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Overpriced Homes-Sell Slower and For Less If there’s anything we can take away from the plethora of Bank Owned Foreclosures is they certainly know how to price a home to move!

I maintain that you almost always shoot yourself in the foot by overpricing your home. Your home will almost overpriced homesalways sale at or above market value by pricing at or below market value.

So why is that? Well think back at when YOU were buying a home. Remember when a “great deal” came on the market and everybody and their agents were “swarming” to the open house? You placed your offer only to find out their were 10 other offers and they were going above the asking price? This “bargain price” created an auction affect and got people excited. THAT is how banks are pricing their homes and if you want your home to move quickly and for the most amount of money, this is a winning strategy.

So why don’t sellers do it? I think it’s because there’s a little voice inside of our head (and pocketbook) that says “what if”.

“What if”- I can get $50K over market value. (even if someone were excited enough about your home to pay $50K over appraised value, their lender won’t loan the money if the value isn’t there. No loan, no buyer)

“What if”- I don’t get multiple offers and I only get one offer (May be still overpriced!)

Often fear (and greed) hold us back from making smart choices! Don’t feel bad though, even Real Estate Agents are guilty of senselessly overpricing their homes. Somehow when it’s our turn to sell all of our “market knowledge” becomes goo and leaks out of our ears! It’s like the hairdresser with bad hair!

The bottom line is, almost always, an Over Priced House will sit on the market longer and sell for less than it should have had it been priced strategically from the beginning.

 

Copyright © 2010 By Stephen Munson,Munson RealtyPasadena|Overpriced Homes-Sell Slower and For Less*overpriced homes,overpriced house

 

156 Comments on Overpriced Homes-Sell Slower and For Less

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2010
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Hi Stephen, nice "bottom line" and great post, thanks for sharing.

12:41am • #1
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The longer an over-priced home is on the market... the lower it's final selling price will be.  It is to bad that our inability to convince the sellers of that fact will end up costing them money.

12:49am • #2
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Stephen, so true, unless the sellers want to wait even longer with the hopes the market will go up, which is unlikely.  Great post, thanks,

12:58am • #3
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True True True! I love seeing a house that's been on the market 100+ days and the listing price hasn't changed :/  Makes me scratch my head about the home owner!

12:59am • #4
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Yea know it is so true and some sellers are very resistant to the truth.

2:18am • #5
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The higher the list price, the fewer times it will produce in an MLS search.  Sellers don't understand that by pricing $35K, $50K, etc. they reduce the buying pool.

6:33am • #6
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Stephen:

Often their rationale is tied to what they paid for it, the money they have put into it (new kitchen, etc.) and other issues that have nothing to do with what the home should actually sell for. Regardless of what was paid and what is owed - a home is going to sell for its current market value.

 

6:43am • #7
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Many short sales and foreclosures started out as overpriced listings. For the seller's own benefit, they must be realistic when pricing the home.

7:38am • #8
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Overpriced Listings sell other people's houses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:44am • #9
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Already re-blogged another post this morning, but this one's on my list for tomorrow!  Excellent for consumers, and I like your image.

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Stephen, This is so well written that I re blogged it! It is so true that many Sellers want to overprice their homes because they think that they might miss that one Buyer who would pay more for something than it is worth in any given market. Ironically ,if it is underpriced you CAN have a bidding war that drives the price up. If it is overpriced it becomes stale.

7:56am • #11
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Hello sunny CA.

You are telling it just like it is Stephen. Lenn also nails it in her comment.

8:25am • #12
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Right on the mark. I re-blogged this.

8:38am • #13
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Stephen, overpricing a property severely limits it exposure when it first comes on the market. Your strategy will often get more showings and offers. Thanks.

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The deals are in short sales and foreclosures in the Ann Arbor market area. There is a reason for that the price. No doubt the homes over priced don't sell or if they get an offer it will fall apart in the appraisal.

8:43am • #15
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Great post Stephen,

It is so true... buyers love the feeling that they are getting a bargain but when they realize their are in a competition, they open their wallets and up their offer.

8:55am • #16
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Could not be more true!  I love how no matter how much experience we have there are still those clients who know more than the Realtor...like they know something about the market that we don't!  Just smile and nod.  BTW...Love the comment by Michael J. Perry..."Overpriced listings sell other people's houses"...I will definitely be using that line in the future!

J A
9:49am • #18
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Well said - I think I might have to re-blog too it's so good!! Thank you for putting it out there so clearly! 

10:03am • #19
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Your last line is my mantra - it's never been truer than now.

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YEAH! Stephen- Congrats on your first GOLD STAR! And you have been reblogged 4 times today! WOW! I am very proud of you:) You go! Katerina

10:27am • #21
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This is the same conversation over and over with different results depending on whether the Seller chooses to grasp the concept. The next retort is that I need some room to negotiate with and then the next rotort  after that is that you need SOMEONE to negotate with and there is noone when it has no showings since it is in the wrong price category from the inception.

10:38am • #22
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Stephen, 

Well written.  It is so true that it's never been more of a waste of time to overprice a listing than today!  Buyers won't bother if they think it's too high and will never appraise, they just laugh at your overpriced home behind your back and say "NEXT!"

All the best, Michelle

11:01am • #23
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Great job Stephen.  Congrats on the feature.

11:40am • #24
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It's all about the Fear of Loss of potential profit and because they (sellers) focus on that Fear, they get it in abundance! Which is unfortunate because I really want to see my sellers happy and walk away with all they can get. This is a pretty natural human instinct, although counter productive!

Thanks for all of your replies!

 

11:42am • #25
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Great post, Stephen. It can be a tough thing to tell a seller, but I agree with Lenn on all points.

They're only hurting their own cause by over pricing their home.

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I have seen this syndrome somewhere here in Colorado, it works when realtors we list homes below the FMV and you get multiple offers the result is that you get more than the listing price. great blog

 

11:33pm • #28
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Steven:

As Realtors it can initially make you a little less than popular when you tell people the truth by showing them what comps have been selling for and why. Think of the initial shock if someone was to tell you $50,000. went missing from your bank account. Yet my belief is this is all part of the process when being a professional and helping people sell who really want or need to.

9:11am • #30

Amen! If we could just get every agent to refuse to take over-priced listings we would all win.

9:35am • #32
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Steven, one way I try and use is to explain to the sellers that even IF we could find a buyer for a price above what the home is truly worth, the appraiser would not be able to find three similar homes that have sold in the area... to use on his appraisal.  Once that comes home to them, they are much more likely to listen to reason.

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Execellent post. Thank you for presenting the facts concisely.  This has worked for me and my clients as well.  The most frustrating point for a Realtor is when your seller will not believe you and insists on taking the over-priced road instead of the fast-track.

10:09am • #34
Great Post! It is hard for the seller to see the logic in it when they are so focused on other things.
Chris Pagano
10:18am • #35
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Dead On Stephen!  But as we all know the seller's receive all this quality information via the TV every night.  There are the hucksters selling products to show the homeowner how to do it themselves and make a zillion dollars.  And then there is HGTV and the myriad of programs like them.  Consumers are being convinced that they already know it all.  It's a powerful battle out there to show the consumer the truth.  And then, there are those among us who harbor the erroneous belief that any listing is better than no listing..... which every day is proven to be a false belief.  We have to start in our own ranks and teach the new people coming in not to take overpriced listing and to become good teachers of fact.  Refuse to take overpriced listings.  Your life will be a lot less stressful when you don't.

10:27am • #36
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It has been the norm for many years in Palo Alto to underprice a home and get multiple offers. If that does not happen buyers wonder what is wrong with the home.

10:30am • #37

It is all in the Market at the time of the sale as you described. That's why sellers need good realistic CMAs. I like how you put this Blog together you deserve all the great comments!

10:31am • #38

Hi Stephen,

I totally agree with you, and what gets me is that it is so simple. If all sellers and seller agents would stop over pricing I think we might come out of this market cave in a lot sooner.

I have a colleague here who has been trying to sell his property for what seems like years. He puts it on the market at an uninformed price, and when it doesn't sell he takes it off for a while. Now it's back on the market and every week he reduces the price 1.48% with the result that nothing happens.

It is funny how we can get caught up in the thousands of 'fears' we are all susceptible to and the 'what if's' lead to the 'would have, should have, could have's'.

Peter Fyler (SplitRock Real Estate, LLC)
10:35am • #39

Great Post!!! Sellers hire a Realtor because we are professionals. Why do they NOT listen when we provide them with FACTS!!!

Erika Rogers
10:37am • #40
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Great point! No buyer is going to buy a house overvalued.

10:38am • #41

My mantra exactly!  I ask sellers to step into the buyers shoes.  If they were buying a home, would they want to spend more money or less?  Why would they expect other buyers to be any different?  If they are serious, most sellers get it.  Great post, Stephen!  Keep them coming...

10:40am • #42

Good Post and so True!

Margaret Fallon
10:40am • #43

Right on the money Stephen, could not have said it better myself!

Chris Shoemaker
10:41am • #44

Stephen: Great post and how appropriate to address on my listing appointment this afternoon. Thisseller's property had its value decreased over 40K in the last year!! So I have my comps ready and all other ammunition to support my suggested price point. Guess what: I am also taking a copy of your post with me!! Thank you!!!!

Ana Ramiscal
10:43am • #45

Great post, just dealt with this yesterday, even with comps the sellers wouldn't move on price, so their home shall sit another year possibly.

10:45am • #46

True, true, true.  Exactly why I love the online bidding process.  Set the opening bid low and let the market determine the price.  This does 2 things.

1)  It gets the property noticed and buyers inside

2)  It gets the seller an offer based on what buyers are willing to pay.

10:47am • #47
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Wonderful post!  I always tell my sellers that overpricing their house might completely eliminate the probable buyer of their house.  If the market value of their house is $200,000 and the seller insists on pricing it at $250,000, this home will probably not even show up in the likely buyer's MLS search.  

A good analogy is the stock market.  When a stockholder's value drops, he/she doesn't INSIST that he get back what he paid for the stock when it sells.  He has to take the market value!  Same with a home seller who wants to sell his house!

10:48am • #48

I like the clear and succinct way you stated this. It's obvious to anyone who's sold homes for any length of time, but they way you said it is the way I'd want to present it to clients.

Thanks!

Rob

10:53am • #50
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I love the little "What if" voice! That is so true. Sellers don't realize that their attempt to find someone willing to overpay by $25k will cost them $35k in the end.

10:55am • #51
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And still, they do not listen.  Great job & congrats on the Feature.

10:56am • #52

Great post Mr Munson!  I couldn't agree more.  I've been trying, mostly without a lot of success, to get my sellers to price their homes a bit under market to encourage the "feeding frenzy" and generate multiple offers.  Most are too chicken to do it!

Bruce G. Hammond
10:59am • #53
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If real estate agents didn't succumb to taking orders of over priced listings, this challenge would go away, wouldn't it? Matt, #32 comment says it all.

Comments from the pros regarding the negative consequences of over priced listings is directed to the seller, yet it's the order taker that should understand the consequences of listing an over priced home.

What does reducing the listing price $30k or more in a matter of weeks indicate about you as a professional? Would buyers jump to see the home because the price was reduced or would they wait until the price was reduced again and again? I characterize agents who list over priced homes as PINO's, (professionals in name only) and avoid them altogether.  

Hopefully, PINO's will read your post and discontinue listing over priced homes just to get a listing.

11:01am • #54

Well said... and the statistics show exactly the  same thing. Unfortunately, no matter what you tell folks or show them (all the numbers in the world, etc.), you just can't convince some folks  to get realistic. If it isn't at least within the reach of  reason, it's just not  worth it  to even take the listing.

11:03am • #55
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Totally agree. Really helpful on the listing presentation to show comps of recently sold homes with low DOM. Most, if not all, of these properties were priced to sell in today's market and got contracts while others rotted on the vine. .

11:04am • #56

Great post and comments. All I can add is that hubris may be the biggest culprit. We've all known sellers who think their home is worth that extra $25K, even though it has nothing more going for it than the most recent sales comps in their subdivision. And we have agents who sell themselves as miracle workers who can get than extra phantom $25K. Put them together...

11:14am • #57
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Banks do not have Emotional Ties to the homes they are selling...

11:24am • #58

Isn't this so true!   But try to get your seller to agree!

11:27am • #59

It still amazes me after 11 years in this business that some sellers still go against the advice of their Realtor (who should be their trusted advisor), and price their homes above market value. Why contract with us at all if you think you know more than we do.

Ron Minnifield
11:28am • #60

Great post.  Thanks for sharing!  If only it were that easy.........

Kathleen

11:29am • #61
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Piggybacking on #58, houses are scrap metal to banks (there was a post this week with that in the title, very clever). We call it chasing the market down when Sellers want to overprice and not be realistic about reducing the price after no showings.

11:30am • #62
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Those in the know - know but some folks don't want to listen.

11:32am • #63
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Absolutely on the mark, Stephen; even if you get a buyer that is willing to pay $X if the property doesn't appraise out there is no loan and no deal.

11:34am • #64
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Well said and always a timely reminder to price your property right. A "highest and best" competitive situation is almost always going top get a better selling price than chasing the market down.

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You are spot on, Stephen!  In this buyer's market it's all about pricing your listings well.  Location, location, location is out!  The new mantra is price, price, price!  And Matt, so true.  Why oh why are there agents out there still "buying" listings?  They are doing their clients a real disservice.  

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One of the biggest mistakes a seller can make is overpricing a home. Correct pricing right out of the gate is critical to maximizing profits. Great post!

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Stephen I think your blog is right on the money! I liked it so much I re-blogged it and added that along with price, staging a property is also a major factor. My staged properties in Bethesda and Potomac MD and Washington D.C. are selling like hot cakes.

11:38am • #68

So, so true.

Michael #17 story is perfect example!

Thanks to you both.

George Walsh
11:48am • #69

Stephen great post!

Even if it's cash buy and lender is not involved in the decision, buyers get the appraisal done in this market. So any which way you look at it, overpriced home is not going to get sold. On the contrary, overpriced homes help sell faster the other homes in that neighborhood which are priced right.

11:55am • #70
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Could not agree with you more, however, many seem to take them

11:56am • #71

Stephen, You make good points on pricing. In my "Pricing Your Home to Sell" video I add charts and graphs to emphasize them.

I've set it up for online delivery and I'll give you four free views. Go to www.RECVdk.com and enter promo code: "rain" Let me know what you think. David

11:57am • #72
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This is so true. Unfortunately everyone thinks their home is the exception!

11:59am • #73

Wow thanks for telling me overpriced homes don't sell quickly.  Right up there with don't drink poison.

11:59am • #74
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Stephen...I totally agree and I believe you are RIGHT ON. 

12:03pm • #75
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Great article Stephen.  This is especially true in the recent market with values declining.

12:13pm • #76

Great comments!  I was just called by a seller to go list thier over priced house tomorrow.  I thank you all for your comments.  It was never so true as it is in this market.  With banks and short sales as their competition, the sellers HAVE to be realistic on pricing or the houses just won't sell.

Kim Carlson
12:24pm • #77

Great comments!  I was just called by a seller to go list thier over priced house tomorrow.  I thank you all for your comments.  It was never so true as it is in this market.  With banks and short sales as their competition, the sellers HAVE to be realistic on pricing or the houses just won't sell.

Kim Carlson
12:24pm • #78
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Very good and right to the point.  Well said and I will reblog it for my clients.

12:40pm • #79
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Great post!  Fear definitely prevents some sellers from trusting the agent's expertise in the market.  I tell my sellers that I would rather have multiple offers for them to turn down than no offers to consider at all.

12:43pm • #80
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I know I have a lot to learn, and I feel inadequate when it comes to pricing a home. i understand all the mechanics of how to do a CMA and setting a price that should work for the market, but it just seems the appraisal price is subject to arbitrary opinion in many instances also. They calculate the depreciation do the adjustments and still not always in line with the CMA. Out of state vs local appraisers can add goo to the mix also with standards being different. I feel like I need to do an apprenticeship too! It's a wonder we ever get it right!

12:44pm • #81

It's always helpful when I can share with clients another voice giving the same advice. Thanks! A hook that's too far above the water won't get any bites!

Mynor Herrera
12:45pm • #82
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Very well said and written Stephen. You are spot on. If I may add, staging the home will help it to stand out amongst the competition and sell it faster. Priced-right staged homes sell first. Since people sometimes equate a low price to "there must be something wrong with it", staging will high-light and showcase the home which will reinforce to buyers that they have found a great deal and that can lead to multiple offers and the price the seller really wants to get.

12:46pm • #83

Stephen,

I absolutely agree! Too many clients want to stretch the limit in todays market. Then they miss that first week of heightened interest for a new listing. After several weeks, the property falls into the mainstream of listings and then they decide to "slowly" come down on their price. When the seller finally gets to where the market value should have been a month has gone by and there just aren't as many showings or lookers anymore. So, I agree, price that puppy where it should be from the beginning!

Janis Calkins
12:56pm • #84

Great post.  We need to make sure and educate sellers as to why we are setting a price range and where their home needs to be priced.

12:56pm • #85

Buyers want a deal and sellers are sometimes too proud of their homes. No equity means a short sale and enough equity means a possible good listing with dealing with the banks. We all want a motivated seller not a homeowner that is unrealistic. What makes a seller motivated? Thats the question you need to answer and find that person with strategic data nurturing...

Ron Aguilar
12:58pm • #86
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From your mouth to your sellers ears.

And everyone else's sellers too!

1:02pm • #87
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Hi Stephen, sometimes it's a tough pill for sellers to swallow but it works!  Thanks. 

1:08pm • #88
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Stephen:

What a true post. Sellers are not happy with hearing this but what is their alternative? Have a great weekend, thanks so much.

Lisa aka @allstarmom3

1:20pm • #89
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Stephen,

Sellers are so attached to their homes and improvements, so its hard for them to understand that the market is not exactly where they want it to be. Great post

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As a Stager, I work mainly with a core group of about 15 Realtors, and then occasionally with a handful of others. Without fail Realtors who are 'strong' and provide leadership to their clients get more traffic, get more offers and get the sale closed quicker, and with the first buyer.

I worked on straigh commission for about 25 years, so I get that part of the equation. It can be the pits, having to be the bad cop or walking away from something you're already invested in, but I have seen nothing good come from overpricing listings...sellers can be like a kid with a loose tooth-can't stop wiggling it/focusing on the pain and drama, but can't just pull it and get on with things, either. Pain deferred does not become less painful.

Strong and confident Realtors-you go!! (and call me, if you need a Stager!!)

 

1:30pm • #91
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Stephen.. I've been saying this all along.  Glad to see there are other Realtors that are aware of this too.  Now if we can get the sellers to realize that we DO have their best interest in mind, we'll have it made.

As I mention to my clients "I can't sell a home (for example) at $650,000 and it needs to be at $625,000 to sell.  If I COULD sell it for that price I would, I would make more money this way.  So why would I want to sell it for less unless it NEEDS to be there?

1:32pm • #92

Soooo very true.

michael #17 's story is perfect.

 

thank you both for sharing.

1:44pm • #94

You speak words of truth.  No matter how often that is explained to customers, it is very rarely heard.  My last customer that understood this sold in 11 days.  My other customer that did nothad their home sitting on the market for over a year!

Karen Seeman
1:48pm • #95

A major reason for the home owners not to agree with the sales agent recommended list price is the fact that their mortgage combined with the selling cost is higher than that recommended list price, and they do not have the funds to cover the difference.

They know that they are asking for a miracle, but are not able to accept a lower list price.

At that moment it is up to the agent to walk away ,what very few will do, especially if the difference is only a few percent. Their hope is that some way the sellers situation changes.

In reality the sales agent often ends up with a reduced commission to make a deal happen, by paying for repairs, home warrantee, etc.

i personally do not have a problem with that ,but I am sure many brokers do not accept that.

everard
1:51pm • #96
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Well said, Stephen.  Sometimes taking my sellers to their competition helps as well.  But there still are those people out their who truly believe they can buy at the bottom at the same time someone else will buy their home beyond top dollar.  Those are the tough ones to deal with.

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As a professional home stager, I often see homesellers that want to overprice their home after staging. I always say "home staging is not an excuse to over price your home". You are absolutely correct: a competitively priced home will sell for what it is worth, but an overpriced home will sit longer unsold and probably sell for less than it would have had it been priced correctly.

2:11pm • #98
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Things have certainly changed with regard to bank owned homes.

Ten years ago or so when I was listing the Fannie Mae properties in our town, they ALWAYS insisted on pricing $10,000 over the BPO. Then every couple of months they'd lower the price.

I remember one manufactured home in particular - I recommended a price of $74,900. They listed at $85,000. An offer came in right away at $75,000 and they rejected it. After many, many months on the market, the place sold for $65,000.

So dumb.

2:13pm • #99

Dear Stephen:

You are right about the stratigy of pricing low, but how do you value a home that is in perfect condition with a bank owned that is in terrrible condition.  If the two are next to each other and you are listing both, and all else is the same except condition, what price do you put on great condition? 

Is it worth 10, 20, 30 percent more?  Give me some tips on how to do a realistic CMA between these two homes.  Thank you.

 

Your Fellow Realtor:

Elizabeth Lockwood

 

Elizabeth Lockwood
2:33pm • #100

We've turned down seller's because they have wanted to overprice their home and then we just sit back and watch.  They get fewer showings and everyone is right; in the end the home sells for less than it should have sold for.  GREAT ARTICLE BY THE WAY.

 

Annette Murphy

Keller Williams Realty Professional Partners

Annette Murphy
3:03pm • #101

Absolutely on target.  In this kind of market, an overpriced property will end up selling for a lot less, as the seller ends up chasing the price down as the market proceeds down, sometimes never catching it.  Those stubborn to list a home at the right number will certainly end up with far less than they might have if priced right to begin with, not to mention the greater time it takes and how that stress plays out for the seller.  Lives are put on hold for far too long. 

Michele Harrison
3:05pm • #102

Oh, so true so true, Thank you for the great post.

Brenda Singletary (The Housing Connection)
3:08pm • #103
Sooo true! Just got one of these! Hope I can sway potential clients to think our way and not the "what if" way!
Jessica Myers
3:12pm • #104

Stephen: Your comments are right on!  I recently had a listing that was overpriced and the owner refused for four months to lower the price.  Because the property was not FHA approved, she even tried to convince me to RAISE the price, to attract a different type of buyer who could afford a larger down-payment and probably would not want something in that lower price range!  When the listing expired, the owner decided that it would look better on the MLS if it appeared to be a newly listed property, so she went with another realtor - at $25,000 less!!!!!  I realize, in hind-sight that it would have been better to insist, in the first place, on a lower price ... or I should have refused to list the property.  I was hungry for the listing and thought it was good for my reputation to take it, even if it wasn't priced right, hoping the owner would reduce the price after a short time.  I think it was worse for my reputation to list a property that had no offers - and to eventually lose it to another realtor. 

Deb Ross
3:33pm • #105

Great post as this is always a simple, but difficult scenario to explain to a seller. I sold my home about a year ago in about 5 weeks and for only $2,000 less than listed price. I always use my own example when discussing price with a seller.

3:38pm • #106
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Well, this post was very appropriate for me now.....I have a seller whose property has been on the market 90 days after 37 showings and 3 offers in the range where my CMA came out, finally lowered the price but not enough and now we are what I call STALE on the market. Seller is an engineer from China and is smarter than any Realtor. Sigh! Will I never learn after 30 years? I think the line that "You are in a pricing war and a beauty contest" is a good line, but some sellers are just stubborn.

3:59pm • #107

This is one of those "If I had a nickel for every time I've said this....." posts.  Even though we say it all the time, it can still be very difficult to convince the seller how true it is until it's too late......  Although some will listen, I do have a seller right now who didn't listen and is now 'paying the price' literally for it.  Even though it was just slightly above where I wanted it to be, the result was the same.  Hindsight is always 20/20!!

4:06pm • #108
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Stephen,

You speak the truth and with great examples too!  Yet there will be those sellers who will think that "white man speak with forked tongue".  Great post!

4:30pm • #109

Great post! Thanks for making it available for re-blogging!

4:36pm • #110
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It is like chasing a declining curve when you over price a property. Correct adjustments need to be made right away so you are ahead of the curve and not chasing it.  Joy

5:11pm • #113
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Great post and so many good comments.

 

Thank you for sharing!!

 

I wish the today's Sellers were a little more practical... but they will learn soon after there are no showings on their home.

5:46pm • #114

You are absolutely correct.  Over priced homes sell every other correctly priced home.  We see it constantly, over priced homes sit and sit.  What is wrong???????with your house.  It comes down to the three C's.  If it is the right Cost, the right condition, and is void of clutter it will sell and will probably get multiple offers.  If it sits for 21 to 30 days and no offers come in, something is wrong???? Find it and correct it.  If the seller doesn't believe you, then don't just keep it there  till it goes into the pricing "spiral of death".  If you know it is over priced by what is selling, then convince them or "fire" them.  They won't like you if it doesn't sell and you won't like them if it doesn't sell.  You are the professional, act like it.  If it is priced more than 5% over market then it comes down or we walk and part friends before it gets ugly.  They still won't like you if it sells for a very reduced price down the road.  You are a professional running a buainess, and this is a business not a social club or net work.

Ric Mills
6:24pm • #115
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I just finished inspecting house in this situation! Market value $900,000.00, seller wants 1.2 million!

6:27pm • #116

I wish more Realtors would practice what you preach, but if my neighborhood is anything to judge by, that's just not the case. So many seriously over priced homes just sit and sit for months, sometimes years (one on my street sat on the market for 4 years before it finally sold).  It's frustrating to watch.

6:52pm • #117
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As it always has been...the good deal attracts many buyers.

In the stock market the saying is: The bulls and bears make money and the Hogs (pigs) get slaughtered.

Be a bull or bear but don't let your home get slaughtered.

The phrase:  OPT didn't come from nowhere, now, did it?  Over Priced Turkey!

8:45pm • #118

Competition for a Buyer is fierce right now.  Price is key!

8:53pm • #119
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More than once I've done a great listing presentation, gotten the seller to agree he wants me to market his home, and then stalled over getting the price set right. You'd be amazed what happens when you quietly close your folder and start to put it in your bag/briefcase, and say, "if I list your property where you want me to, agents showing your house will be using your home to sell your competition. I'm sorry, I just can't commit my company's resources and my time to your home if you really don't want to sell it at current market value."  As soon as I'm ready to walk from the table, it's amazing how quickly they are ready to price it at market...

9:34pm • #120
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And in today's market, sitting "longer" could be for years!

Aloha!

9:56pm • #121
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2010

How true. Even if a buyer is willing to pay more, the bank won't lend more than the house is actually worth, so the true price wins in the end. When I purchased my home 10 years ago, it appraised for $12K less than I offered, so the seller had to take the lower price, which turned into a nice "discount" for me! Sellers still aren't getting that the current real estate market is not the market of a few years ago--they have to set their price based on current conditions, not the past or a future that we may not see for years.

Bottom line: price right from the start, and the home will sell. (A little staging doesn't hurt, either!)

 

7:49am • #122
What is your best 2 or 3 sentence script to close a seller when they are asking too much for their home ( besides agreeing in writing to price reductions ahead of time or walking away freon the listing )
Dan Elam
8:22am • #123
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Stephen,

Say it isn't so! I loved reading your blog and there's no doubt in my mind that once I finish my work in short sale listings, I'll be once again faced with sellers who think their home is worth so much more than their neighbors because they installed a beautiful new sink in the guest bath.

As I've blogged before, I still come armed with an addendum to each listing presentation that allows for a price reduction in the event that the seller remains stubborn and committed to over pricing his listing. I give it 2 weeks and then we reduce by a certain amount in an effort to remain viable in the Realtor's eye.

Thanks for the great blog!

9:29am • #124

This long know fact has escaped sellers many times. Thanks for the reenforcement. Now that we have two markets, Fairmarket and foreclosure market it is most important to educate sellers.

Ruth Venezia
10:53am • #125

I agree 100%... the challenge is getting the seller to a reality checkpoint.  In my experience, they can see it in their neighbors house, but theirs (home) is "different, better" etc. 

Good post

HRay

Homer Ray
11:16am • #126
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Stephan, great post and so well put.  Definitely worthy of a reblog.  If only we could get our sellers to be realistic instead of thinking themsleves to be the exception to the rule.   It would make our jobs a lot easier and definitely more lucrative.

1:48pm • #127

A timely post. Thank you for your words, they are reinforcing my thoughts exactly! It is so important to educate your sellers from the beginning but often hard to get them over that emotional hump about their home's value compared to the current market activity sometimes. It is a good idea to have the price reduction paperwork done right at the beginning in case it is needed... Less game playing later when you are trying to get the reduction. 

Great post! Thank you.

Rhonda Tryon Windermere Exclusive Properties, Escondido
2:10pm • #128

I often see this happen. I am a real estate stager and no matter how great a house looks if it is over priced it will sit on the market. The homeowners are always dismayed even though they have been thoroughly advised by their professional Realtor.

It takes all three things to quickly sell a home. 1. price 2. presentation 3. location

However the #1 item, price, can offset #2 and/or #3. Even with a through explanation to homeowners it still is a huge stumbling block. Emotional response and unrealistic expectations thwart all best intentions.

Kerry Roth
3:09pm • #129
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Stephan - so true. I have had over priced listings, and they do sit with very little action!

4:07pm • #130
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So true. I have so many people tell me this is what I need. x$ to pay of the house and x$ to pay of other bills and x$ to profit. They do not understand nobody cares what they need to get for the house. They just care what they can buy it for. If a similar house is selling for $20,000 less it is the one that sells.

Great post. I rebloged.

7:03pm • #131
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Stephen- and now your post has been reblogged by 42 agents! Very viral indeed! That is great for a newbie! And so proud of one of my best students:) hugs! 

7:16pm • #132
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The 2 agents in my office and I just discussed this same topic last month - your blog conveyed it perfectly. Great job, Stephen!

9:45am • #133
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Hi Stephen- Bank properties are listed in "As Is" condition, this means that the BPO asked for "Cost to Cure" i.e. Repairs Cost and they took that Repair Cost OFF OF THE "AS REPAIRED" value.  Therefore, a non-reo, Good Condition home will be priced higher than the shabby REO property.

The Non-REO Listings are in competition for the few buyers and they are competing with Short Sales and REO's because this is what is driving the market. To over price a house, even if they "get their price" will be squashed at appraisal time. So the choice is to look for Cash Buyers Only who don't mind paying more than a property is worth. This is not realistic, our Buyers and Buyer's Agents are too sophisticated and informed to fall for this.

The market and its values...are what they are.

12:08pm • #134

I am always astonished at how many home owners determine the value of their home based on how much money they want rather than what the CMA shows it should be priced at.  The last listing call I went out on, the seller decided he needed $205,000 to pay off his mortgage and his new truck.  The CAM shows the property should be priced at a max of $179,000, but seller will still blame the real estate agent if their property fails to sell. 

Steve
12:10pm • #135
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That's why i suggest to my seller that if we don't get an offer within 30 days, they should realize that it isn't going to magically sell and we have to re-visit the price. We let the market dictate the price, not the seller, and if they have been warned of this up front it's easier to get them to see this.

12:34pm • #136
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Stephen,

Great post and so true. Pricing right is key to a successful close and happy sellers and buyers!

1:10pm • #137
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Well priced and in great condition - this is what's selling in this market. My first BIC (and mentor) said, "Sometimes it's  best to be the second listing agent... ." So true.

Am getting ready to re-blog right now!

1:47pm • #138
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HA!  I don't know what the record is or average, but this post has a very large number of re-bloggs.

1:56pm • #139
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I haven't used that reasoning with a seller, but have thought about it (pricing lower to get multiple offers).  Starting high and coming down sure doesn't work!

3:24pm • #140

I tell my agents to walk away from overpriced listings unless there is an assurance (i.e. pre dated price reductions completed at time of listing) that the seller is motivated to get their home sold. Better to let the competition list it --spend thier $$ on advertising--deal with the frustrated seller (and we all know it is the agent who gets the complaints from the seller regarding why the property is not selling) and having the competitions' sign up that shows what they can't do, SELL THE HOUSE. Then when the listing expires, and the seller is willing to discuss the REAL price based upon the market, then list it. We need to decrease our inventory not grow it with unsaleable listings.

Connie Hinsdale
7:27pm • #141

Great Blog! I hate to be redundant but SO TRUE!

9:54pm • #142

You are correct basic economics of supply and demand, high inventory low price, even if the inventory drops I don't see banks leading the money like they did.

Liz Jones
10:14pm • #143
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Great post, I totally agree. I just wrote something similar my self a few days ago!

10:46pm • #144
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2010
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Stephen, you are right on!  Price is everything in this market! The home must shine & be price AHEAD of the market... Great post!

9:49am • #145
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Bottom line is the Affordability Index. As long as you're living in an area where only one out of four employed people can afford to buy a home they are over priced for that average Joe. In my area it's going to be a long time before homes will be affordable if ever. Geographic and climatic desireability drives prices up. Wealthy folks like to live in nice areas and will pay the price driving the affordability index even further off the charts for the average wage earner. It's a vicious circle in this area. I don't see prices going down inasmuch as they have actually gone up in the San Diego area this year whence many other areas of the USA are still in somewhat of a tailspin. Hope that makes some sense.

11:44am • #146

Amen! I see that going on in my area in Northern NJ all the time; everyone seems to price $25-50,000 over what the house eventually sells for because they bought high and are losing money on the sale to begin with. But "wishing won't make it so." I agree it's much better to price at a very reasonable level and drum up the excitement and visitors that way. I never understand why sellers are willing to deal with months of keeping their homes ultra-clean (hopefully!) and the inconvenience and uncertainty of multiple showings and few or no offers because their homes are priced too high . . . as a stager, I don't get involved with pricing, of course, but it can be hard to stage homes that are considerably over-priced. I always tell owners their agent knows the market and that it IS a very slow market in our area.

Amy Bly
10:48pm • #147

Amen! I see that going on in my area in Northern NJ all the time; everyone seems to price $25-50,000 over what the house eventually sells for because they bought high and are losing money on the sale to begin with. But "wishing won't make it so." I agree it's much better to price at a very reasonable level and drum up the excitement and visitors that way. I never understand why sellers are willing to deal with months of keeping their homes ultra-clean (hopefully!) and the inconvenience and uncertainty of multiple showings and few or no offers because their homes are priced too high . . . as a stager, I don't get involved with pricing, of course, but it can be hard to stage homes that are considerably over-priced. I always tell owners their agent knows the market and that it IS a very slow market in our area.

Amy Bly
10:48pm • #148
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2010

Great post. My wish is that real estate agents would just refuse to take overpriced listings. This much easier said than done as we work through this current market. Real Estate professionals do not make the market... they sell the market.

10:27am • #149
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Thanks everyone for all the responses! Unfortunately I've been sick and have only had energy to deal with my wonderful clients.! I appreciate that most of us are on the same page with pricing!

Thanks, Thanks and Triple Thanks!

 

Pasadena Homes For Sale

11:21am • #150
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I experienced this personally when we sold our home a few years ago. Our Realtor suggested a price that we thought was scary low.  We KNEW that she was a hard working, successful agent.. BUT... REALLY ???.. THAT LOW???  .. We were reluctant of course, but we agreed... The house went on the market at $459,000 and sold nine days later ( with nine offers) for $750,000

I BELIEVE in this strategy,,, But at the same time, if you only get one good offer and it's for the asking price,, you need to be prepared for that too!.. Especially in this market..

12:16pm • #151
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Hi Anne, Thanks for the "Sellers Viewpoint"! Glad you raised your hand! :)

4:02pm • #152
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12
2010
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I agree. I have noticed another unsettling practice from agents (one in particular is from a sales director she is just a manager who competes with her agents from a franchise) and she is underpricing.  That hasn't generated offers that are warranted for the property.  Unfortunately, it has generated an acceptable offer which is lowering the property values in this affluent area of the North Shore.  That is not representating the seller-client nor in their best interest. That is only self serving her personal interests.    

 
3:26am • #153

This is so true.  It is such a challenge to get homeowners to understand this strategy.  If I have clients who want the "what if"  strategy I will take them to preview a few other homes in the neighborhood so we can compare and price BELOW our competition.  Thanks for the great article!

11:15am • #154
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2010
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Excellent post!  Here in Atlanta, homes that are priced correctly sell in 26 days (on average) and those that overprice end up taking almost 300 days to sell.... if they ever do sell.

12:53am • #155
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Thanks for a great post and very good information to share with our clients.

1:06am • #156
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2010
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Stephen are right on with this one.  Love, love, love the 'shoot yourself in the foot' analogy; it really gets your point across.

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