Woods * South Barrington * Steeplechase * Tower Lakes * Trout Valley * Volo * Wauconda

 

More than half of these have absolutely nothing to do with Barrington. Everything in bold is another town. This needs to be fixed before any sponsoring happens.

3:01pm • #78

Katerina,

Localism will remain in place for the time being. However, we believe that a new structure on ActiveRain will allow us to return results in the search engines that we were previously unable to obtain, therefor resulting in more traffic for everyone.

You could show up in three places for a less desireable search term, or in two places for a highly desireable one. Likewise, you could show up three times on page one, positions 3, 5 and 7. Or you could show up once in position #1. I would rather be in position one. We are confident the new changes will drive a lot more traffic to our members in the end.

Elizabeth,

I'll be back to address your concern in a moment. Let me answer some easier ones while I confirm one technical aspect of my response to you.

3:06pm • #79

Andi,

In terms of letting someone else do the legwork and then sponsoring their area, I would say this works much the same as google. If you have the money, you can just pay to have your content displayed in the sponsored results. Or, you can bust your butt and get your site to rank organically. Almost every successful online marketer that I know, that really makes money marketing their services and runs a serious business uses a combination of the two. They aim to get their content on the page, and they reinforce that content with paid advertising. Both avenues work, but the combination of the two is the most compelling.

You wrote:

"This latest tool is benefitting ActiveRain more than the members". Our benefit is to create revenue, your benefit is that we create additional pages on ActiveRain, that did not exist previously, that we believe will have a significant impact on the amount of traffic we generate for our members. It's called Quid Pro Quo, you do something for me, I do something for you. If you don't believe there is a balance between what you receive and what you give, I would not expect you to participate. We strive to provide that value so there is a good balance between the value we deliver and what people are willing to pay for that value, because in the end, just like you, we are a business and the servers don't stay humming without revenue to help pay for them.

3:12pm • #80
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Ok Jonathan, I think I'm catching up to you now. :)

The new Localism community page will be directly under the ActiveRain umbrella; therefore getting better traffic and exposure, as opposed to the current standalone Localism.com that doesn't have the AR juice behind it?   

Each member, whether they are a sponsor or not, will now have 4 ways of getting exposure.  1)  Activerain blog, 2)  the Outside blog, 3)  The Localism.com standalone blog, and 4)  the Localism community AR blog?

Again, 4 ways of getting exposure with one way in particular having a sponsored agent in your target area.  Do I have it right now? 

________

*ETA*

Bob, thanks!  I wasn't getting it at first that this was something in addition to what we already had.  I thought someone else's toothy grin was going to show up as a bigger photo on my Localism post.  But now I'm on the same page. :)

3:13pm • #81

Lori,

Let's say that there are 20 communities in your area and you just choose to sponsor 1. And two other agents each sponsor one. So there are three that are sponsored and 17 that are not. You each get to have exclusive sponsorship of the one you pay for, then for the other 17, the three of you rotate as the community sponsor for those areas, unless someone else comes in and sponsors it.

So with one sponsorship, you get exposure in all the unsponsored areas of your city.

Peter and Linda,

I completely understand that pet peeve you mentioned. I guess my only counter would be that we are all available to answer any questions you may have over the phone or via email. Please do not hesitate to contact me directly if you ever have questions about anything.

3:16pm • #82

Corinne,

This was a big issue when we first launched Localism. All the communities were input by our members. But you know what they say, garbage in, garbage out. I would assume that no one in your market would go in and sponsor a community that didn't make any sense (or wasn't in that city) so it's not 100% necessary to eliminate them prior to the sponsorships being available, since no one is likely to sponsor them.

When Localism launched, we decided the best way to deal with these wrong communities was through a process of atrophy. Essentially, the ones that were never used would shrink on the vine and die and the ones that were posted to more often would become more prevalent and get more exposure. That is how we continue to intend on dealing with communities that were created in error for now.

3:21pm • #84
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I'm confused! But what's new. I guess I'll check it all out when time allows. Good job with the launch.

3:33pm • #85
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I don't see many communities in Greater Cleveland, OH listed, including some that I blog about on a regular basis.  It's also a little confusing in that some of the "Explore Cleveland, OH" entries are actual neighborhoods in the City of Cleveland proper, while others are actual suburbs (ie. actual Cities or Towns) surrounding Cleveland, and only a fraction of them are listed, many are missing that I blog about.  Also, Canton is listed and it's 60 miles from Cleveland, so the organization is really messed up.

A good Hierarchy would be

1. State

1.1    Major Metro Area (say Cleveland)

1.1.1             neighborhoods

1.1.1.1              neighborhood #1 within the city

1.1.2             suburbs

1.1.2.1              suburb #1

1.1.2.1.1           neighborhood #1 within suburb #1

 

 

If there isn't any kind logical organization that makes sense, someone will be looking at an entry and not know if it's a neighbood within a suburb, a suburb itself, a neighborhood in the major city, etc.

I'm not saying this works for every major metro area, but based on the data I see, it's a mess right now and makes little sense from a consumer's viewpoint.

What additionally would be very cool would be to have a mapbased search/presentation as well.  If IDX vendors can do it, that would be helpful as well as a drill-down mechanism.

 

Not trying to be critical, just helpful...:)

 

3:59pm • #86
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Well, I've been replaced in Localism by a new member with no content.  I'm pretty sure that I bought Lovettsville/Loudoun County/Virginia.

A home inspector with no content is the only featured agents.

4:01pm • #87

Chris,

Thank you for the feedback. Currently, all the communities present are things that have been entered by our members. If there are communities/neighborhoods missing, it's because they have never been added. The ability to add new neighborhoods has been temporarily shut down for the time being. It will be restored so that users can enter missing communities.

If there are communities that should not be there, it is the result of an overzealous person entering them back when we awarded points for creating new communities. When we get through this and the smoke clears a little bit, I would be willing to have you help me get your market straightened out regarding what communities show up where, if you have the time.

Lenn,

I sent you an email after looking into your specific case to see if we can get it resolved.

4:15pm • #88
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J & B,

I'm not sure our county has been set up correctly ! We have 60 townships,boro's and municipalities. These encompass 16 school districts. Our population is 510,000.

The localism options are subdivision names (80 to 200 houses each !!!) I would have to buy 25 to 30 subdivisions(19.95 x30 =$600 per mo.) and still would not cover all of the 5,600 households in my township !!! Shouldn't we be bidding on either the entire twp. or school district rather than subdivisions !

4:35pm • #89
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Bob, from reading it sounds like I do not need to do anything on the ones I own. If I am wrong let me know.

However, one of mine is the World Golf Village. When I purchased it, the World Golf Village was listed twice. I purchased one. How do I get the other one removed so there are not two of us ending up owning the same one at the same time?

4:36pm • #90
314,804 Points 2 Featured Posts Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Hi Jonathan and Bob. I can see the execution is relatively painless but there are so many communities. Good for those who can afford to sponsor numerous communities. I anticipate some people's claws coming out soon LOL....

4:56pm • #91

School districts would be a great idea!  By the way on Sartell (and I stand corrected we did not add Sartell) is not a community in St Cloud, it is part of the St Cloud Metro area but still a separate city unto itself. Also we have 3 counties running through St Cloud, so there is that too. You used to give points for creating communities?

4:56pm • #92

Michael,

Technically, yes you would have to buy them all to secure them all. However, the more likely scenario, and the one I would suggest you consider is to purchase the most important one (or two or three) and secure that one. Then your information will show up in the other communities you do not sponsor in a round robin with anyone else that sponsors a community in that city.

Ted,

I can get that cleared up. Please send me a link to the correct one and the duplicate (let me know which is which) and I will get it resolved. Otherwise, yes you are correct, you don't currently have to do anything to secure your community on AR as long as you have it sponsored on Localism.

5:15pm • #93
1,180,449 Points 134 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

OK just checking because big popular master planned community sports my ugly mug slightly shaded out and says "sponsor big popular master planned community for $19/month".  Hopefully that's something pre-release because I want to have that opportunity to keep my ugly mug there!

5:37pm • #94
787,591 Points 20 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

We will cautiously observe for the moment - no desire to be trampled in the Gold Rush!

5:40pm • #95

Yes Renee, that is the pre-release shots of the screen. We will load all the Localism sponsorships on Tuesday night, so as long as you are sponsoring it on Localism, it will carry over.

Elizabeth,

School districts are certainly a way that someone could break down a city. I would imagine we have some cities on the site where users did exactly that. Yes, when we first launched Localism, we gave points as incentive for adding communities. As you can tell if you go through some areas, some people got completely out of control in an attempt to garner as many points as possible so we stopped awarding points.

5:52pm • #96
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Looks pretty cool. Congrats on the new project. Hope the transition went seamlessly.

7:26pm • #97
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Sorry, but I'm still confused.  I am paying for sponsorships of Fair Oaks and Orangevale California in Localism.  They are listed as cities. But these cities seem to show up as part of the city of Sacramento in communities, which they are not.  Both are in Sacramento County, but the county is huge and contains many more cities than just the city of Sacramento.  When I go to the community pages for Fair Oaks and Orangevale, I am being asked to purchase them.  Am I supposed to pay for both Localism and Communities? Or is someone else now going to be offered the community pages for those I am paying for in Localism?

7:37pm • #99
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I'll be on the webinar tomorrow but I don't get it.  Wake Forest was a "town" with NO communities so I was able to sponsor it - it was too small to be broken down.  It is still the same but now on the left there are BOATLAODS of communities - most of which I created when I had listings and had to enter a subdivision.  So, essentially, I created my own nightmare in Wake Forest?  I no longer will have Wake Forest but will have to have all the communities?  And, how can we clean up some of the communities?  Posts from 3 years ago are the most recent and a few that I notice that aren't even subdivisions.  Questions, questions, questions.......  ;)

Wake Forest NC House Chick

7:46pm • #100
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I think it would be valuable to the consumer if the date of the blog post was displayed.  So many are time-sensitive and having that bit of information could be important.  Otherwise, great!

8:00pm • #101
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They look great and I like the idea.

What is confusing me is what are communities within cities? I have a bunch of towns around me so not sure what that would mean to me if I sponsored one?

8:17pm • #102
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wow ... I have spent an hour reading all the comments soooo I look forward to the class!

8:23pm • #103
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Pippa #103 - did I miss something? Is there a class on this?

8:43pm • #106
267,645 Points Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router

I love the idea!  Can't wait to get going and add more content!  Thanks guys!!!!!!!!

8:50pm • #107
658,768 Points 44 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

I do have a few questions as well. In southern Utah, we have several so called "communities" from as little as 8 houses to less than 100 in most cases. Most are sold out. SunRiver is an exception at 1,000 homes. So what is the advantage in my area? We are defined by small cities instead of communities, how will that work?

8:55pm • #108
168,842 Points 1 Featured Post Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

We're on it! This sounds A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Localism but I'm glad its not replacing it.

9:00pm • #109
881,493 Points 210 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

so.,..I think I'm good to go...my accounts on Localism will transfer over....right?

9:16pm • #110
546,519 Points 11 Featured Posts

Happy to help anytime Bob, just holler -- it will be a win-win for all parties, and most importantly, consumers in Greater Cleveland.

9:38pm • #111
192,158 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

I'm still a little confused! I'm currently sponsoring 5 communities including the city of St. Clair Shores, yet your saying no one sponsors cities right now? So will I still sponsor St Clair Shores, or will I have to claim it?  I'll sign up for the webinar.

Also, the neighborhoods under Saint Clair Shores are not accurate, will this be cleaned up. Somebody added some of them way back when the first localism was launched. Some are duplicate neighborhoods/links with nothing on there. Others are neighborhoods that are from totaly different cities.

 

9:43pm • #112
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Thanks for the clarification and great questions eveyone. i'm looking forward to signing up.

9:57pm • #113

I will answer all these questions in the upcoming webinars:

http://activerain.com/blogsview/1777628/come-learn-about-the-recent-launch-of-activerain-community-pages

10:33pm • #115
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So, I'm guess that the "city" I've been sponsoring for the last couple of years on Localism is going to be unsponsorable? It just wouldn't pay to sponsor subdivisions for $19/mo. 

11:01pm • #116
217,274 Points 1 Featured Post Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I look forward to learning how this works!

11:35pm • #117
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Glad to read that the page width is consistent with ActiveRain. What will happen to all of the photos that were on Localism?

11:39pm • #119

John,

We have those photos stored and we are looking for the best way to incorporate them into the new pages. I think that is a few steps away still.

11:46pm • #120
754,282 Points 7 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Areas should be:

  • Alderson
  • Anthony Creek District,
  • Blue Sulphur District,
  • Durbin
  • Edray District,
  • Elk River,
  • Falling Spring District
  • Forest Hill,
  • Fort Spring District,
  • Frankford District,
  • Green Sulphur District,
  • Greenbank District,
  • Greenbrier,
  • Hillsboro
  • Hinton District,
  • Huntersville District,
  • Irish Corner District,
  • Jumping Branch,
  • Lewisburg
  • Little Levels District,
  • Marlinton Corp
  • Meadow Bluff District,
  • Monroe County,
  • Peterstown
  • Pipestem
  • Quinwood
  • Rainelle
  • Red Sulphur,
  • Ronceverte
  • Rupert
  • Second Creek,
  • Snowshoe
  • Springfield,
  • Sweet Springs,
  • Talcott,
  • Union
  • White Sulphur Springs
  • Williamsburg District,
  • Wolfcreek

11:50pm • #121
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It sounds like a great idea...but a true disappointment for all of us who were booted out of sponsoring our neighborhoods in Localism because the highest point makers were given the ability to claim all of the communities they wanted, which they did. It left all of us with even slightly lower points completely out of participating. It sure would be nice if a person could only select one area, giving us all a chance to represent our neighborhood.  There is a high point person who claimed the neighborhood I sell in even though she has never sold in it.  It doesn't seem fair for one person to claim 10-20 neighborhoods and others to get nothing.  Sour grapes? Maybe...but I sure would have like a chance that I will never get.

11:54pm • #122
AUG
03
2010
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Sounds very interesting, I am going to try to be on one of the webinars. 

10:58am • #124
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Let's get to the webinar...I am sure we all have lots of questions.

11:01am • #125
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Jonathan - I do have a few questions but I can see that you are bombarded with a deluge of questions on this post. I'm confident your webinar for tomorrow will cover my questions in detail. Thanks for sharing this information.

11:30am • #126
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Good morning,

I have made it through all of the comments and what I felt was very exciting at first has turned into a minor disappointment.  One of the comments above seemed to make a lot of sense to me.  It is possible for a person to sponsor a neighborhood in which they have never blogged about or even sold a home in.  This is difficult for me to understand.  At a minimum, it seems that to sponsor a community there should have been basic minimum requirements, like you have blogged about the community at least once in the past 30 days, or something like that.  It is too easy for someone to claim to be a specialist in an area and not even know the zip code of the community.  Trust me, I have seen this exact example first hand.  I think it would have made even more sense to at least offer the sponsorship to the top contributor and maybe worked your way down through the Top few before making it available.  These are the agents who have contributed up until now, who care enough about the community to contribute and might have no options. 

I also think that the Localism offer could have been kept seperate from the Active Rain Community Pages, and still been effective and given everyone a level playing field and a shot at getting the community.  They are two different sites.  I sure hope you have no plan to do away with Localism???

I am a huge fan of Active Rain, teach all of the agents in our brokerage to use the service, suggest they all sign up for a Rain Maker account, etc.  I like Localism and even tried to sponsor a community a few months ago, but for some reason was unable to.  I just let it go and figured I would get back to it.   

Anyways, I specialize in a few communities, I am the Featured Agent in our very competitive city, meaning I have more points than anyone, and I have no chance of getting the communities I am honestly the top agent in.  Without hesitation I was going to pay the $19 per month for each community.  Right now it is not an option, so I am frustrated and disappointed.

Thanks.

11:42am • #127
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One additional comment to my last statement.

They really are two different products.  I monitor traffic from both sources and put more value in the Active Rain side of the product.  Not to say i do not value the traffic from Localism, I get good traffice from it.  i think you may have said Active Rain might get 2,500,000 visitors per month and Locaclism 250,000 per month - sorry if I am wrong on this.

Spensoring a community on Localism was always an option, but the return was not going to be as great as what you are offering now.  Sponsoring a community on Active Rain would be a no-brainer for me.  Sponsoring a community on Localism was a financial decision based on return. 

I really wish the two products would have been treated and offered separately from each other.  They are distinctly different with totally different values...

11:47am • #129
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David - I have to agree on a lot of what you say - kind of. I visited all my local pages last night and I am the ONLY agent with posts on any of them. I am not going to spend $ 19 a month for each of  them, it is too rich for my budget right now. I am going to pick the top 1 or 2 for that.

But, my feeling is that even if my face is not the one on top, if I am the only one with any content I should get most of the contacts anyway. Whoever winds up on that page is more than likely going to click on some of the posts, and who will they see there. Me!

Just my 2 cents. 

11:52am • #130
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Donna,

I thought you should have been given first crack at it is all.  I am the top poster also for many communities in Gilbert Arizona, but I would not have purchased them all either...  Thanks for the comment to my comment...

12:04pm • #131
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David - I agree with you. Should be one of the benefits of being an active user.

12:10pm • #132
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I would love to understand the demographics of the ActiveRain community, i.e. % that are Realtors and breakdown of others like myself, the owner of a handyman business. I cover 90 zip codes and market to about 15 of them ... but my jobs start at $124 with the hope that there will be repeat business.

As you roll out more & more features for Realtors, I wonder when you're going to give the others an opportunity to play.  

12:32pm • #133
577,905 Points 15 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Bob, I'm wondering if those who have free sponsorships on Localism will now be required to pay for the communities that they sponsored on the new community pages.

2:05pm • #134
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It does not appear the geography of Active Rain has been mapped out very well....not with any consistency.  That is going to make this hard to administer.

 

I assume you are still going to use the various Localism subdivisions to syndicate/assign posts to these new AR "communities".  Is this true?

 

In my area, the "communities" within the two largest cities are actually MLS market areas - areas that are geographically distinct or simply large enough to justify historical sale statistics being derived separately by the MLS. They are identical to the the local newspaper's classified advertising areas.

On average, they each have a population of about 20,000.

 

Outside of those two major cities, within the same county, are 10 smaller incorporated cities with populations ranging from 500 to 11,000.  Nearly every one of those has its own school district that extends into the surrounding rural area.  There are many other unincorporated towns, each with its own zip code. 

These outlying communities are divided by the Regional MLS into 8 market areas, some of which include two incorporated cities.

But at the coastal end of the county is one city with 7500 population but a half-dozen MLS and Localism "communities".

 

So when you say cites aren't for sale, just communities - you are applying terminology that is very imprecise to a data set that is highly variable.

And yet you are quoting one price that simply doesn't fit all.

 

I appreciate that you intend to let us sort that all out by buying the "communities" we think are (most) valuable to us.  We can probably do that.

In my larger cities buying a "community" would be roughly equivalent to buying a zip code (as is offered by REALTOR.com or Zillow).  In that context, having the automatic round-robin in the unsold "communities" will be helpful.

In my outlying areas, buying a city would be rational (though less valuable).  But you apparently don't intend to offer that.  You should.  And you should offer the same round-robin benefit in other nearby rural areas.  That might make buying a rural community both possible and worthwhile.

 

But as you go about your strategy, you need to know that you have 335 members here....but I am the only one consistently doing any hyper-local posts. I do that in 19 MLS market areas every month - eight in Eugene, three in Springfield, eight elsewhere in Lane County.  If I am willing to buy 2-3, you need to find a way to round-robin me into the remainder.

How can I help you help me?

 

2:16pm • #135
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Interesting to say the least, but I'm going to hold off for a bit.  If it takes off I'll certainyl sign up, but localism sponsorships were disappointing, and I don't want to waste money here.

2:46pm • #136
415,227 Points 30 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I can't figure out how to get to the community pages...do I have to log out of ActiveRain??

3:58pm • #137

I hope a ton of your questions were answered in today's webinar.  If not, please make sure to register for tomorrow's webinar at 10am PDT at https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/899084697/.

8:20pm • #138
144,518 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I'm a little confused, this sounds just like Localism and I never thought that it was being well supported. I hope this works better but I don't think I am going to jump on board sponsoring it until I see it in operation and supported.

8:49pm • #140

Christa,

Very good observation and I agree. Localism was not supported in the fashion we had hoped to support it. Bringing this content into ActiveRain gives us the ability to dedicate more resources to making it great.

You'll already notice that the column of the ActiveRain community page closely matches the width of the regular blog column, whereas the Localism colun was much more narrow.

From a traffic perspective, we believe that having the content on the ActiveRain domain in this format will greatly increase the traffic our members receive to their posts.

9:05pm • #141
425,065 Points 22 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

Jon, This is Great Long Overdue. I am excited, this truly looks great, clean and hopefully will generate the traffic which will ultimately lead to business for all. Thank you for your hard work.

9:33pm • #142
323,509 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Called Shot Master

I'm sure you answered this question already, but I still need some clarification:

I am a sponsor right now for a city. I will be allowed to sponsor a community at the thank you rate of $9 for one community. Anything after that will be $19, right?

How do I ensure I get one of the communities in the city I was sponsoring? Or do I just do the mad dash thing with everyone else? I'm sure I will be fine, but I am concerned none-the-less.

Thank you for all of your answers.

9:56pm • #143
1,180,449 Points 134 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I saw that this is rolled out for those of us who have sponsored localism for the long haul.  It is absolutely beautiful and a great plan as I attended the webinar today and I got the whole vision and long term plan of it.  I see that cities can come up high in searches all of the time but not necessarily the content you are looking for.  This seems to be a great solution and I can't wait to see results in the next month for SEO.  I am excited to get my communities up and running but am tired right now!  May have to do that at raincamp :)

Thanks y'all for always making this site better!

10:48pm • #145
734,092 Points 136 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

'Looking forward to the Webinar tomorrow.  'Glad to hear that our Localism sponsorships will carry over!  My husband and I literally drove all night en route home from Texas so we could be home in time for the big "land rush" last year to buy those cities.  We still didn'[t make it, and I ended up online at a Barnes & Noble somewher in Virginia.  Another Activerain memory!

10:50pm • #146
957,962 Points 97 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

OK, once again AR will be interrupting my listing, selling and settlements so that I can take time to attend a learning session that will probably increase my listing, selling and settlements.

Going to sign up for Wednesday.

Margaret

11:09pm • #148
608,871 Points 26 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I was a newbie when Localism launched and just barely missed out because of points, but as time went on, the communities came available. If a sponsor doesn't post about the community, I think it won't garner them very much business. Buyers seek out the ones who actually write about the communities, not the ones who just sponsor them.

I'm very excited about this new feature, Jonathan and Bob!

11:13pm • #149
611,953 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Looking around at other counties in our state they do have larger area's under a town ! West Chester,PA. is set up like my area should be ! No one really did much with our county and I think numerous unsaleable options exist ! Is there any way we could RECONFIGURE our primary markets !  I 'm simply asking for what already exists in other states and counties !!!

11:15pm • #150
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323,509 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Called Shot Master

Ok I think I answered my own question above. I didn't want to waste your time when you could be helping someone else out.

12:09am • #151
268,941 Points 2 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

I'm going to have to look into this a little more as it looks very interesting. The one issue that I have seen is that Sharpsburg is a city in the same county as Newnan. It is not a neighborhood in Newnan.  

12:34am • #152
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Set your alarms and let the Active Rain Land Gold Rush begin!

12:59am • #153
323,673 Points 9 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I like Community Pages -- although I am confused-- I better read this again and a bit closer.  Wednesday at noon.... where will I be?

2:36am • #155
323,673 Points 9 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I like Community Pages -- although I am confused-- I better read this again and a bit closer.  Wednesday at noon.... where will I be?

2:36am • #156
323,673 Points 9 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I like Community Pages -- although I am confused-- I better read this again and a bit closer.  Wednesday at noon.... where will I be?

2:36am • #157
323,673 Points 9 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

sorry I have no idea why my post posted 3 times how strange.

2:42am • #158
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Okay, Renee just took care of a few questions that I had. I hope I can figure it out from here but you may be getting a phone call from me if I can't.

This looks like it could be a wonderful new feature.

(If Renee thinks she has an ugly mug - she is in dire need of a mirror...)

 

6:59am • #159
390,979 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Lots of questions answered, have signed up for the webinar but here's my decision. I never want anyone else to muscle in on my territory so I will buy my prime communities regardless. Every community now page marked ready to pull my trigger. That way I am the sponsor for the communities where my posts are prolific.

9:16am • #160
680,602 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I will have to go check ou the city pages on Active Rain! I think consumers are finding us here more and more often!

9:34am • #161
137,304 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Called Shot Master

I'm confused - I have been paying the $19 for some time - but I cannot find a community page for me!

In GA - neither Madison, or Lake Oconee, or Georgia's Lake Country - can be found.  There are a number of fairly active rainers out here - will we be getting a community page?

10:31am • #162

Can you please post a link to where we search for our state, city & neighborhood?

(FL: Palm Beach County)

Thanks!!

Susanna Grubb
11:02am • #163
111,930 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

so confused cannot find this as to where to sign up to sponsor and Highland Park Il is not listed.....

11:07am • #164
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Hi guys ... I understand that you can't sponsor a "CITY" but only communities within that City.  For Los Angeles, though, it looks like some cities are listed as communities and vice-versa.  How did this get set up?  For example, I would like to sponsor TARZANA, which you have listed as a CITY and therefore I can't sponsor it.  However, you have a bunch of other cities listed as communities.  Seems rather confusing?!

-- Danny

11:30am • #165
107,181 Points

Really good this   Bookmarked it and emailed it to my friends

11:36am • #166
107,181 Points

Really good this   Bookmarked it and emailed it to my friends

11:36am • #167
2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Like Lenn said above, same problem here. I had a bunch of sponsored areas that are all gone no and sponsored by others. How did that happen? Please check on that thanks.

11:58am • #168
815,674 Points 7 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Sounds very leading edge and I am getting my localism page turned into the Community Page.

12:02pm • #169
263,147 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Called Shot Master

I'm confused also....I have tried to sponsor Elk Grove, CA  but don't even see it on the list of available areas.  I have been an active member of Localism and sponsored Elk Grove prior to this but cannot figure this out.  Please help!

12:05pm • #170
263,147 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Called Shot Master

I'm confused also....I have tried to sponsor Elk Grove, CA  but don't even see it on the list of available areas.  I have been an active member of Localism and sponsored Elk Grove prior to this but cannot figure this out.  Please help!

12:05pm • #171
105,500 Points 2 Featured Posts

Not really keen on it folks. The blog approach for these pages may or may not be a good idea, but it seems like a duplication of information already on AR at the expense of the more democratic posting of all the agents info in a way thats actually readable.  

The tiny agent thumbnails on these pages offer no easily accessible information about members and offer no incentive to investigate further. You should probably just remove this feature and replace it with advertising.

Is this an admission that Localism is a failure because so few agents were posting there and so few local sponsorships were sold? So now you're moving the idea over to the 'states/agents' pages, auto posting the blogs and pitching sponsorships here instead?

Though the details may vary, this seems like the same approach that Realtor (and Trulia & Zillow) are using... promoting the interests of those who pay over those who don't. I've tried 'sponsorships' on other national websites and it hasn't worked for me.

Established AR members who blog a lot are still represented under the new system, and the top two agents in every location still get a big push (as always,) but the rest are pretty much left in the dust.

The new leader board seems like a bust too. The entries here are too small as well. They're completely inaccesible and provide no agent info without clicking. I used to look at it all the time for some reason... now it's just a point tally and the complete list isn't even available to the public.

The new look is good and there's probably some merit to what you're doing with AR. Members should have to participate to benefit and it's OK to try new things, but not at the expense of the rank and file.

12:18pm • #172
238,989 Points 2 Featured Posts

How do we make sure hyperlocal posts get added to the Community Pages?  Is there something we have to click on when we create a post?  Or, will Localism posts automatically get posted to its appropriate community page?  I'm wondering how this works for posts I create for my clients.  Please advise.  I like the look of the community pages much more than the Localism pages as well.

12:40pm • #174
548,980 Points 110 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Oh Boy...

Another RainBaby. I think we'll let this one simmer and see where it goes :)

TLW...ROAR!

1:18pm • #175
535,731 Points 25 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

Where do I find Gananoque, On?  My market, my town and no community within it.

1:43pm • #176
258,379 Points Outside Blog

Too refined as to area to sponsor. In my city(s) in order to cover both, I would need to "sponsor" 10 "area's" just because agents "created" area's with their own names, myself included, some of whic have no defined boundries like a city does. I have a tendency to agree with TLW above.

2:16pm • #177

Jon and Bob-

Looks like it is a busy day at the office... Excited to attend the webinar tomorrow! :)

2:51pm • #178

Looking for Wrightsville Beach/Wilmington, NC, please.

2:59pm • #179

Listened to your webinar on Community Pages this afternoon. What a great concept. Will you be putting out written procedures on how to create communty pages? Looking forward to getting my "community page" up and running.

Jill Klunk
3:03pm • #180
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I'm confused too. A bookmark or link would be helpful, cannot locate my community.

3:10pm • #181
354,908 Points 59 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Looking for Wrightsville Beach/Wilmngton, NC, please.

3:11pm • #182

I would like to book 85253, 85255

Tricia Lehane
3:20pm • #183

Will you add communities in other countries like Mexico soon?

Will be great to have them also.

Greetings

Luis Miranda

3:23pm • #184

Hello, I would like to book 80021, 80020

 

Thank You!

 

Steve Robertson

3:49pm • #185

can't seem to find the link to sign up...i already have localism.  I would like to book 82009, 82001

connie webb
4:00pm • #186
104,014 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router

Got the email and right at Noon I tried Santa Cruz County at came  up with nothing. I cannot even find the towns like Felton, Boulder Creek & Scotts Valley either. Spent an hour and need guidance to be on Community Pages

4:03pm • #187
453,374 Points 15 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Will have to see more, but overall looks exciting!  Especially the part about more google juice....

Just one question though.  I don't see builders showing up under the "real estate professionals" column on the right, even though loan officers, inspectors, stagers, etc are there.

http://activerain.com/states/NC/cities/Raleigh

Am I missing something?

4:14pm • #188

This night be somewhat like Zillow and Trulia where they sell areas to agent's who don't have many properties listed in the area. The public is smarter than that. If they see that one agent dominates the market by having the largest number of listings that is the agent most likely to be contacted. I have found that to be the case with them, I have the majority of the listings within the zip code. I do not pay to be featured and I recieve email inquiries

4:15pm • #189
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I don't think this is going to work too well, at least in my area.  Our "communities" are subdivisions with anywhere from 3 to 500 homes.  Even if I chose one of the larger ones, $19 a month is a lot to spend on such a limited audience.  But good luck to the rest of you!

4:16pm • #190

Where do I find out how to sponsor Anthem AZ? - Scott Holland

4:49pm • #191
145,725 Points 4 Featured Posts

I agree with Glenda (#190), and I wrote a similar comment on another post.  Most of our subdivisions are old and blended together and no one asks for a particular subdivision when doing a search (I'm sure there has been a buyer out there that wanted a specific subdivision, but in 27 years I've never met one).  They search in towns, the largest towns in my area have around 50,000 residents in them.  To break those towns up into subdivisions that are small and no one searches for them is not worth paying for.

If I could sponsor one of the cities for $19.00/mo. I would consider it.  But a crummy little subdivision that buyers don't care about - not worth it.  To back that up my town doesn't even have communities created so there's nothing for me to sponsor.  I guess that's because we don't search by communities in my area.  Duh!

4:57pm • #192

Judy and Glenda, I don't agree that people do not search for sub divisions online. I contend that the closer they get to actually purchasing something, the more specific their searches become. 5 years ago you couldn't find information about a sub-division if you tried. Now, with the advent of hyper local blogging, information is available down to this level.

Go ask Debe Maxwell if buyers look for specific sub divisions. She is closing business as a result of writing about them. Buyers online searching are finding her when they are much closer to actually buying.......they know exactly where they want to live. She is getting traffic and clients because of writing about specific condo buildings. We have hundreds of members that are attracting buyers (and sellers) with posts about specific sub divisions.

I will agree that they search in towns......but those people are on average 8 months from buying something. When they start to search at a community level, our research shows (granted that research was limited to our brokerage over a two year period in Western Washington) that they buy in half that amount of time, 4 months.

There are a lot of members here that will tell you that if they find you because of a post you did about a sub division, those folks are REALLY close to actually making a purchase decision. So what would you rather have, ten 'internet leads' who all searched for 'homes for sale (in your city). Or one person who contacted you directly because they searched out a specific sub division and found your content about that area?

The person looking for info about the specific sub division is going to be much more likely to buy in the next 30-60 days.

5:19pm • #193

I have no idea how to even find these pages...how do I find out if my area is taken or not?  And if I can't find them how do consumers?

5:22pm • #194

All of that being said, if you only sponsor one sub division (synonymous with community or neighborhood) in your city, and no one else sponsors any, you will be displayed as the sponsor for all the unclaimed communities as well. If there are two of you sponsoring one each in a city, then the two of you will rotate and display on the unclaimed communities.

If one of you has four communities sponsored and one has one, then you will rotate on the unclaimed communities at the same ratio as your sponsorships, with the person having four showing up four times (in the unclaimed areas) for every one time you show up.

In many cases, folks will be able to sponsor one community in their market and rotate through the others free of charge.

If your area is so small that it makes no sense to sponsor a community, then I would ask that you hang tight for if/when we release city level sponsorships for smaller areas.

5:23pm • #195
535,731 Points 25 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Called Shot Master

Bob -  I too have to disagree with you and your findings.  That may work for a large city but not for the smaller cities, towns and villages in my area.  I can't even find my town of Gananoque.   Kingston Ontario does not have communties either even tho you've tried to break it down into many many sections which our MLS doesn't even do!   I'm not yet a fan :(

5:26pm • #196

Meredith,

In order to find your area, go up the top of most any page on ActiveRain and click on the 'states' link. That will present a drop down with all the state abbreviations. Click on your state. If you are in a popular area (meaning there is a lot of content in your city) your city will appear in the list of cities on the left hand side of the page.

If you are in a city with less content, you will need to scroll down and select the appropriate county. From the county page then, you will find a list of cities on the left. Clicking on the city page will bring you to that city page and a list of communities will be displayed on the left. Clicking on any of the communities will take you to that community.

Consumers will find the page by going to Google and typing in that name of that community (possibly in conjunction with 'homes for sale' or 'real estate' or other desireable keyword phrases that let Google know they are looking for information similar to what our members are providing)

5:27pm • #197

Susan,

If your smaller towns, cities or villages don't have sub divisions (or desired areas that people identify with) then I agree with you, no one is going to search for them. In this case, it would be best to hang tight until if/when we release sponsorships at a city level.

5:39pm • #198

Yeah, I'm hanging tight for city sponsorships...$29 for a community of 100 homes seems a little crazy to me.  There are way too many communities I'd need to pony up $29 for in order to get any sort of coverage.

5:56pm • #199
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

I cant find where to sign up-- feel like I missed the boat even though I have had localism for years

 

 

 

7:25pm • #200
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

I cant find where to sign up-- feel like I missed the boat even though I have had localism for years

 

 

 

7:25pm • #201
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

I cant find where to sign up-- feel like I missed the boat even though I have had localism for years

 

 

 

7:25pm • #203

I would like Leander, Texas 78641 but did not see it on there.

7:32pm • #204

OK...I give up..where do you find the available community pages ???

John Gorden
8:06pm • #207

OK...I give up..where do you find the available community pages ???

John Gorden
8:06pm • #208
306,619 Points 17 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Called Shot Master

Sponsoring and focusing on the neighborhood that you want to do business in will bring you new business.

Buyers are googling neighborhoods by name as well as by descriptions - making early decisions as to where they want to buy - when they are ready, they know who to call.  These calls are from NOW buyers.  They are ready to buy - they have done their homework......and found you - you are the sponsor/'expert.'

Potential Sellers are googling their own neighborhood to see who is the 'expert'.  Is it you?

Google loves neighborhood info.

I sponsor the best selling neighborhood in my small city - for the last year or so.

Great results from Localism - I expect even more with the new community page.

When you sponsor a neighborhood, make sure to have a bit of info (keywords) about the neighborhood on your AR profile - increases your Google juice.

I am having a good year.  Thanks, AR!

8:38pm • #209
163,886 Points 8 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

I have read through as many of these responses as I can....I guess I'm confused! I had a couple of sponsorships on Localism that were set up. Alexandria and Pineville. Can you check on them and let me know if I still have them. They are each communities in Central Louisiana. Sorry to trouble you, I just want to make sure I still have them. Thanks, Paige

9:57pm • #210
553,669 Points 8 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

So let me get this straight.  I have 3 localism communities that I am currently paying for.  These are cities that I purchased.  Now, I will not be able to purchase the city, but a subdivision instead?  Is there a way to transfer my old paid localism cities to the new community pages?

10:10pm • #211

I paid for sponsorship of La Canada California, but it does not show up on the side of any of the pages. I also paid for Northwest Glendale California which does show up.  Why is La Canada not showing up? Please advise.

thanks,

Sue Eller

Dilbeck Real Estate

La Canada Flintridge Ca 91011

11:01pm • #212
200,475 Points 57 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Ok, maybe I'm just really blonde this evening or something but I'm still confused.  :)  Leave it to me. (Sorry guys.)  So, the localism community sponsorships transfer over and it's $9/month for those.  Are we going to pay $9 localism + $9 AR per community?  Or just $9/month for AR communities?  I'm so confused.

P.S.  I love the idea of having the communities on the AR side a ton better and they look fantastic. Thanks Guys.

11:26pm • #213
200,475 Points 57 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Ok, maybe I'm just really blonde this evening or something but I'm still confused.  :)  Leave it to me. (Sorry guys.)  So, the localism community sponsorships transfer over and it's $9/month for those.  Are we going to pay $9 localism + $9 AR per community?  Or just $9/month for AR communities?  I'm so confused.

P.S.  I love the idea of having the communities on the AR side a ton better and they look fantastic. Thanks Guys.

11:26pm • #214
340,507 Points 65 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Bob: you may think that people shop for subdivisions, but that may reflect your direct experience in newer areas rather than the practice in many communities. Judy Orr is 100% correct -- many of the older subdivisions and areas have platted names, but NO ONE asks for those names. For example, I live in the 96 home subdivision called Aintree -- maybe 10 or 15 square miles (bigger lots) which was a subdivision created in the 1970s -- which now borders the larger community area called Hunt Club. To get to my street, you have to go through stone pillars engraved "Hunt Club", and yet we are not part of Hunt Club. Hunt Club (master plan) in turn is made up of subdivisions called Hunt Club, Hunter's Fields, Hunter's Woods and probably a couple of others within a few miles of my house which I can't name. The Hunt Club area also opens to the Persimmon Woods and Persimmon Fields legal subdivisions. This is maybe a fifty square mile area of a couple of thousand homes. NO ONE asks for any of these communities by name -- they ask for price points on the east side of St. Charles. Some of these subdivisions may have small wooden signs at the entrance, but they are all considered "east side of St. Charles".

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP of aligning expertise with subdivision names. That is about as 1970s as you can get with real estate thinking. Do this and we'll be back to mailing out potholders. Buyers rarely care about a subdivision name anymore. Many of the most innovative community developers are deliberately moving away from positioning as a community name with a single branded image.

11:27pm • #215
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200,475 Points 57 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Maybe it's a regional AKA hyper local thing then because people still ask and search for communities down here.  We also still do *gasp* geographic farming with recipes and all.

12:00am • #216

Leslie

I'm just telling you what I've seen based on five years of generating and converting leads in four states, Washington State, Maryland, Virginia and California. We had a site that generated over 300 leads a day in those four states. In the year 2005 we know that people who used hyper local terms closed 4 times as fast as people that used city terms.

I also have the experience of a website that generates 2.5 million visitors every month. I have access to see exactly what those consumers are typing in the search engines that ultimately lands them on ActiveRain. If you don't believe they are typing in the names of sub divisions, you are wrong. I don't know what else to say on this matter.

If you want to continue to claw and scratch to make headway on the keyword phrases that relate to your city, I know you can do it. There are lots of people that have climbed their way to the top of the search engines by creating great content and using solid SEO techniques. (Many of them are using AR to link back to their site and build up the inbound links). But if you want to target buyers that are much closer to buying something than a traditional buyer, writing about sub-divisions, communities, condo complexes....really anything more granular than a city is what you want to be doing.

Let's only talk about the last 4 years, since prior to that there was no information online about sub divisions. So prior to four years ago, of course no one asked about them, they had no idea what they were called or the difference between the two. However, with the advent of blogging as a way to sell homes, and more developed IDX platforms that display additional fields, buyers looking through different areas are very aware of exactly what they want. If they've looked at 100 homes online, and they like 5 that they've seen and they know 4 of those 5 are in Persimmon Fields........what do you think they're going to do the next time they go back to Google to do a search? They are going to search for Persimmon Fields.

It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, I look at our Google Analytics every day and I see thousands of these types of searches every day. If we had all of our members writing this kind of content I would see a lot more of these types of searches.......why? Because they would be finding your blog post about Persimmon Fields. But you don't think are they searching for that, so you don't write about it. That's alright, someone will and that will be the person they find.

12:03am • #217

Paige,

Are these cities/towns or are they designated as communities?

12:04am • #218

Betty,

Leander is a city (or town, I'm using them synonymously) if I'm not mistaken. Cities are not available to be sponsored.

Stephanie,

You will just pay $9 once, and that will get you both the Localism sponsorship you had previously and the new AR community page sponsorship. This only holds for those that were previously sponsoring Localism communities.

12:07am • #219
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I'm sorry, but I find this all very confusing. And of course, I was on the road today, and the communities I cover within my city have already been snatched up by other Realtors. There are so many posts and comments here, that I find it hard to figure out how this is all going to work. First impression is that whoever sponsors that particular community gets all the credit because they have their pretty picture on the site while potential buyers read the content that other hard working Realtors post (instead of silly blogs to fellow Realtors to increase ranking).
On another post somebody mentioned you are planning to do City sponsorships next - so then somebody will have their face plastered to cover the entire city, just because they were faster to make another monthly payment? I think this development is heading towards rewarding the ones who are willing to pay more rather than rewarding the ones that actually submit significant content ...
But I guess I'll have to play along, off to find a neighborhood worth covering ...

12:16am • #220
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I'm having trouble getting the pictures resized to 960x440 for the marquee photo.  Any suggestions?

1:42am • #222
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Bob: Thanks for taking the time to respond, because we have been wrestling with this in ways that extend past blogging. In fact, I spent an hour on the phone two days ago with the webmaster of the city of St. Charles on this topic. The question is, how do you promote an area that may or may not be defined by subdivisions?

The big names subdivisions are easy: "Royal Fox Golf Course" or "Majestic Oaks" or "Fox Mill" or "Eaglebrook" (all of which I bought last night, plus a few others, I think. Gave the visa a workout). They have identities that can be captured and described. They have HOAs with websites. Agents are likely to enter the subdivision name into the field so searches can find these homes.

But we struggle with creating snappy descriptions for "areas": "East of the River  and South of Main Street" isn't very evocative, and frankly no one would use that as a search term.

Oh well, if it was easy it wouldn't be called work.

 

 

11:16am • #224
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Bob this is Paige once again. I'm not sure what you classify as a community. Under the 'old' Localism, I had Pineville, Pollock, Woodworth and Rapides and am being charged $36 by AR for the last several months. Yesterday while looking at all of this I decided to cancel Woodworth. Now the population of these towns is about 14,000 Pineville, 800 Pollock and Rapides is the Parish(county)at 133K. I would think that Pineville and Pollock would qualify as communities, but you tell me. I am guessing I just need to cancel my Rapides Parish, it was an option under Localism but sounds like it's not now. I want to make sure I hold on to Pineville, LA and don't lose it in all the changes. Thanks so much, Paige.

1:46pm • #225
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Bob, regarding your comment to me and Judy (#193), I have to disagree.  I've been working with buyers for almost 10 years and very few tailor their searches to specific subdivisions - even those that are close to buying.  Regardless of what your statistics are saying (and, remember, 99% of statistics are made up on the spot ... lol!) that's just not the way buyers search ... not in Northern Virginia.  

You say, "I contend that the closer they get to purchasing something, the more specific their searches become."  Even if that were true, I want to talk to these buyers when they're *starting* their search.  By the time they get that specific, they've most likely already selected their agent.

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the searches for specific neighborhoods are coming from people that already live there and just want to find out what's going on.  They may or may not have a house to sell, but I suspect those searchers are in the minority.  Statistics are great but they're always subject to interpretation.

I don't mean to pee in your cornflakes, but this won't work in my area.  I would have to sign up for over 100 "communities" just to cover Herndon, Virginia.  And that doesn't include the other 10 or 12 towns within a 20-mile radius where I also do business.  

7:07pm • #226

(and that is the third time I've done that today, left a comment while logged in as someone else after helping them with something, sorry)

Glenda,

I have no problem agreeing to disagree. :-)

We used to generate a lot of leads in Northern Virginia (during the years 2003-2005) and many of them were generated by community level searches.

If you believe they have most likely selected their agent, then it doesn't make sense for you to market to them at that level, I agree. But if they haven't selected an agent and you forgo writing content to target them, then someone else will be their agent.

I included a screen shot of our google analytics for the last 30 days for one of the search terms in a community in your city of Herndon. Chantilly Highlands. This is just in the last 30 days......

I could pull up similar information for other communities in your area. This doesn't demonstrate that they do or don't have an agent of course, but I want them when they are closer to buying. Even if one of these folks doesn't have an agent, closing one deal, because I pay $19/month to sponsor Chantilly Highlands is worth it in my business. I saw homes in that area selling for $650,000........

One other thing to consider.........you don't have to sign up for 100 areas. In Herndon there are about 20 communities. If you sign up for one, you rotate through the other unclaimed communities. If you are the only one sponsoring in a city, you appear on every community page as the sponsor. So you could conceivable sponsor the most desirable area, then rotate through the other areas free of charge.

7:27pm • #228

The reason I am so passionate about this is because I know that targeting people at a hyper local level works. We have hundreds (if not thousands) of agents on ActiveRain who are having very good success doing this.

Let me try to approach it from a different perspective. Let's say you agree they are doing the searches, but you think they already have an agent. Then I would contend that this is something you could use as a tool to get more listings. If we know that folks get more specific the closer they get to buying, then it would make sense that this is a tool that would be useful for a listing agent. To be able to rank at the top of the search engines when someone is searching for a specific sub-division or community, it would be a great tool to have in your arsenal to be able to show sellers that you can get the best exposure for their listing to the people that are REALLY interested in buying a home like theirs.

 

7:31pm • #229
AUG
06
2010
308,536 Points 33 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Trying to get onboard for the webinar today, but the link on the email doesn't work.  Where do I find it???

11:45am • #230
AUG
09
2010
429,369 Points 57 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Whew that is a lot of comments to scroll through... I think the hyper localism is a great idea. It will no doubt give consumers looking specific area, insights as to what makes those communities unique- GREAT JOB GUYS!  Thanks!

7:20pm • #231
AUG
13
2010
Hit Router Attended Rain Camp

Where do you find the community page.  I want to sign up asap.

10:28am • #232
SEP
26
2010

I didn't see a problem with the change in format to charge for the rainmaker upgrade especially when it was specifically told that existing members would see no change. What I didn't expect was to lose the rainmaker badge, & the ability to post to localism. Here I have posted & didn't even realize it would only go to membership & not localism. & I have to say, your explanations for the difference between Localism & the new Community Page format is about as clear as mud. ((

6:04pm • #233
JAN
18
2011
292,388 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Yup, I had a little problem trying to figure out Community pages, so here is a little AR blog to help you  out

http://activerain.com/blogsview/2084170/activerain-community-page-how-and-where-

 

5:52pm • #234

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